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    • FollyF
      Folly @AdamBeGood
      last edited by Folly

      @adambegood

      I had to work, thankfully no rain.

      It's good to update mame.
      The binary is equal or higher than 0237.

      But I think it's something else.
      Do other games run ?
      Does lr-mess work ? (or is it the same story ?)

      Check your runcommand.log.

      Btw:
      Autoframeskipping doesn't work that good over here.
      With F9 you have to press until it's on frameskip 10 to get almost fullspeed.

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        AdamBeGood @Folly
        last edited by AdamBeGood

        @folly Let me have a play and report back. I'll have a look at the log.

        Other games do work on MAME for FM Towns. lr-mess is the same story.

        Edit: is this the island postie job? Glad you didn't get rained on.

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        • FollyF
          Folly @AdamBeGood
          last edited by

          @adambegood said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

          @folly Let me have a play and report back. I'll have a look at the log.

          Yes you should check that.

          Other games do work on MAME for FM Towns. lr-mess is the same story.

          Strange !
          If this works than it looks like the files of Mad Stalker are wrong somehow.
          I tested the version I recommended, unzipped and running the .cue should work.

          Edit: is this the island postie job? Glad you didn't get rained on.

          Not today, but I still do that, often, twice a week.

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            AdamBeGood @Folly
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            @folly It was the version of MAME. Updated from Source and the game works fine! Thanks so much for all the help.

            I was very surprised when it loaded up!

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            • FollyF
              Folly @AdamBeGood
              last edited by Folly

              @adambegood

              Nice,

              Now we have to play, after all the effort involving ;-)
              Let me know how it goes.

              With mame we can (we can pause first with P) :

              • save states with : shift-left + F7
              • load states with : shift-right + F7

              Can you defeat this one, in stage 1 ? :

              Screenshot_20211205_122911.png

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                AdamBeGood @Folly
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                @folly I didn't have time to properly play but I'll let you know when I get a chance to play - probably tomorrow. It seems quite hard from a quick play!

                Thanks for the save state help also!

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                  AdamBeGood @AdamBeGood
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                  @Folly - on a totally distinct issue, a bit off-topic I'll admit; I've got a Sinden Light Gun now and thought about getting it to work with Saturn tonight (I've got NES, SNES and Dreamcast working so far).

                  However, I need to try it on a libretro core and for some weird reason my Saturn games are all launching straight to Yabasanshiro regardless of how I have them set up in emulators.cfg. Some games are set to other cores, but it doesn't make a difference - I get no runcommand menu and Yabasanshiro just boots straight up.

                  Any idea where I look to resolve this? I don't remember changing anything here...

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                    Zering @AdamBeGood
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                    @adambegood That's because standalone yabasanshiro doesn't use runcommand. You would have changed that in your es_systems.cfg when setting up yabasanshiro.

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                      AdamBeGood @Zering
                      last edited by AdamBeGood

                      @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                      @adambegood That's because standalone yabasanshiro doesn't use runcommand. You would have changed that in your es_systems.cfg when setting up yabasanshiro.

                      Thanks, @zering. I guess I just hadn't noticed. Can I have yabasanshiro installed and still choose other emulators? Or do I have to take a line out of config every time to do that?

                      I didn't expect a response from you on this one!

                      Edit: Take that line out and put a normal runcommand line in and that seems all good now.

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                      • testudoT
                        testudo @Folly
                        last edited by

                        @folly said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                        @adambegood

                        Nice,

                        Now we have to play, after all the effort involving ;-)
                        Let me know how it goes.

                        With mame we can (we can pause first with P) :

                        • save states with : shift-left + F7
                        • load states with : shift-right + F7

                        Can you defeat this one, in stage 1 ? :

                        Screenshot_20211205_122911.png

                        Concur, brilliant detective work! I can only get it to boot using the lr-mess-fmtowns config, the other fmtowns and mame runcommand selections do not work. But, changing the Joystick port 2 to <nothing> removed the in game freezing and it plays great. I'll just manually change it back to <mouse> when done playing. No luck in my first attempt to defeat the stage 1 Boss.

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                          DTEAM @testudo
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                          @Folly
                          On FM Towns Marty, some games like Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge or 4D tennis require a CD ROM and a floppy disk.

                          Does somebody already managed that?

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                            AdamBeGood @DTEAM
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                            @dteam said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                            @Folly
                            On FM Towns Marty, some games like Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge or 4D tennis require a CD ROM and a floppy disk.

                            Does somebody already managed that?

                            I'd be surprised if Folly hasn't cracked that, I think it might have been discussed at some point.

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                            • FollyF
                              Folly @DTEAM
                              last edited by Folly

                              @dteam said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                              @Folly
                              On FM Towns Marty, some games like Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge or 4D tennis require a CD ROM and a floppy disk.

                              Does somebody already managed that?

                              I will have a look, it should be possible.

                              Edit :
                              Tested 4d tennis adding the user floppy in the GUI but the floppy file isn't accepted.
                              runcommand.log gives this error :
                              Fatal error: Device 3.5" high density floppy drive load failed: Unable to identify the image format

                              I will look at it later again.

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                              • FollyF
                                Folly @DTEAM
                                last edited by

                                @dteam

                                It looks like we both use NEOKOBE files for fmtowns.
                                I think that the user floppy files have an image structure that cannot be read by mame somehow.
                                I think we need to convert the floppy files or try to find ones that work with mame.

                                I was able to create an empty .hdm floppy image which is accepted but it seems it's not enough for "4D Tennis".

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                                  testudo @Folly
                                  last edited by

                                  @folly said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                  @dteam said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                  @Folly
                                  On FM Towns Marty, some games like Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge or 4D tennis require a CD ROM and a floppy disk.

                                  Does somebody already managed that?

                                  I will have a look, it should be possible.

                                  Edit :
                                  Tested 4d tennis adding the user floppy in the GUI but the floppy file isn't accepted.
                                  runcommand.log gives this error :
                                  Fatal error: Device 3.5" high density floppy drive load failed: Unable to identify the image format

                                  I will look at it later again.

                                  With FMTowns using lr-Mess, 4D Tennis will boot and be fully playable if you add a blank formatted disk in .hdm format with the GUI at the user disk prompt. The specific user disk file I had for 4D Tennis was .bin format and was not recognized.

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                                    Folly @testudo
                                    last edited by Folly

                                    @testudo

                                    Is it a 1.2Mb floppy .hdm image or a 1.44Mb ?

                                    I tried the same, as what you did, with mame with a 1.2Mb .hdm but that didn't seem to work.
                                    So perhaps I missing something here.

                                    I have to try it again.

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                                      testudo @Folly
                                      last edited by testudo

                                      @folly said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                      @testudo

                                      Is it a 1.2Mb floppy .hdm image or a 1.44Mb ?

                                      I tried the same, as what you did, with mame with a 1.2Mb .hdm but that didn't seem to work.
                                      So perhaps I missing something here.

                                      I have to try it again.

                                      I'm not sure how to check the file size in the FMTowns OS, but the "ROM" file size is 1,261,568 bytes, so I would guess it is a 1.2Mb. It is MS-DOS formatted if that is a clue: I used Repacked Neo Kobe [OS] Blank disk/

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                                      • FollyF
                                        Folly @testudo
                                        last edited by Folly

                                        @testudo @DTEAM

                                        It's an 1.2Mb floppy image.

                                        I used the same now for mame.
                                        But basically I had the same problem as the last time.

                                        Inserting the floppy image and select : read and write.
                                        After some time it will say : check user disk !

                                        I decided to select : read from image and save to another image.
                                        Then it asks what kind of image format, I selected : fmtowns unformatted and changed the name so it will create a new floppy.

                                        After that it was accepted and I could go playing.
                                        But the game seems stuck after selecting some play options.

                                        Did you manage to play ?

                                        Btw.
                                        Using the game specific load option has it's advantage.
                                        When selecting the floppy image next time it will show up the correct directory for selecting the image.

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                                        • testudoT
                                          testudo @Folly
                                          last edited by testudo

                                          @folly

                                          I only played the Practice session option for a few minutes and that worked fine. I will try the proper game/tournament option and report back.

                                          Unfortunately, I have been unable to get the MAME emulator options or MESS game specific emulator selection options to work. I have even tried making them the default in the emulator.config file and still no success.

                                          I created a User Disk folder in the Rom directory where I store all the different user disks and lr-mess seems to default to it when I use the GUI to add a floppy image. So adding the user disk image file is a fairly quick exercise.

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                                          • FollyF
                                            Folly @testudo
                                            last edited by Folly

                                            @testudo said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                            @folly

                                            I only played the Practice session option for a few minutes and that worked fine. I will try the proper game/tournament option and report back.

                                            Curious if it will works, on your side.

                                            Unfortunately, I have been unable to get the MAME emulator options or MESS game specific emulator selection options to work. I have even tried making them the default in the emulator.config file and still no success.

                                            I don't know what problem you have then.

                                            I created a User Disk folder in the Rom directory where I store all the different user disks and lr-mess seems to default to it when I use the GUI to add a floppy image. So adding the user disk image file is a fairly quick exercise.

                                            Nice solution.

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