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      twd Banned @suprjami
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      @suprjami I am sure that I read on the pi forums it has no affect ... It may show a diffrent setting but actually standard ... But as I read it there I took it as fact. Only game I had slowdown on is star fox but I have that anyway on cart. But yeah I am no expert

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        suprjami @twd
        last edited by suprjami

        @twd I just tested, it works.

        Fresh RetroPie image with no overclock config:

        $ vcgencmd get_config int | egrep "arm|core|gpu|sdram"
        arm_freq=1000
        core_freq=400
        gpu_freq=300
        sdram_freq=450
        

        Core speeds while running PiFBA to ramp the clock speeds up:

        $ for clock in arm core v3d isp h264; do echo -e "$clock:\t$(vcgencmd measure_clock $clock)"; done
        arm:	frequency(45)=1000000000
        core:	frequency(1)=400000000
        v3d:	frequency(43)=300000000
        isp:	frequency(42)=300000000
        h264:	frequency(28)=300000000
        

        Set some overclocks:

        $ egrep "^[^#].*freq" /boot/config.txt 
        gpu_freq=500
        core_freq=500
        sdram_freq=500
        

        Reboot and the config changes are applied:

        $ vcgencmd get_config int | egrep "arm|core|gpu|sdram"
        arm_freq=1000
        core_freq=500
        gpu_freq=500
        sdram_freq=500
        

        Running PiFBA again confirms it:

        $ for clock in arm core v3d isp h264; do echo -e "$clock:\t$(vcgencmd measure_clock $clock)"; done
        arm:	frequency(45)=1000104000
        core:	frequency(1)=500000000
        v3d:	frequency(43)=500000000
        isp:	frequency(42)=500000000
        h264:	frequency(28)=500000000
        

        In my experience, the difference in performance also demonstrates the overclock is working.

        Don't believe everything you read on the internet, not even my post above! Learn how things work and try it yourself :)

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          twd Banned
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          Not doing that ... As I took my info from the raspberry pi dev team . You will lose warranty too. But I have no reason to overclock as everything is working fine.... Thanks for posting the tib bits though sure thee applicable to the pi 1

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            suprjami @twd
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            @twd said:

            You will lose warranty too.

            Possibly. On the earlier models the warranty-void bit was only set when you put force_turbo=1 or current_limit_override=1. Anything less than that was considered a "safe" overclock.

            There's also what the retailer will exchange ("hey it just stopped booting i dunno what happened") and what the manufacturer eventually decides to offer wholesaler warranty on or not.

            Anyway, for an item that costs $5 or less, who cares? If it dies just turn it into a keychain and buy a new one.

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              twd Banned @suprjami
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              @suprjami

              I know what your saying but in the uk at least stock is low ...considering they make them 5 miles away . I am happy at stock setting.. Also new to linux so not comfortable with it don't help I have dyslexia :( . I have to sit with my iPad and pie running so I can look up code words.

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                suprjami @twd
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                @twd Well, take your time and have fun. The Zero can do a lot without overclocking :)

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                  twd Banned @suprjami
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                  @suprjami thanks mate , I am happy with the speed tbh , it just a novelty atm saves me using the real hardware as I hate using hdtv with them as a 80's kid I have to use a crt but there in storage atm having work done at my home. I will upgrade soon to a pi3 maybe to try psx emulation or just for street fighter 3rd strike

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                    SIrRandall @twd
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                    @twd said in What emulators can the pi zero run well?:

                    @SIrRandall runs in pifba actually ever rom worked from fba list.... If you search YouTube for simply Austin he gives out a fightcade pack ... I know that one works grab that

                    Thanks that works wonders.

                    @edmaul69 said in What emulators can the pi zero run well?:

                    @suprjami i used lr-fba-next for neo geo. runs good with no overclocking. I didnt add cps games or mame due to having a full 16gb card from home consoles.

                    I can't find lr-gba-next for pi zero even in the experimental(yes i updated everything.). How did you install it ? from source ?

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                      edmaul69 @SIrRandall
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                      @SIrRandall i said lr-fba-next. I dont even use lr-gba-next on my pi3 because it stuttered when i last tried using it. But if you need lr-gba-next or lr-fba-next try looking in main packages or optional packages if not in experimental.

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                        meleu @edmaul69
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                        @edmaul69 said in What emulators can the pi zero run well?:

                        @suprjami i used lr-fba-next for neo geo. runs good with no overclocking.

                        @edmaul69 are you sure that you use lr-fba-next on a Raspberry Pi Zero?!?!

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                          edmaul69 @meleu
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                          @meleu i will have to try to remember to double check. I could be wrong.

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                            edmaul69 @meleu
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                            @meleu i just checked. And yes i am running lr-fba-next on the pi zero.

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                              cyperghost @suprjami
                              last edited by cyperghost

                              @suprjami said in What emulators can the pi zero run well?:

                              $ vcgencmd get_config int | egrep "arm|core|gpu|sdram"
                              arm_freq=1000
                              core_freq=400
                              gpu_freq=300
                              sdram_freq=450
                              
                              
                              $ vcgencmd get_config int | egrep "arm|core|gpu|sdram"
                              arm_freq=1000
                              core_freq=500
                              gpu_freq=500
                              sdram_freq=500
                              

                              Thank you! This gives the Pi Zero the right push. NeoGeo Metal Slug runs smooth with analog sound with these settings. A good setup with moderate danger imho :)

                              Don't believe everything you read on the internet, not even my post above! Learn how things work and try it yourself :)

                              Knowledge is power!

                              PS: I stand in no relation to @suprjami :D

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                                suprjami @cyperghost
                                last edited by

                                @cyperghost said in What emulators can the pi zero run well?:

                                A good setup with moderate danger imho :)

                                I agree, I think just running the GPU and RAM slightly faster is pretty low-risk. The Zero seems to draw very little power and generate very little heat. They've really improved the production process.

                                Knowledge is power!
                                PS: I stand in no relation to @suprjami :D

                                I'm sure you know lots of things that I don't, whether they are about Raspberry Pi or other things in life.

                                So we all help each other out and everyone's knowledge improves :)

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                                  drake999 @suprjami
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                                  @suprjami This is an excellent post my friend. I was just reading through the general discussions and came across it. I may have use for this, thanks for getting it out there.

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                                    Dyleup @suprjami
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                                    @suprjami

                                    I am very interested in trying this, but I am very new to linux and the terminal. I seem to be stumbling on specific symbols such as | and " are not available through my USB keyboard directly connected to my Pi Zero.

                                    Is there any way I could update the Pi's config.txt file on the SD Card through the GUI on my ubuntu laptop?

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                                      meleu @Dyleup
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dyleup said in What emulators can the pi zero run well?:

                                      Is there any way I could update the Pi's config.txt file on the SD Card through the GUI on my ubuntu laptop?

                                      Sure. Plug the SD card on your ubuntu and it probably will automount two partitions: retropie and boot. The file you want to edit will probably be at /media/YOUR_USERNAME/boot/boot/config.txt. Just open the file with your favorite text editor and edit it as you want.

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                                        Exodus
                                        last edited by Exodus

                                        Hi! Newbie here.

                                        Reading this thread I now have a pretty fair curiosity about seeing whether Starfox can run at a speed in which music audio can at least keep up (it's about 3-4 bars behind the gameplay as far as I can tell). So I'm wondering whether a good heatsink could allow enough overclocking beyond what suprjami did to get performance to that level.

                                        Does anyone have good thermodynamics or heatsink knowledge to know what would be most effective in terms of fan shape and blade numbers for heat dispersion rate?

                                        I'm looking at something like these products to start:
                                        https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100013
                                        https://www.amazon.co.uk/Raspberry-Pi-compatible-Sinks-heatsinks/dp/B00FRMBSPW

                                        edit: I already tried suprjami's clock speeds and did not notice a really appreciable difference. Game is barely playable with some slowdowns and the music lags badly.

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