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    testudo @Folly
    last edited by testudo 17 Dec 2021, 22:11

    @folly said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

    @testudo

    Is it a 1.2Mb floppy .hdm image or a 1.44Mb ?

    I tried the same, as what you did, with mame with a 1.2Mb .hdm but that didn't seem to work.
    So perhaps I missing something here.

    I have to try it again.

    I'm not sure how to check the file size in the FMTowns OS, but the "ROM" file size is 1,261,568 bytes, so I would guess it is a 1.2Mb. It is MS-DOS formatted if that is a clue: I used Repacked Neo Kobe [OS] Blank disk/

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      Folly @testudo
      last edited by Folly 18 Dec 2021, 09:05

      @testudo @DTEAM

      It's an 1.2Mb floppy image.

      I used the same now for mame.
      But basically I had the same problem as the last time.

      Inserting the floppy image and select : read and write.
      After some time it will say : check user disk !

      I decided to select : read from image and save to another image.
      Then it asks what kind of image format, I selected : fmtowns unformatted and changed the name so it will create a new floppy.

      After that it was accepted and I could go playing.
      But the game seems stuck after selecting some play options.

      Did you manage to play ?

      Btw.
      Using the game specific load option has it's advantage.
      When selecting the floppy image next time it will show up the correct directory for selecting the image.

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        testudo @Folly
        last edited by testudo 18 Dec 2021, 16:12

        @folly

        I only played the Practice session option for a few minutes and that worked fine. I will try the proper game/tournament option and report back.

        Unfortunately, I have been unable to get the MAME emulator options or MESS game specific emulator selection options to work. I have even tried making them the default in the emulator.config file and still no success.

        I created a User Disk folder in the Rom directory where I store all the different user disks and lr-mess seems to default to it when I use the GUI to add a floppy image. So adding the user disk image file is a fairly quick exercise.

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          Folly @testudo
          last edited by Folly 18 Dec 2021, 20:31

          @testudo said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

          @folly

          I only played the Practice session option for a few minutes and that worked fine. I will try the proper game/tournament option and report back.

          Curious if it will works, on your side.

          Unfortunately, I have been unable to get the MAME emulator options or MESS game specific emulator selection options to work. I have even tried making them the default in the emulator.config file and still no success.

          I don't know what problem you have then.

          I created a User Disk folder in the Rom directory where I store all the different user disks and lr-mess seems to default to it when I use the GUI to add a floppy image. So adding the user disk image file is a fairly quick exercise.

          Nice solution.

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            Folly @testudo
            last edited by Folly 19 Dec 2021, 15:55

            @testudo

            Progress, indeed I got it, it's working.
            Only the carreer option doesn't work, I think.

            2021-12-19-142509_800x600_scrot.png

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              testudo @Folly
              last edited by 19 Dec 2021, 21:40

              @folly

              Fantastic! I was going to post that I played 5 sets in <Exhibition> and it worked fine.

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                testudo
                last edited by 22 Mar 2022, 22:35

                @Folly
                Does the Acorn Archimedes emulation still work for you? I have updated RP a few times and recently went back to revisit my Archimedes game library, only to find I am unable to launch any games. I usually get the screen below (remember seeing this previously, but forget the fix) when using lr-mess. The RISC OS never boots.
                Screenshot from 2022-03-22 17-33-01.png

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                  Folly @testudo
                  last edited by Folly 23 Mar 2022, 06:59

                  @testudo

                  Yes, it works.

                  You should check your /dev/shm/runcommand.log .

                  I used my latest mamedev-script 241.00 .
                  Installed "aa310 + booting Risc OS 310 + floppy" from the EXTRAS section .
                  Placed the these bioses in /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame :
                  aa310.7z
                  archimedes_keyboard.7z

                  extracted the mame software archimedes.zip in /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/archimedes .

                  Loaded lemming.zip correctly with :
                  lr-mess-aa310-bios_310-flop
                  lr-run_mess-aa310-flop-autoframeskip
                  mame-aa310-bios_310-flop

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                    testudo @Folly
                    last edited by 23 Mar 2022, 23:11

                    @Folly said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                    the mame software archimedes.zip

                    Looks like my BIOS files are not working for some reason.

                    [libretro ERROR] 0296,041-01.rom NOT FOUND (tried in aa310)
                    0296,042-01.rom NOT FOUND (tried in aa310)
                    0296,043-01.rom NOT FOUND (tried in aa310)
                    0296,044-01.rom NOT FOUND (tried in aa310)
                    cmos_riscos3.bin NOT FOUND (tried in aa310)
                    acorn_0280,022-01_philips_8051ah-2.bin NOT FOUND (tried in archimedes_keyboard aa310)
                    

                    But, it appears those roms are in my aa310.zip and archimedes_keyboard.zip (I have .7Z versions in the BIOS folder as well).

                    Screenshot from 2022-03-23 18-02-54.png

                    Screenshot from 2022-03-23 18-04-21.png

                    More investigating to do...

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                      Folly @testudo
                      last edited by Folly 24 Mar 2022, 07:42

                      @testudo

                      You know, you can do it with my script in the "restricted browser".
                      You only have to insert the correct "website name".

                      You can search, with google/duckduckgo, for the file in mame-0.231-merged
                      Then you will know what to insert into the form.
                      Then you will see everything what is available.

                      When selecting something from this romset, it will automatically be pushed to the BIOS/mame.

                      There is also an option for BIOS(es) not found.
                      After you tried a system in mame or lr-mess, just go to my script and select that (picture 2) and if it works correctly then it will show you what you are missing and have to get.

                      2022-03-24-083815_1600x900_scrot.png 2022-03-24-083819_1600x900_scrot.png

                      Edit :
                      Replace the xxx'es
                      axxxxxx.xxg

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                        testudo @Folly
                        last edited by 24 Mar 2022, 22:08

                        @Folly
                        Thanks for pointing me in the right direction and alerting me to the browser feature.

                        I am apparently not in the correct frame of mind to be thinking clearly, as the web addresses I enter for the merged set are being rejected. Might be because they are split into smaller compressed files due to hosting requirements. I will re-read your instructions after a good night's rest and try again tomorrow.

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                          testudo @Folly
                          last edited by 25 Mar 2022, 22:17

                          @Folly

                          Ok, a good night's sleep did wonders. I figured out how to use the restricted browser. The script saw my currently installed BIOS as valid, so I deleted them and re-installed the two files via the script. Unfortunately, the situation remains unchanged and the pink screen was still there.

                          I'll keep investigating in my spare time.

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                            testudo @testudo
                            last edited by 26 Mar 2022, 20:02

                            @Folly
                            Solved the problem. For some reason regular lr-mess no longer worked and selecting the lr-run_mess aa4001 option did the trick.

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                              Folly @testudo
                              last edited by Folly 26 Mar 2022, 21:56

                              @testudo

                              Good to hear that you got it working.

                              Did you use the latest lr-mess and my latest script for installation ?
                              What about mame, did it work ?
                              Is this the loader command that didn't work ?
                              lr-mess-aa310-bios_310-flop = "/opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch --config /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/retroarch.cfg --appendconfig /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/retroarch.cfg.add -S /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/archimedes -s /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/archimedes -v -L /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so 'aa310 -bios 310 -rompath /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame;/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/archimedes/ -cfg_directory /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/lr-mess -c -ui_active -flop %ROM%'"
                              (can you check inside your /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/emulators.cfg)

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                                testudo @Folly
                                last edited by testudo 27 Mar 2022, 01:27

                                @Folly
                                Pretty sure used lr-mess .241 when re-installing Archimedes. I am not sure if it was using version .240 or .241 of your script though. The BIOS was definitely installed with v.241.01 of your script.

                                I had initially used this loader command, but it stopped working:

                                lr-mess-aa310-bios_310-flop = "/opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch --config /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/retroarch.cfg --appendconfig /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/retroarch.cfg.add -S /home/testudo/RetroPie/roms/archimedes -s /home/testudo/RetroPie/roms/archimedes -v -L /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so 'aa310 -bios 310 -rompath /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame;/home/testudo/RetroPie/roms/archimedes/ -cfg_directory /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/lr-mess -c -ui_active -flop %ROM%'"
                                

                                From the start, I have really only had success using the lr-mess versions of the loader commands, regardless of the system being emulated. With few exceptions, the MAME options fail to work.

                                This is the loader command that is working successfully:

                                lr-run_mess-aa4401-bios_310-4Mb-flop-autoframeskip = "/home/testudo/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/run_mess.sh /opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/retroarch.cfg \aa4401 /home/testudo/RetroPie/BIOS/mame\;/home/testudo/RetroPie/roms/archimedes  -autoframeskip -cfg_directory /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/lr-mess -ui_active -bios 310 -ram 4M -flop %ROM%"
                                
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                                  Folly @testudo
                                  last edited by 27 Mar 2022, 07:30

                                  @testudo

                                  Tanks for letting me know what you did and that looks good.

                                  Very strange that the plain mame and lr-mess loaders won't work properly.

                                  lr-runmess uses the same lr-mess indirectly by making a .cmd file and then running that with lr-mess. After stopping the game that .cmd is removed again.

                                  Can't point my finger on it on where it goes wrong.

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                                    Folly @testudo
                                    last edited by 27 Mar 2022, 09:40

                                    @testudo

                                    Can you test a minimal mame command in the cli for me.
                                    This way we will try to load "aa310" with "-bios 310" directly without commands that are generated by my script.
                                    I would like to know if this works.
                                    With this we eliminate everything that has to do with my script.

                                    So exit emulationstation with F4, then type :

                                    /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame aa310 -bios 310
                                    

                                    You can speed up the typing by using the <tab> key to automatically add the directory names :

                                    /o<tab>/r<tab>/e<tab>/ma<tab>/ma<tab> aa310 -bios 310
                                    

                                    The UI is off by default this way so you have to use the "scroll-lock key" to activate.
                                    Then you can escape with the "esc key"

                                    Can you let me know if it boots into the 310 OS ?

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                                      testudo @Folly
                                      last edited by testudo 27 Mar 2022, 14:43

                                      @Folly said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                      /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame aa310 -bios 310

                                      No success.

                                      testudo@testudo-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC:~$ /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame aa310 -bios 310
                                      Error opening translation file English
                                      0296,041-01.rom NOT FOUND (tried in aa310)
                                      0296,042-01.rom NOT FOUND (tried in aa310)
                                      0296,043-01.rom NOT FOUND (tried in aa310)
                                      0296,044-01.rom NOT FOUND (tried in aa310)
                                      cmos_riscos3.bin NOT FOUND (tried in aa310)
                                      acorn_0280,022-01_philips_8051ah-2.bin NOT FOUND (tried in archimedes_keyboard aa310)
                                      Fatal error: Required files are missing, the machine cannot be run.
                                      
                                      

                                      aa310.7z and archimedes_keyboard.7z BIOS files are located in /Home/RetroPie/BIOS/mame.

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                                        Folly @testudo
                                        last edited by Folly 27 Mar 2022, 14:56

                                        @testudo

                                        Do you have this line in /opt/retropie/configs/mame/mame.ini ? :

                                        rompath /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame;/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/arcade;/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame
                                        

                                        (and also in the linked directory : /home/pi/.mame/mame.ini ?)

                                        /Home/RetroPie/BIOS/mame

                                        EDIT !!! :
                                        You mean :
                                        /home/testudo/RetroPie/BIOS/mame

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                                          Folly @testudo
                                          last edited by Folly 27 Mar 2022, 15:28

                                          @testudo said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                          testudo@testudo

                                          I see that you do not use "pi" as username but "testudo".
                                          That might be the problem.
                                          The rompath should be :
                                          /home/testudo/RetroPie/BIOS/mame; etc.

                                          I found that the rompath in the plain lr-mess loader is incorrect :
                                          -rompath /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame;/home/testudo/RetroPie/roms/archimedes/

                                          That is also an issue.

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