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    SuperMazut @mitu
    last edited by SuperMazut 25 Jul 2024, 09:07

    @mitu The controller wasn't plugged in, just the keyboard alone which, as I said, causes ES to give me the "ES crashed!" message. When the controller is plugged in, it doesn't do that but instead shows a black screen.

    So, are you saying it's not a screen issue after all?

    EDIT: Would you suggest to start over with a better SD card perhaps? The one I'm using was a noname one I got from the post office...

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      mitu Global Moderator @SuperMazut
      last edited by 25 Jul 2024, 09:14

      @SuperMazut said in Black screen on ES:

      So, are you saying it's not a screen issue after all?

      No, as I said it was just a slim chance that the controller would disconnect and cause the crash, but that doesn't seem the case.

      Did you test the system with a HDMI connected display ?

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        SuperMazut @mitu
        last edited by 25 Jul 2024, 09:16

        @mitu I haven't. I just ordered a microHDMI to HDMI adapter to test it.

        I edited my previous post but you replied in the meantime. Would you suggest to start over with a brand name SD card?

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          mitu Global Moderator @SuperMazut
          last edited by 25 Jul 2024, 09:24

          @SuperMazut said in Black screen on ES:

          Would you suggest to start over with a brand name SD card?

          I don't think the sdcard is at fault. You can try to reinstall again (OS + RetroPie), but I don't think that a faulty installation is the issue here (you already re-installed EmulationStation).

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            SuperMazut @mitu
            last edited by 25 Jul 2024, 09:32

            @mitu Ah, that sucks pretty bad actually. I will report back once I test the HDMI solution. It will take me a few days though until the adapter arrives.

            I'm desperate. Is there anything I can do in the meantime? I saw a few people on Youtube that could run that exact configuration with the same screen I have. Any drivers? Man, I'd pay money if someone could get it running. 🥺

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              mitu Global Moderator @SuperMazut
              last edited by mitu 25 Jul 2024, 09:33

              @SuperMazut said in Black screen on ES:

              I saw a few people on Youtube that could run that exact configuration with the same screen I have.

              With RetroPie or just RaspiOS Desktop ?
              EDIT: did you try with a RaspiOS Desktop image to see if the screen works ?

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                SuperMazut @mitu
                last edited by 25 Jul 2024, 09:42

                @mitu now that you mention it... The guy in the video used an older raspberry pi board

                As for if I tested with RaspiOS alone, I haven't. But retropie is on top of it, right? Any command I can run to run the OS?

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                  mitu Global Moderator @SuperMazut
                  last edited by 25 Jul 2024, 09:43

                  @SuperMazut said in Black screen on ES:

                  But retropie is on top of it, right? Any command I can run to run the OS?

                  RetroPie uses RaspiOS Lite, but not the desktop edition. You can flash the RaspiOS desktop edition and let it boot to see if it works fully.

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                    SuperMazut @mitu
                    last edited by 25 Jul 2024, 09:46

                    @mitu Right. I'll flash a different SD card with the full OS and test that on the current screen. I'll report back tonight.

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                      SuperMazut @mitu
                      last edited by 25 Jul 2024, 18:59

                      @mitu Oof, I have some very bad news:

                      raspidesktop.png

                      It does work fully, infact. No problems at all.

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                        mitu Global Moderator
                        last edited by mitu 25 Jul 2024, 19:04

                        That's good, since it's working. No idea why it won't work via CLI though.

                        EDIT: you can start a terminal and then run emulationstation from it. It's not a supported configuration on the Pi, but it should mostly work.

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                          SuperMazut @mitu
                          last edited by SuperMazut 25 Jul 2024, 19:07

                          @mitu Any Idea why I don't get "ES has crashed" when a controller is plugged in? It's basically just a black screen. Can I somehow see what is going on when it's in that state?

                          EDIT: By "it" you mean from the desktop version? If I can do that, is there a way to make the system boot directly into Retropie at startup and using the OS optionally when needed?

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                            mitu Global Moderator @SuperMazut
                            last edited by mitu 25 Jul 2024, 19:39

                            @SuperMazut said in Black screen on ES:

                            EDIT: By "it" you mean from the desktop version?

                            Yes, start a terminal from the desktop env and from it run emulationstation.

                            If I can do that, is there a way to make the system boot directly into Retropie at startup and using the OS optionally when needed?

                            Yes, you can boot directly into EmulationStation. Not sure what 'using the OS optionally' means though.

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                              SuperMazut @mitu
                              last edited by 25 Jul 2024, 20:02

                              @mitu said in Black screen on ES:

                              @SuperMazut said in Black screen on ES:

                              EDIT: By "it" you mean from the desktop version?

                              Yes, start a terminal from the desktop env and from it run emulationstation.

                              Hm, so let's see if I got this right. I need to install it first, then I can run it, correct? Also, is it Retropie or just Emulationstation? And if I need to install it, is there a command to do so?

                              I'm sorry if those questions sound dumb, I'm reallo not that experienced with Retropie.

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                                mitu Global Moderator @SuperMazut
                                last edited by 26 Jul 2024, 02:43

                                @SuperMazut said in Black screen on ES:

                                Also, is it Retropie or just Emulationstation?

                                From the terminal, you're running emulationstation.

                                And if I need to install it, is there a command to do so?

                                Install what, exactly ? The terminal emulator application should already be installed with the desktop image.

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                                  SuperMazut @mitu
                                  last edited by 26 Jul 2024, 06:31

                                  @mitu O...kay, well while that works, I'd still want the whole retropie package with it's features.

                                  There's a tutorial to install retropie on top of the full OS. Would that yield any different results?

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                                    mitu Global Moderator @SuperMazut
                                    last edited by 26 Jul 2024, 07:11

                                    @SuperMazut said in Black screen on ES:

                                    @mitu O...kay, well while that works, I'd still want the whole retropie package with it's features.

                                    As I said, this is an unsupported configuration on the Pi (using the desktop), so if you're pursuing this avenue you can't be expecting to have all the 'features' working.

                                    There's a tutorial to install retropie on top of the full OS. Would that yield any different results?

                                    RetroPie always sits/is installed ontop of an existing OS (be it Debian/Debian derivaties/RaspiOS), so I'm not sure what you mean.

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                                      SuperMazut @mitu
                                      last edited by 26 Jul 2024, 07:25

                                      @mitu I understand. I'll try and tinker around for a while and see what I can do. I might report back if I'm not a huge pain in the butt.

                                      Any news on an official Rpi5 retropie image?

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                                        SuperMazut @mitu
                                        last edited by 26 Jul 2024, 10:05

                                        @mitu Brother, no way! I got it working. I installed retropie on top of the OS and can launch it via crtl+alt+f1! No way that worked!

                                        Now, how do I boot directly into it?

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                                          mitu Global Moderator @SuperMazut
                                          last edited by 26 Jul 2024, 10:12

                                          @SuperMazut said in Black screen on ES:

                                          Now, how do I boot directly into it?

                                          https://retropie.org.uk/docs/FAQ/#how-do-i-boot-to-the-desktop-or-kodi

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