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    • DarksaviorD
      Darksavior @barbudreadmon
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      @barbudreadmon I've only tested deathsmiles black label (50% cpu) and it got a huge boost. Even better than mame2016. It's now 59-60fps most of the time with 57-58fps dips. The vertical level will still dip into 53-55fps but it's still a big improvement.

      I'm using retropie on bullseye 64bit lite, 2000 cpu/750 gpu, glcore, 1440p crt-pi shader.

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        barbudreadmon @Darksavior
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        @Darksavior Yeah, the emulation is almost twice faster on my desktop at 100% cpu, That improvement is about the sh3/sh4 interpreter and will have less of an effect if you downclock that cpu, but it should still be quite noticeable.

        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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          G30FF @barbudreadmon
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          @barbudreadmon I was playing some NeoGeo games on my Pi, and I tried out the Crossed Swords II MVS/AES conversion (crswd2bl.zip). The game has a number of graphical glitches, with sprites that appear to stutter and flicker. They don't seem to affect gameplay, and the game still works aside from this. I don't think it's an issue with the conversion, as I see the same problem using a Redump version of the Neo Geo CD version. The bug is not present if I run the game in lr-neocd, but it is present in lr-fbneo.

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            barbudreadmon @G30FF
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            @G30FF Thanks for the report ! I'm surprised no one ever reported that one, the fix is on git.

            FBNeo developer - github - forum

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              G30FF @barbudreadmon
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              @barbudreadmon Yep, the problem is fixed now! Thanks!

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                G30FF @barbudreadmon
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                @barbudreadmon It seems that now the flickering sprites issue is happening in Blazing Star, on the level 2 backgrounds at least.

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                  barbudreadmon @G30FF
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                  @G30FF Sorry for the late answer, i wasn't home for the past few days. The issue was reported and fixed upstream last week, but i couldn't sync the libretro port immediately, it's done now :)

                  FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                    G30FF @barbudreadmon
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                    @barbudreadmon No problem at all! I built from source and can confirm it's fixed. Thanks!

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                    • roslofR
                      roslof
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                      Well done FB-Neo crew (@barbudreadmon and @dinkc64) for pulling this off so quickly. Do y'all ever sleep?

                      marblmd2.jpg

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                        barbudreadmon @roslof
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                        @roslof Another rarity named "Megumi Rescue" was also dumped and added over the past few days :)

                        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                          roslof @barbudreadmon
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                          @barbudreadmon said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                          @roslof Another rarity named "Megumi Rescue" was also dumped and added over the past few days :)

                          So, you don't sleep. And you're keeping me up. :P

                          megrescu.jpg

                          ...and I think dinkc64 might be a robot.

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                            Machtroid
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                            Is there an easy way for me to see what games have become supported in fbneo since the last time I updated this emulator in retropie, lets say May of 2021? I want to update but I would like to know how many games have become supported in the past year or so, if possible.

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                              barbudreadmon @Machtroid
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                              @Machtroid said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                              Is there an easy way for me to see what games have become supported in fbneo since the last time I updated this emulator in retropie, lets say May of 2021

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                              @Machtroid said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                              I want to update but I would like to know how many games have become supported in the past year or so, if possible.

                              Not including clones & hacks, probably more than a hundred.

                              FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                              • FollyF
                                Folly @Machtroid
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                                @Machtroid

                                I compared the arcade dat files for game names.
                                (2 may 2021 and recent)

                                Up until now 399 game entries were added. ( removals not take into account here !)
                                273 of them are clones.

                                The non-clones are :
                                akatana aa alpha1v bace borench bublbust chinhero berabohm columns columns2 crashh crush cyclemb cyclshtg dderby deathsml dsmbl dicegame discoboy dfkbl ddpdfk ddpsdoj dokaben2 dynamski espgal2 exerion finallap finalap2 finalap3 fourtrax harem heiankyo hypernoid ibara ibarablk ltorb lazybug looptris magicstk marblmd2 megrescu mslughb missile headonch mrsdyna mspactwin mmpork mushisam futaribl futari15 shoottv nsub nycaptor namenayo neopang 3in1semi nostromo ooparts peekaboo pinkswts playball pcktgal potopoto powerbal wldcourt ws puyo puyopuy2 ichir tantr mushitam redclash ribbit samurai ssonicbr sonicfgt shangkid skydest sokoban speccies sqij stkclmns suzuka8h suzuk8h2 daraku ctower tfrceac timesup twinsqua vsrbibbal vsbattlecity vscastlevania vsclucluland vsdrmario vsduckhunt vsexcitebike vsfreedomforce vsfrombelow vsgoonies vsgradius vsgumshoe vshogansalley vsiceclimber vsmachrider vsmightybomjack vsninjajkun vspinball vsplatoon vsraidbbay vsslalom vssoccer vsstarluster vssmgolfla vssmgolf vssmb vssuperskykid vssuperxevious vstetris vstkoboxing vstopgun wwmarine soniccar wbml xenocrisis zerohour zunkyou

                                Conclusion: amongst others a lot of Nintendo VS titles have been added in the last year.

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                                  roslof @Folly
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                                  @Folly said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                                  Conclusion: amongst others a lot of Nintendo VS titles have been added in the last year.

                                  And every Cave game, I believe (some of the best bullet-hell shmups you'll every see).

                                  @Folly this is great. I know how to do diffs, but not how to easily extract the deltas like you did. Cheers!

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                                  • YFZdudeY
                                    YFZdude @roslof
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                                    @roslof
                                    A clever use of grep and cut will produce a one word per line list of strictly the rom names.

                                    After that there are probably numerous ways to compare them. I would likely use Excel (Calc) to paste the two lists into two columns and then use a formula with a combination of IF and VLOOKUP to display a blank cell in column 3 if the value in column 2 is found within column 1, else display the rom name in column 3.

                                    Alternate method might be if you already use clrmamepro you can just insert the new .dat file and let it tell you what you are missing. I believe wholly missing roms show up differently than roms with a file or two mismatch indicating they have been redumped.

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                                    • RiverstormR
                                      Riverstorm
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                                      This was quick and dirty for fun as I had something close already written in Python but there might be mistakes. :) I did a straight compare between the DAT from may 1st, 2021 and the current one (3 days ago). Game ROM names only no BIOS files, if they changed even.

                                      I came up with 352 additions (that does count games that were renamed so the real number might be a bit lower). Something for example like bloodstm10 renamed to bloodstm104, it's going to count it as new.

                                      Comparing them in reverse I came up with a list of 25. I would assume these are the games that were renamed or possibly removed from FBNeo. The lists are below.

                                      New and renamed games:

                                      3in1semia
                                      aa
                                      akatana
                                      aliens4
                                      alpha1v
                                      armwarb
                                      astyanaxa
                                      asukaja
                                      asurabusj
                                      asurabusja
                                      asurabusjr
                                      atombjt
                                      bace
                                      batsugunc
                                      blastero
                                      blazstarcm
                                      bloodbrom
                                      bloodstm104
                                      bloodstm110
                                      bloodstm210
                                      bloodstm220
                                      bloodstm221
                                      bloxeedc
                                      bloxeedu
                                      borench
                                      borencha
                                      borenchj
                                      brkthrubl
                                      brkthrut
                                      bronx
                                      bublbust
                                      bucanera
                                      cadashgo
                                      chinhero
                                      chinhero2
                                      chinhero3
                                      chinherot
                                      cityatta
                                      cnbe2018
                                      colt
                                      column2j
                                      columns2
                                      columnsj
                                      columnsu
                                      crashh
                                      crshrace2a
                                      crush3
                                      ctower
                                      cybotsam
                                      cyclemb
                                      cyclshtg
                                      dderby
                                      ddpdfk
                                      ddpdfk10
                                      ddpsdoj
                                      deathsml
                                      devilfshg
                                      devilfshgb
                                      dfkbl
                                      dicegame
                                      dietgoea
                                      discoboy
                                      discoboyp
                                      dkfreerun
                                      dkongbp
                                      dkongbp1
                                      dkongchm
                                      dkongchm1
                                      dkongitd
                                      dkongss
                                      dkongst
                                      dkongst2
                                      dkongtj
                                      docastle2
                                      docastleo
                                      dogyuunb
                                      dokaben2
                                      dorunrun2
                                      dorunrunc
                                      dorunrunca
                                      doubledrsp
                                      douni
                                      dsmbl
                                      dynamski
                                      earthjkrb
                                      emeraldah
                                      espgal2
                                      espgal2a
                                      exerion
                                      exerionb
                                      exeriont
                                      finalap2
                                      finalap2j
                                      finalap3
                                      finalap3a
                                      finalap3bl
                                      finalap3j
                                      finalap3jc
                                      finallap
                                      finallapc
                                      finallapd
                                      finallapjb
                                      finallapjc
                                      finger
                                      floritas
                                      floritasm
                                      fourtrax
                                      fourtraxa
                                      fourtraxj
                                      futari10
                                      futari15
                                      futari15a
                                      futaribl
                                      futariblj
                                      galpaniex
                                      galpaniska
                                      harem
                                      headonch
                                      heiankyo
                                      hiryuken
                                      hotminda
                                      hsf2pp
                                      hypernoid
                                      ibara
                                      ibarablk
                                      ibarablka
                                      ichir
                                      ichirbl
                                      ichirj
                                      ichirjbl
                                      ichirk
                                      irion
                                      jojobanrb
                                      kangarool
                                      kchamptec
                                      kf2k3ps2sp
                                      killbld100
                                      kof2001ru
                                      kof2002ps2
                                      kof2k1rp
                                      kof2kxxx
                                      kof97ip
                                      kof97tp
                                      kof98bc2nd
                                      kof98eckg
                                      kof98ecky
                                      kof98ratio
                                      kof99eur2
                                      kov21022
                                      kov2dzxx
                                      kovassge
                                      kovassgn
                                      kovlsqho
                                      kovplus12dw
                                      kovplus20tx
                                      ktiger2p
                                      lazybug
                                      legionj2
                                      looptris
                                      magicstk
                                      magmaxa
                                      majest12ua
                                      majest12ub
                                      marblmd2
                                      megrescu
                                      midres2
                                      mirninjaa
                                      missile
                                      missile1
                                      missile2
                                      mmpork
                                      mooncreg2
                                      mototoura
                                      mrsdyna
                                      mslug2unity
                                      mslug3unity
                                      mslug4a
                                      mslug4lw
                                      mslug4unity
                                      mslug5unity
                                      mslug5wd
                                      mslughb
                                      mslugunity
                                      mslugxunity
                                      mspacmanlai
                                      mspactwin
                                      mushisam
                                      mushisama
                                      mushisamb
                                      mushitam
                                      mushitama
                                      namenayo
                                      neopang
                                      nitrobalb
                                      nostromo
                                      nsub
                                      nycaptor
                                      oldsplusok
                                      olibug
                                      ooparts
                                      orlegendea
                                      outfxiesja
                                      pacminer
                                      painter
                                      pcktgal
                                      pcktgal2
                                      pcktgal2j
                                      pcktgalb
                                      pengo6
                                      pinkswts
                                      pinkswtsa
                                      pinkswtsb
                                      pinkswtssc
                                      pinkswtsx
                                      playball
                                      potopoto
                                      powerbal
                                      punisherhr
                                      punisherly
                                      puyo
                                      puyobl
                                      puyoj
                                      puyoja
                                      puyopuy2
                                      pzlbreaka
                                      radarscpc
                                      raflesiau
                                      redclash
                                      redclashs
                                      redclasht
                                      redclashta
                                      redhawksa
                                      redufob3
                                      ribbit
                                      ribbitj
                                      roboarmya
                                      rodlandjb2
                                      route16d
                                      ryourano
                                      samuraij
                                      saurobl
                                      sdojak
                                      seawolft
                                      sengoku3eb
                                      sf2amf10
                                      sf2amf9
                                      sf2rk2
                                      sfiii2h
                                      sformulaa
                                      sfz2alr1
                                      sfz3mix
                                      shangkid
                                      shoottv
                                      silkwormb2
                                      skydest
                                      skysharkb
                                      sokoban
                                      soniccar
                                      sonicfgt
                                      sotsugyok
                                      spcmission
                                      speccies
                                      spf2xpri
                                      spiero
                                      spinlbrkup
                                      spool3
                                      spool3i
                                      sqij
                                      ssf2us2
                                      ssf2xjr1trn
                                      ssonicbr
                                      stkclmns
                                      stkclmnsj
                                      striderfix
                                      supershp
                                      suprmatk
                                      suprmatkd
                                      suzuk8h2
                                      suzuk8h2j
                                      suzuka8h
                                      suzuka8hj
                                      svghk
                                      tail2nosa
                                      tantr
                                      tantrbl
                                      tantrbl2
                                      tantrbl3
                                      tantrbl4
                                      tantrkor
                                      tdragonb3
                                      tempall
                                      temped
                                      temptwst
                                      tfrceac
                                      tfrceacb
                                      tfrceacj
                                      tfrceacjpb
                                      timekill120
                                      twinsqua
                                      umk3uk
                                      vbrakout
                                      vsbattlecity
                                      vscastlevania
                                      vsclucluland
                                      vsdrmario
                                      vsduckhunt
                                      vsexcitebike
                                      vsfreedomforce
                                      vsfrombelow
                                      vsgoonies
                                      vsgradius
                                      vsgumshoe
                                      vshogansalley
                                      vsiceclimber
                                      vsmachrider
                                      vsmightybomjack
                                      vsninjajkun
                                      vspinball
                                      vsplatoon
                                      vsraidbbay
                                      vsrbibbal
                                      vsslalom
                                      vssmb
                                      vssmgolf
                                      vssmgolfla
                                      vssoccer
                                      vsstarluster
                                      vssuperskykid
                                      vssuperxevious
                                      vstetris
                                      vstkoboxing
                                      vstopgun
                                      wavybug
                                      wbmlbg
                                      wbmlbge
                                      wbmld
                                      wbmljod
                                      wbmlvcd
                                      wofabla
                                      wrallyc
                                      wwallyja3p
                                      wwfmanac
                                      wwmarine
                                      xenocrisis
                                      xmvsfcph
                                      xsleenab
                                      xsleenaba
                                      zerohour
                                      zerohoura
                                      zerohouri
                                      zolapac
                                      zunkyou
                                      

                                      Reverse compare (possible renamed games or removed from FBNeo altogether):

                                      asurabusa
                                      devilfsg
                                      kf2k2ps2b
                                      kinst
                                      kinst13
                                      kinst14
                                      kinst15ai
                                      kinst2
                                      kinst210
                                      kinst211
                                      kinst213
                                      kinst214ai
                                      kof97inv
                                      kof97t2020
                                      kof98eck20
                                      kof98eckvs
                                      kof99rp2f
                                      kovassga
                                      kovplus2020tx
                                      ltorb1
                                      roboarma
                                      spcdraga
                                      spinlbrkjp
                                      umk3pb1
                                      umk3uc
                                      
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                                        barbudreadmon
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                                        @Riverstorm Let's continue the discussion from mame2003+'s topic here, i did a few changes and the raster/vector info is now available in our dats. FYI i added the geometry info last year by user's request.

                                        Afaik Killer Instinct is the only game that was ever removed from FB, so i'd assume the other games were renamed.

                                        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                          Ashpool @barbudreadmon
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                                          @barbudreadmon & @Riverstorm Sorry to interrupt - but for a personal project of mine (started aeons ago) where I am converting mame/FBN xmls t via python into csv/xlsx into human readable columns I am interested in... (short rant: ever changing xml struct, I never found a reliable source for the changes, and what each entry really mean...), but I am curious - ever since (listxml was possible) in mame - they differed in screen vector or raster, later lcd,svg and maybe others where added... but whenever mamedat/xml is refering to screen = vector, width and heigth (x/y pixel resolution) is ommited (makes sense IMHO), but FBN is providing such (well, maybe an artifact before type vector was added, as it was provided before for vector games)... is the (previous) x/y-data for vector games of any use and how could it be utilized? Or was it just a necessity out of not differing between raster/vector?

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                                          • RiverstormR
                                            Riverstorm
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                                            @barbudreadmon - That looks amazing! You're amazing!! I very much appreciate the addition and completeness of the geometry information I know you don't need to look inside a DAT to utilize it but I find myself always looking inside DAT's. There is always extraneous information that is useful beyond the core info. needed to build sets.

                                            I did a quick once over and the only thing that flagged for me was aztarac. It's listed video type is raster. I've played it several times and always think of it as a vector game but you never know.

                                            @Ashpool - Yeah that threw me too like LCD, on and on etc. but some actually had an LCD along with the regular screen.

                                            With vector games I basically think--infinite resolution (no pixels). They had a start and end point for each line but not a resolution. You probably know all that though since you been digging through DATs a long time.

                                            Barbudreadmon might know better since emulated vector games truly aren't running on vector monitors for most of us (I would assume). So with that thought they probably needs some type of "boundary" defined with the (pixel) resolution or something to that effect. That's just a guess at best but I know what you mean with it being omitted in MAME. I am curious myself now.

                                            @barbudreadmon - Thanks again cheers to you and the team--we have to get you a beer or two or three or a 6 pack for the amazing emulator and support! :)

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