Old Computer Appreciation Thread

Folly

You know, you can do it with my script in the "restricted browser".
You only have to insert the correct "website name".

You can search, with google/duckduckgo, for the file in mame-0.231-merged
Then you will know what to insert into the form.
Then you will see everything what is available.

When selecting something from this romset, it will automatically be pushed to the BIOS/mame.

There is also an option for BIOS(es) not found.
After you tried a system in mame or lr-mess, just go to my script and select that (picture 2) and if it works correctly then it will show you what you are missing and have to get.

Edit :
Replace the xxx'es
axxxxxx.xxg

testudo

@Folly
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction and alerting me to the browser feature.

I am apparently not in the correct frame of mind to be thinking clearly, as the web addresses I enter for the merged set are being rejected. Might be because they are split into smaller compressed files due to hosting requirements. I will re-read your instructions after a good night's rest and try again tomorrow.

testudo

@Folly

Ok, a good night's sleep did wonders. I figured out how to use the restricted browser. The script saw my currently installed BIOS as valid, so I deleted them and re-installed the two files via the script. Unfortunately, the situation remains unchanged and the pink screen was still there.

I'll keep investigating in my spare time.

testudo

@Folly
Solved the problem. For some reason regular lr-mess no longer worked and selecting the lr-run_mess aa4001 option did the trick.

Folly

@testudo

Good to hear that you got it working.

Did you use the latest lr-mess and my latest script for installation ?
What about mame, did it work ?
Is this the loader command that didn't work ?
lr-mess-aa310-bios_310-flop = "/opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch --config /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/retroarch.cfg --appendconfig /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/retroarch.cfg.add -S /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/archimedes -s /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/archimedes -v -L /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so 'aa310 -bios 310 -rompath /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame;/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/archimedes/ -cfg_directory /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/lr-mess -c -ui_active -flop %ROM%'"
(can you check inside your /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/emulators.cfg)

testudo

@Folly
Pretty sure used lr-mess .241 when re-installing Archimedes. I am not sure if it was using version .240 or .241 of your script though. The BIOS was definitely installed with v.241.01 of your script.

I had initially used this loader command, but it stopped working:

lr-mess-aa310-bios_310-flop = "/opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch --config /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/retroarch.cfg --appendconfig /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/retroarch.cfg.add -S /home/testudo/RetroPie/roms/archimedes -s /home/testudo/RetroPie/roms/archimedes -v -L /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so 'aa310 -bios 310 -rompath /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame;/home/testudo/RetroPie/roms/archimedes/ -cfg_directory /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/lr-mess -c -ui_active -flop %ROM%'"

From the start, I have really only had success using the lr-mess versions of the loader commands, regardless of the system being emulated. With few exceptions, the MAME options fail to work.

This is the loader command that is working successfully:

lr-run_mess-aa4401-bios_310-4Mb-flop-autoframeskip = "/home/testudo/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/run_mess.sh /opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/retroarch.cfg \aa4401 /home/testudo/RetroPie/BIOS/mame\;/home/testudo/RetroPie/roms/archimedes  -autoframeskip -cfg_directory /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/lr-mess -ui_active -bios 310 -ram 4M -flop %ROM%"

Folly

@testudo

Tanks for letting me know what you did and that looks good.

Very strange that the plain mame and lr-mess loaders won't work properly.

lr-runmess uses the same lr-mess indirectly by making a .cmd file and then running that with lr-mess. After stopping the game that .cmd is removed again.

Can't point my finger on it on where it goes wrong.

Folly

@testudo

Can you test a minimal mame command in the cli for me.
This way we will try to load "aa310" with "-bios 310" directly without commands that are generated by my script.
I would like to know if this works.
With this we eliminate everything that has to do with my script.

So exit emulationstation with F4, then type :

/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame aa310 -bios 310

You can speed up the typing by using the <tab> key to automatically add the directory names :

/o<tab>/r<tab>/e<tab>/ma<tab>/ma<tab> aa310 -bios 310

The UI is off by default this way so you have to use the "scroll-lock key" to activate.
Then you can escape with the "esc key"

Can you let me know if it boots into the 310 OS ?

testudo

@Folly said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame aa310 -bios 310

No success.

testudo@testudo-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC:~$ /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame aa310 -bios 310
Error opening translation file English
0296,041-01.rom NOT FOUND (tried in aa310)
0296,042-01.rom NOT FOUND (tried in aa310)
0296,043-01.rom NOT FOUND (tried in aa310)
0296,044-01.rom NOT FOUND (tried in aa310)
cmos_riscos3.bin NOT FOUND (tried in aa310)
acorn_0280,022-01_philips_8051ah-2.bin NOT FOUND (tried in archimedes_keyboard aa310)
Fatal error: Required files are missing, the machine cannot be run.

aa310.7z and archimedes_keyboard.7z BIOS files are located in /Home/RetroPie/BIOS/mame.

Folly

@testudo

Do you have this line in /opt/retropie/configs/mame/mame.ini ? :

rompath /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame;/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/arcade;/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame

(and also in the linked directory : /home/pi/.mame/mame.ini ?)

/Home/RetroPie/BIOS/mame

EDIT !!! :
You mean :
/home/testudo/RetroPie/BIOS/mame

Folly

@testudo said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

testudo@testudo

I see that you do not use "pi" as username but "testudo".
That might be the problem.
The rompath should be :
/home/testudo/RetroPie/BIOS/mame; etc.

I found that the rompath in the plain lr-mess loader is incorrect :
-rompath /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame;/home/testudo/RetroPie/roms/archimedes/

That is also an issue.

Folly

@testudo

Do you have testudo in mame.ini ? or pi ?

I will look at my script and try to fix the problem.

Folly

@testudo

I did 2 commits.
In the first one I converted all /home/pi to /home/$user.
(but I mistakenly used an older script)
In the second commit I pushed back the last update that I mistakenly erased.
https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/commit/bbf6608399c250745613995a1db4c5378cb72213
https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/commit/b166a085236357032632850a9c038f2259bb4805

Get this new 0240.03 script and reinstall all the aa310 again.
That should fix the problem for my script at least.

We still have to look into the mame.ini.

Folly

@testudo said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

aa310.7z and archimedes_keyboard.7z BIOS files are located in /Home/RetroPie/BIOS/mame.

Just to make sure, your bios files have to be in :
/home/testudo/RetroPie/BIOS/mame

If everything is ok the original mame module-script should have created this line in /opt/retropie/configs/mame/mame.ini ? :

rompath /home/testudo/RetroPie/roms/mame;/home/testudo/RetroPie/roms/arcade;/home/testudo/RetroPie/BIOS/mame

When you have above, then the mame command you tried earlier should work now :

/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame aa310 -bios 310

testudo

@Folly

Apologies, in my haste I did not fully/correctly list the directory locations:

/home/testudo/RetroPie/BIOS/mame
/home/testudo/RetroPie/roms/archimedes

<testudo> is used in the mame.ini rompath line code for both file locations:

rompath                   "/home/testudo/MAME;/home/testudo/MAME/MAME ROMs;/home/testudo/RetroPie/roms;/home/testudo/RetroPie;/home/testudo/RetroPie/roms;/home/testudo/RetroPie;/home/testudo/RetroPie/roms"

Reinstalled using script 0240.03 and no significant changes. The one being that I can now get to an OS screen using both:

mame-aa310-bios_310-flop = "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -rompath /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame\;/home/testudo/RetroPie/roms/archimedes -v -c -ui_active -statename archimedes/%BASENAME% aa310 -bios 310 -flop %ROM%"

Screenshot from 2022-03-27 12-16-19.png

and

lr-mess-aa310-flop = "/opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch --config /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/retroarch.cfg --appendconfig /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/retroarch.cfg.add -S /home/testudo/RetroPie/roms/archimedes -s /home/testudo/RetroPie/roms/archimedes -v -L /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mess/mess_libretro.so 'aa310  -rompath /home/testudo/RetroPie/BIOS/mame;/home/testudo/RetroPie/roms/archimedes/ -cfg_directory /opt/retropie/configs/archimedes/lr-mess -c -ui_active -flop %ROM%'"

Screenshot from 2022-03-27 12-12-48.png

Still, <lr-run_mess-aa4401-bios_310-4Mb-flop-autoframeskip> is the only option to fully boot to the game.

Tried updating the both mame.ini to:

rompath "/home/testudo/RetroPie/roms/mame;/home/testudo/RetroPie/roms/arcade;/home/testudo/RetroPie/BIOS/mame"

and executed:

/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame aa310 -bios 310

to no success. No OS screen, just the same error as above.

<lr-run_mess-aa4401-bios_310-4Mb-flop-autoframeskip> does work with those rompath locations however.

Folly

@testudo

Hopefully we are getting there.
Btw. I never noticed that issue in my script, totally overlooked ;-)
If we find it, it would be a major improvement for the script.

This is what I seeing now :
This path is still missing from your mame.ini (from the line you send me) :
/home/testudo/RetroPie/BIOS/mame

Your line :

rompath                   "/home/testudo/MAME;/home/testudo/MAME/MAME ROMs;/home/testudo/RetroPie/roms;/home/testudo/RetroPie;/home/testudo/RetroPie/roms;/home/testudo/RetroPie;/home/testudo/RetroPie/roms"

Should be no problem :
Spaces cannot be used, I think (try to remove this one):
/home/testudo/MAME/MAME ROMs
And remove the quotes => "

The loader mame-aa310-bios_310-flop still has -rompath /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame in it.
Seems It's not updated correctly.

Folly

@testudo

What OS are you using for RetroPie ?

Is your :
/home/pi/.mame/mame.ini
the same as :
/opt/retropie/configs/mame/mame.ini
?

/home/pi/.mame is a link to /opt/retropie/configs/mame
So the mame.ini in both directories should be the same file.

testudo

@Folly
OS is Ubuntu 20.04

/home/<user name>/.mame/mame.ini

/opt/retropie/config/mame/mame.ini

are the same.

Folly

@testudo

If you checked my last recommendation and everything looks good but it still doesn't work...
Then we are on a dead end again.

Ubuntu 20.04, not sure, probably ok but could also be a part of the problem.
I can remember that I have had differences in how quotes are handled in other OSes. This can influence the process of finding the correct rompaths.
That is probably something that has to be tested.

When we have a good idea we can always take a look a second time.

Obviously, my script is already improved by this discussion, so that is already very nice ;-)
Thanks !

testudo

@Folly

Sadly, it appears we did hit a dead end after trying your latest recommendation. I also tried with and without quotes for the rom path entry, to no avail.

I can access my games using the lr-run option, so I am happy.

Thanks for your patience and persistence. You are a great value the Retro community.