Daphne . Arcade joystick orientation wrong.

SaturnX

@bbrueck The ROM is playing as expected, Dragon's Lair and Space Ace don't actually have arrow overlays like Dragon's Lair II or other Laserdisc games. You need to look for the flashing yellow cues for which direction/action. So there's no options that'll give you arrow/action overlays.

Next, there are actually different versions of the ROM - the Dragon's Lair Enhancement 2.1 includes the drawbridge sequence. You're likely using another version. I believe the original arcade version didn't include the drawbridge scene but was included in various home versions.

You can read up more on the enhancements on the Dragon's Lair Project site: http://www.dragons-lair-project.com/tech/enhancements/dle.asp

Now the one other thing I'll add for Dragon's Lair and Space Ace is that you can (and should) enable the on-screen scoreboard, as both these cabs originally had external scoreboards.

Daphne uses a [rom].commands file to pass command line arguments to the emulator that can set various options and dip-switch settings (i.e. how many credits per play, number of lives, etc...)

It's highlighted in the RetroPie docs for Daphne:
https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Daphne/

These files are placed in the ROM folder:
/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/daphne/[rom].daphne/[rom].commands

where [rom] = dle21, lair, sae, lair2, etc...

for Dragon's Lair and Space Ace to enable the on-screen scoreboard, the .commands file needs to contain:

-useoverlaysb 1

You can further refine settings per game by setting dip-switch parameters with the bank options. These options are dependent on the ROM version used for a game.

For example, I use the following for Dragon's Lair (2.1) (rom: dle21)

dle21.commands:

-blank_searches -min_seek_delay 1000 -seek_frames_per_ms 20 -useoverlaysb 1 -bank 0 11011000 -bank 1 00110111 -sound_buffer 2048 -noissues -noserversend

A description of the command line parameters is available here:
http://www.daphne-emu.com/mediawiki/index.php/CmdLine

In terms of the dip-switch settings (i.e. bank 0 and bank 1) - this sets it up with 1 coin per credit, 5 lives per credit (instead of the default 3), and a few other options. These settings are ROM and game dependent. I use Daphne on my PC to set up the game parameters as I want them then transpose the command line options from Daphne on my PC into the .commands file for the respective game.

Glad to hear you're making progress and I hope the above helps. Let me know if you've got any questions.

Clyde

@saturnx said in Daphne . Arcade joystick orientation wrong.:

I believe the original arcade version didn't include the drawbridge scene but was included in various home versions.

That, and DLE 2.1 plays the scenes in a more logical order, e.g. the drawbridge first, then the entrance, then the more deeper rooms. As far as I remember, the original arcade version had a more random order.

bbrueck

@saturnx WOW! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. Also fun to learn so much about the history of these games! So I've followed your comments up to the part about launching the 2.1 version of the game? I'm currently just selecting the game from the Virtualman interface.
Thanks again for your help!

SaturnX

@bbrueck Glad I could help - spent a bit of time getting Daphne and Singe up and running on my arcade cab and wanted to share what I've learned as there doesn't seem to be a lot of discussion on laserdisc emulation.

That said - in terms of my post, I was suggesting that you enable the On-Screen Score Board, since I assume that when you start Dragon's Lair there's no score/credit info on screen in the top right/centre of the screen?

You can enable that by creating the dle21.commands or lair.commands file (depending on which version you're running) and and placing it in the proper location. (See the Daphe documentation I've linked above). You can do this either through SSH or connecting to the roms network share and taking a look under the daphne folder.

The folder structure should look like this (linked in the Daphne docs above):

roms
|-- daphne
|    |   (The folder below holds a laserdisc...".daphne"
|    |   tells emulationstation to add this to the menu,
|    |   and "dle21" tells daphne to use that game engine)
|    |
|    |-- dle21.daphne     
|    |    |-- dle21.commands  (Optional extra command-
|    |    |                   line params!)
|    |    |-- dle21.txt      (Framefile)
|    |    |-- lair.m2v
|    |    |-- lair.ogg
|    |
|    |                (All roms go into this roms folder)
|    +-- roms
|         +-- dle21.zip

Now you mentioned you're running a 3rd party image - so unfortunately I can't help much further as I can't say for certain what has / has not been modified from a clean / stock image of RetroPie. Given the level of customization available with RetroPie, there's no way for me or anyone on this forum to know what settings/parameters, etc.. have been changed so the information that I and others provide may not work as expected or at all.

I'd really recommend installing a fresh stock image and learning about how to setup a RetroPie install so you can troubleshoot/customize as you so desire.

Let me know if you have any other questions and I'll try my best to help you out.

jchannell

@pjft I have another build error happening. Any idea what's causing this? I'm getting it both running command line on the Pi and via SSH.

This is on a 3A+ running 4.7.1. Tried updating scripts and still got the same error.

g++  -mcpu=cortex-a53 -mfpu=neon-fp-armv8 -O2  `sdl-config --cflags` -DUNIX -DLINUX -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -DUSE_OPENGL -DRPI -DSTATIC_VLDP  -Wall -fsigned-char -c m80.cpp -o m80.o
g++: fatal error: Killed signal terminated program cc1plus
compilation terminated.
make[1]: *** [Makefile:18: m80.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/tmp/build/daphne/src/cpu'
make: *** [Makefile:71: sub] Error 2
/home/pi/RetroPie-Setup
pi@retropie:~/RetroPie-Setup $

pjft

@jchannell I very much wouldn't, but if I had to venture a guess I'd guess the compiler is running out of memory. Any more details, RetroPie version, how are you compiling it?

Increasing the compiler swap might help, if that's the issue. @mitu thoughts?

mitu

@pjft said in Daphne . Arcade joystick orientation wrong.:

@mitu thoughts?

Yeah, insufficient memory alright. Any reason to install from source when a binary is available ?

jchannell

@mitu I will install from any source that gets Daphne working with my joystick. :D

Seriously though, I'm far from a Linux expert. I'm just following these steps in command line as outlined above:

cd /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/
sudo ./retropie_packages.sh daphne clean
sudo git clone https://github.com/pjft/daphne-emu/ tmp/build/daphne
cd tmp/build/daphne
sudo git checkout retropie
cd /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup
sudo ./retropie_packages.sh daphne build
sudo ./retropie_packages.sh daphne install
sudo ./retropie_packages.sh daphne configure

But it hits that spot and fails every time.

Here are the system stats:



     .***.     Monday, 14 March 2022, 21:40:58
     *****     Linux 5.4.72-v7+ armv7l GNU/Linux
     `***'     
      |*|      Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
      |*|      /dev/root        30G  4.7G   24G  17% /
    ..|*|..    Uptime.............: 0 days, 00h38m28s
  .*** * ***.  Memory.............: 90676kB (Free) / 245228kB (Total)
  *******@@**  Running Processes..: 133
  `*****@@**'  IP Address.........: 10.0.0.34
   `*******'   Temperature........: CPU: 54°C/129°F GPU: 54°C/129°F
     `"""'     The RetroPie Project, https://retropie.org.uk

pi@retropie:~ $

jchannell

@pjft Tried the instructions here to increase the swap file, but no luck. https://wpitchoune.net/tricks/raspberry_pi3_increase_swap_size.html

EDIT: Turns out I edited the wrong part of the file. Just got past the install hump, so I'll troubleshoot further as I go. Thanks for all the help!

jchannell

@pjft Now that it is finally installed, I'm still getting the same joystick issues on Dragon's Lair, even with changing the .ini file.

Just to check, does your repo have the changes that Grant made? The main reason I was recompiling was because his GitHub no longer appears to be active.

pjft

@jchannell My repo does, but without knowing exactly what issues you're facing, it's hard to understand what you're going for :)

Use this branch:

https://github.com/pjft/daphne-emu/tree/grant2258-controls

jchannell

@pjft Understandable. Probably just got lost in all of the troubleshooting. :D

I'm using a Dragonrise USB encoder and a Sanwa joystick (5 pin single cable) and getting the same wacky joystick routing. Going to try installing from that repo. Thanks!

EDIT: Actually, I'm not entirely sure what I'm supposed to do with Grant's code here. If I follow the steps I outlined, should that script have been installed or is there something else I need to do?

jchannell

@pjft I was able to install from that branch using this string:

cd /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/
sudo ./retropie_packages.sh daphne clean
sudo git clone --branch grant2258-controls "https://github.com/pjft/daphne-emu.git" tmp/build/daphne
cd tmp/build/daphne
sudo git checkout retropie
cd /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup
sudo ./retropie_packages.sh daphne build
sudo ./retropie_packages.sh daphne install
sudo ./retropie_packages.sh daphne configure

But the controls are still not working correctly. Up and down seem to be reversed, and it's hard to tell if that's the same with right and left. I'm about to rip my hair out here.

pjft

@jchannell I genuinely don't quite know what to make of this - knowing that there isn't any logging in place to be better able to troubleshoot it, and not knowing if the issue is with the joystick setup, with daphne, or something else, it's very much a shot in the dark, apologies.

In your instructions, all seems reasonable, though I'm wondering why are you checking out the "retropie" branch? That seems off - you want the grant2258-controls one.

I could recommend jstest and such to determine what values are being received by the system, and then adjusting the controls file, but if none of this helps, I'd probably recommend looking into Hypseus, which is under more active development and has better controls support from my understanding: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/18505/new-hypseus-and-lr-daphne-to-add-on-retropie-setup/472

jchannell

@pjft said in Daphne . Arcade joystick orientation wrong.:

In your instructions, all seems reasonable, though I'm wondering why are you checking out the "retropie" branch? That seems off - you want the grant2258-controls one.

Oh... that is likely why! This is my first time working with this kind of compiling, so I wasn't sure what that code meant. Will give that a shot next.

Also, just wanted to say thank you so much on helping out here and putting up with people like me struggling.

pjft

@jchannell By all means. Do let us know how it goes.

DirtBagXon

@jchannell said in Daphne . Arcade joystick orientation wrong.:

But the controls are still not working correctly. Up and down seem to be reversed, and it's hard to tell if that's the same with right and left. I'm about to rip my hair out here.

Hi @jchannell , if you try hypseus (in RetroPie-Setup 'exp ' packages)

You will have the ability to swap the joystick axis directions. This was not possible in the original Daphne without physically inverting the joystick.

Take a look at the example config file here:

https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus-singe/blob/master/doc/hypinput.ini

You probably want to play with the 4th field in the top four AXIS options. Altering the '+' and '-' to suit.

KEY_UP = SDLK_UP 0 0 -002
KEY_DOWN = SDLK_DOWN 0 0 +002
KEY_LEFT = SDLK_LEFT 0 0 -001
KEY_RIGHT = SDLK_RIGHT 0 0 +001

Edit: Looking back at this thread it seems that the work-a-round was to use the D-Pad rather than analog axis. Using the above hypseus config, you should be able to adjust/assign either: 3rd field for D-Pad, 4th field for analog axis.

superdan

Hi guys, my daphne controller still dont work (almost left right)
up and down seems ok.
Any suggestion?
Thanks

mitu

@superdan Please don't bump old topics. Open a new topic and explain your issue, providing the info asked in https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first.
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