What am I doing wrong with shortcuts?

Folly

Can you check what is saved in the gamelist.xml if you use the relative path ?

Might be that, when it is saved, it will work later in the menu of selecting a rom.

Just like @Thorr69 says, when you enter the relative path in emulationstation it's not in the menu of selecting a rom and therefor it could be that it uses a different directory at that particular moment and therefor the picture isn't found and displayed.

JimmyFromTheBay

@Folly said in What am I doing wrong with shortcuts?:

@JimmyFromTheBay

Can you check what is saved in the gamelist.xml if you use the relative path ?

What gets saved by my current (working) method (typing /home/pi/pics/nes/gamename.jpg) is this:

<image>~/pics/nes/gamename.jpg</image>

The non-working method just saves exactly what I type into the box in EmulationStation, eg:

<image>./nespics/gamename.jpg</image>

Typing ~/nespics/gamename.jpg with the wibbly tilde symbol doesn't work either.

Folly

@JimmyFromTheBay

Typing ~/nespics/gamename.jpg with the wibbly tilde symbol doesn't work either.

( /home/pi = ~ )

And when you put the gamename.jpg in :
/home/pi/nespics/gamename.jpg
And use :
~/nespics/gamename.jpg

Does it work then ?

JimmyFromTheBay

@Folly No.

Folly

@JimmyFromTheBay

I did some tests just like how you probably do it.

For me it works though I have to restart emulationstation when using ( I use a .png) :
./nespics/gamename.png (/home/pi/roms/nes/nespics/gamename.png)
~/nespics/gamename.png (/home/pi/nespics/gamename.png)

Just as you say, when using :
/home/pi/nespics/gamename.png
Then it works directly without restarting emulationstation.

Seems to me it's related to the "relative paths". For me it seems like an issue of emulationstation.

I have made some pics :

When using :

Or when using :

Nothing shows up after saving the metadata :

After a restart it shows up :

smartgenes

@Folly @JimmyFromTheBay It looks to me like there's a discrepancy between the two shortcuts, they don't look exactly the same to me, I think you need to add or remove a /nes/ or something like that.

Folly

@smartgenes said in What am I doing wrong with shortcuts?:

@Folly @JimmyFromTheBay It looks to me like there's a discrepancy between the two shortcuts, they don't look exactly the same to me, I think you need to add or remove a /nes/ or something like that.

Correct these are not the same, but @JimmyFromTheBay tested both options to see what worked, so I tested it too.

./nespics/gamename.png (= /home/pi/roms/nes/nespics/gamename.png)
~/nespics/gamename.png (= /home/pi/nespics/gamename.png)

smartgenes

@Folly I mean, I think Jimmy's are not correct rather than yours, but it gets a bit mind-bending thinking of the links.

Folly

@smartgenes

Could be, therefor I placed the pictures to try and simplify the problem.
Though the relative links are important here as @JimmyFromTheBay want's to type as little as possible.

JimmyFromTheBay

@Folly Hmm, nope, restarting ES after entering ~/nespics/gamename.jpg makes no difference for me. This is all most perplexing.

Folly

@JimmyFromTheBay

Very strange !

Can you post an output of an ls command, like this ?

pi@raspberrypi:~ $ ls -l /home/pi/nespics/
total 24
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 23528 Sep  1 15:19 gamename.png

JimmyFromTheBay

@Folly I also tried putting the JPG inside the images folder inside the roms folder (ie it's in roms/nes/images, no shortcuts involved) and typing ~/images/gamename.jpg still doesn't work, with or without a restart.

JimmyFromTheBay

@Folly said in What am I doing wrong with shortcuts?:

@JimmyFromTheBay

Very strange !

Can you post an output of an ls command, like this ?
pi@raspberrypi:~ $ ls -l /home/pi/nespics/
total 24
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 23528 Sep  1 15:19 gamename.png

I don't even know where to type that :D

Folly

@JimmyFromTheBay

We tried, looks like we are on a dead end.

I even used a linked directory now :
/home/pi/nespics (link to /opt/retropie/configs/all/emulationstation/downloaded_images/nes )
That work too for me.

How is it going when you edit the gamelist.xml directly ?

smartgenes

@JimmyFromTheBay Try adding -image.jpg instead to your non-link example in the sub folder images and see if that works.

smartgenes

@JimmyFromTheBay You can quit to a command line from emulationstation I think and enter the ls command there. (I have a raspbian desktop alongside with a terminal window myself)

Folly

@JimmyFromTheBay

You talked about symlinks, how do you create them ?

smartgenes

@Folly I'm pretty baffled that there's symlinks being created without a terminal or ssh... Using Windows network folder?

Also at one point there was the mention that the regular, non-link method didn't work.

So I think there may be two issues.

Understanding the general method of doing the images
Something wrong with the link you made

For 1.
A.) Make sure the game file name and image are exactly the same (no capitals, no extra fullstops, extra spaces etc)
B.) Make sure that the image actually works and is not a partial download or something - and that it is actually a .jpg not .png or something else
C.) At the moment you're editing in emulationstation, so it doesn't apply, but if you edit the gamelist.xml in a terminal, create some metadata for the game first in emulationstation, such as genre or developer, as there needs to be some data for the game to have an entry in the gamelist.xml (editing the .XML is a much better method than typing it in emulationstation).
D.) Restart emulationstation to see the changes

Check the text of those links - what you posted here has some discrepancies, e.g. one says configs another says configs.hdmi. Does your nonworking link have a typo in it? Are you sure that your nonworking link method is actually a functional link?

Make sure the relative path is ./blah/blah not /blah/blah

Make sure the image is actually where you are looking for it: in a sub folder /nes/ in your link

Am I right in thinking that you might be describing links on two DIFFERENT raspberry pis?

There was something odd you said about not being able to add a link because you didn't have permissions further down, but the roms folder is further down, so I'm not sure exactly what you meant.

Hope we can find the issue.

Folly

@smartgenes said in What am I doing wrong with shortcuts?:

@Folly I'm pretty baffled that there's symlinks being created without a terminal or ssh... Using Windows network folder?

Also at one point there was the mention that the regular, non-link method didn't work.

So I think there may be two issues.

Understanding the general method of doing the images

Something wrong with the link you made

For 1.
A.) Make sure the game file name and image are exactly the same (no capitals, no extra fullstops, extra spaces etc)
B.) Make sure that the image actually works and is not a partial download or something - and that it is actually a .jpg not .png or something else
C.) At the moment you're editing in emulationstation, so it doesn't apply, but if you edit the gamelist.xml in a terminal, create some metadata for the game first in emulationstation, such as genre or developer, as there needs to be some data for the game to have an entry in the gamelist.xml (editing the .XML is a much better method than typing it in emulationstation).
D.) Restart emulationstation to see the changes

Check the text of those links - what you posted here has some discrepancies, e.g. one says configs another says configs.hdmi. Does your nonworking link have a typo in it? Are you sure that your nonworking link method is actually a functional link?

Make sure the relative path is ./blah/blah not /blah/blah

Make sure the image is actually where you are looking for it: in a sub folder /nes/ in your link

Am I right in thinking that you might be describing links on two DIFFERENT raspberry pis?

There was something odd you said about not being able to add a link because you didn't have permissions further down, but the roms folder is further down, so I'm not sure exactly what you meant.

Hope we can find the issue.

@JimmyFromTheBay

The post is meant for you.

Btw.
I will go on vacation tomorrow so I will probably not reply for 2 or 3 weeks.

JimmyFromTheBay

@smartgenes said:

@JimmyFromTheBay Try adding -image.jpg instead to your non-link example in the sub folder images and see if that works.

No difference.

@Folly said:

@JimmyFromTheBay

You talked about symlinks, how do you create them ?

In WinSCP, just right-click in the folder, select "New" and then "Link".

@smartgenes said:

Make sure that the image actually works and is not a partial download or something - and that it is actually a .jpg not .png or something else

There's nothing wrong with the image, it works fine using the normal full links.

@smartgenes said):

one says configs another says configs.hdmi

configs is just a shortcut to configs.hdmi.

@smartgenes said in What am I doing wrong with shortcuts?:

./blah/blah not /blah/blah

I've tried every imaginable combination of slashes, dots, tildes and nothing.

@smartgenes said:

Am I right in thinking that you might be describing links on two DIFFERENT raspberry pis?

No.

@smartgenes said:

not being able to add a link because you didn't have permissions further down

Sorry, I should have been clearer - what I meant by that was further BACK, ie in the root folder where the home and opt folders etc are.

@smartgenes said:

create some metadata for the game first in emulationstation

All the games are already in gamelist.xml. (The reason I want to do it in ES is that it's MUCH quicker if you're only adding a couple of pics, because to do it by editing gamelist.xml you basically need to reboot the Pi twice, which takes about 3-4 minutes.