The "which games works" with Box86/Wine topic on the RetroPie RPI4/400

ecto

@retropi19 Direct3D is part of wine and the games should work out of the box. You'll get a much better performance, if the game has a OpenGL rendering backend. So you have to look in the game settings if you can change it from DX to GL.
Have a look at PCGW. Here, you can find lots of infos about all (?) games: which patches are needed (usually none for GOG games) and which rendering backend the game uses and so on.

Most games require DX. Wine's support for DX 9.0c is the best. Other DirectX versions might not work too well.

Usually with a bit of tinkering you can get almost any game to work, the "older" the better. I've had luck with games up to the year 2002. But sometimes you need to install original DLLs using Winetricks, or use different Wine versions (I'm mainly using 7.0) but this is another story...

fryguy1

Has anyone else tried Super Smash Land? I'm been able to get as far as the "Vs" screen before the fight with Wine on an RP4 with 8GB ram, but it always freezes before loading any actual gameplay. I've tried the -no3d and -doublebuffer parameters but no luck. Are there other tweaks that I should try?

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ChaosEffect

Hi, everyone.

I just noticed this topic (I think. I did a quick search and didn't see any posts by me 😅).

I tried tinkering with Wine/Box86 on my Raspberry Pi 4B over the summer, had a lot of trouble with it, and set it aside until now.

Back then, I was able to run the elusive Windows-only Sega Model 2 emulator but had major stability issues. I am curious if anyone else has attempted to run that emulator.

I don't have high hopes for great performance, but that emulator is well known for having good performance on weak hardware.

Aside from the odd game here and there in MAME, Model 2 emulation is limited to this specific emulator, which is closed source and also no longer developed.

ecto

@ChaosEffect Haha, actually Model 2 Emulator was the reason for me to look into box86 and wine.
Eventually I got it working but I had to use an older version (like 0.8 or something). That might have changed, as box86 has matured a lot since then.
BUT don't hope for anything remotely playable. I can only comment on "The House of the Dead" which I tried to play but its a slideshow with maybe 5fps. Maybe other games run better, but as the developer of box86 has put it: M2Em does a lot of funky stuff with DirectX.
So It's probably more of a wonder that it works at all.

Sadly, Model 2 Emulation is (and probably will always be) not a thing for the RPi4. :(

ChaosEffect

@ecto Thanks.

Rail Chase 2 was the only one I was able to actually launch in that emulator. Like your experience with HotD, the performance was pretty bad.

Rail Chase 2 is at least working in MAME, so perhaps the next pi iteration will give us something to work with in lr-mame there.

You may want to try out the Windows version of The House of the Dead or Virtua Cop. A friend had some luck running one of those but had stability issues. I wasn't able to get either to run.

ecto

@ChaosEffect Yes I have the Windows version of House of the Dead working in Wine. Try running it in a virtual desktop with the resolution of the game (640x480 I think).
Something like
wine explorer /desktop=shell,640x480 hotd.exe (I can't remember exactly from the top of my head, but I can have a look when I'm home and you're interested.)

The Windows version sadly isn't looking too hot, but still, better than nothing. I wish I could get it to work with the Sinden lightgun, but I don't know how to create the needed white borders.

I didn't know that there is a Virtua Cop release for windows. I'll go searching tonight...

DolphinCube

@hooperre said in The "which games works" with Box86/Wine topic on the RetroPie RPI4/400:

Sonic Mania (Epic?): Tries to launch. Doesn't.

Oh. Sonic Mania wont run on the Pi normally. But you can use the Decompilation of the engine to make it run. Works just fine on a Pi 4! Does require the Data.rsdk file out of the official game.

mth75

The Black Mirror ... works. ![

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windg

Black mirror is amazing adventure !

retropi19

@windg said in The "which games works" with Box86/Wine topic on the RetroPie RPI4/400:

Black mirror is amazing adventure !

Hello there im trying to make age of mythology to work correct
the game actually works and plays fine,but the main menu is unreadable and nothing is visible on it it looks like a font issue that is not only in the menu but also in the in-game dialogs,anyone encountered this issue and fix it???

shavecat

Got -
Freedom Force
Warcraft 3
Elma
IcyTower
Neighbours From Hell1-2
Starcraft
working
still cant believe the are working right ....

mth75

@shavecat Indeed ... it does!

shavecat

@mth75
YES ! ;)

mth75

The party games Atomic Bomberman and Worms Armageddon both work perfectly.

hooperre

@mth75 said in The "which games works" with Box86/Wine topic on the RetroPie RPI4/400:

Is that Worms version the same as the Dreamcast version? With the state of Windows CE games pretty poor on emulators, I'd be interested to play that, but I remember the XBox 360 version being too different for me to feel it was the same.

mth75

@hooperre Version 3.8.1 I believe? I'm not familiar with the DC version.

shavecat

Any luck maybe with
heroes of might and magic 3 ? anyone?
still getting freeze every time after playing a few min':(

kdcampo

So far, once I got it to fully install with the issue of no license folder, I have touhou 6 and 7 running fine on here. the issue I have is it plays in a tiny window in the top left. Once I figure that out, I'm going attempt to get the rest of the touhou games to run. and maybe sims 1 and 2 The touhou games are the only reason I wanted wine on my raspberry pi XD

ecto

@kdcampo Sometimes there is a switch inside the game to toggle fullscreen, sometimes pressing alt-enter helps. Sometimes you have to set the resolution of wine to the games resolution in the runcommand menu and/or your startup script. Good luck!

Sims 1 is running well, but with Sims 2 I'm hitting a wall. I tried very many things, but with no success. Supposedly it should work with dxvk, but I don't have vulkan installed, so 🤷.
If you should ever get it running, please report back! 😉

kdcampo

@ecto Honestly I figured it would be something simple like that. Thanks for the few tips. I'll be checking those later today. I wasn't expecting someone to reply with tips, I'm on reddit a lot and we all know how that goes XD, so this was just a post of me being excited to get it simi working.
That's awesome sims 1 runs well. I'm pretty new at all this. I was just surprised at being able to get this game running at all since the touhou sub I was in people were having all kinds of problems XD. When I decide to get into sims 2; If I get it working I'll def be posting here ^^