Coin Entry for Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back (MAME) ??

csetera

@rbaker I attempted to use lr-mame2010 to run this. It flashes red for a second and then goes to a MAME2010 menu. I did switch ROMs (in theory) to match the required version for this emulator, but it doesn't seem to be working. Sounds like maybe I should try MAME4ALL?

rbaker

@csetera Yes, 0.37b5 set. Have a look

. Not easy to control with a standard arcade stick!

csetera

@rbaker Well, that works... as you say, it is really tough to control though. Are you using the lr version or the non-lr version? It seems like your performance looks better in the video that I was seeing when I got things running. If I'm already going to be trying to tweak the configuration anyway, I can consider giving up the common libreto configuration if it helps with performance.

Now I'm wondering if it would be possible to map the analog stick on my F710 as an actual analog input rather than as a virtual DPad. That would certainly be helpful to controlling if possible.... Off to do some more reading :-)

Thanks for the help thus far!
Craig

rbaker

@csetera I'm on a Pi3, not overclocked but am using the non-libretro mame4all. So you have to configure the controls by using TAB. It has a great perofrmance but you forfeit all the benefits of retroarch etc. like scanlines, shaders, common controls. I recall the original game had those special handle type controls with rotate and forward and back so I guess that is why it is difficult to control with a standard stick. On my config above, that file is for retroarch emulators and I have the standard mame setup which is 5 for insert coin and 1 for start. For Star Wars, you have to pull the trigger to start. So to configue mame4all, I just presed TAB and went through the process with a keyboard attached but pressed my arcade controls accordingly.

There is a thread on it here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=75995.0

It goes in at number 1 for the most difficult game to play on mame due to the controls:
http://arcadesushi.com/classic-arcade-games-you-cant-play-easily-on-mame/

windale

@rbaker said in Coin Entry for Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back (MAME) ??:

It goes in at number 1 for the most difficult game to play on mame due to the controls:
http://arcadesushi.com/classic-arcade-games-you-cant-play-easily-on-mame/

That top 7 is 3 years old and nearly all those games are easily playable in MAME on other platforms. The Pi just doesn't have as good emulation. Star wars shouldn't even be on that list. On PC etc. you can control it with the mouse/trackball which is actually better, and Android MAME you can use the touch screen.

dankcushions

@windale said in Coin Entry for Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back (MAME) ??:

@rbaker said in Coin Entry for Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back (MAME) ??:

It goes in at number 1 for the most difficult game to play on mame due to the controls:
http://arcadesushi.com/classic-arcade-games-you-cant-play-easily-on-mame/

That top 7 is 3 years old and nearly all those games are easily playable in MAME on other platforms. The Pi just doesn't have as good emulation. Star wars shouldn't even be on that list. On PC etc. you can control it with the mouse/trackball which is actually better, and Android MAME you can use the touch screen.

mame2003 and advmame supports mice/trackballs. mame 2003 supports analog controllers/touchscreen (advmame too, possibly)

windale

@dankcushions said in Coin Entry for Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back (MAME) ??:

mame2003 and advmame supports mice/trackballs. mame 2003 supports analog controllers/touchscreen (advmame too, possibly)

Yes, but Star Wars etc. in lr-Mame2003 you cannot insert coins (thread title).

dankcushions

@windale

mame2003 and advmame supports mice/trackballs. mame 2003 supports analog controllers/touchscreen (advmame too, possibly)

if it works for star wars, it seems like a solution.

csetera

@dankcushions I finally ended up using mame4all (not libretro version). I used the in-game configuration to set up the analog joystick on F710 and it seems to work pretty well. I see there is more tweaking I can do in terms of sensitivity, but I can see that analog is working in this configuration.

So, at this point, I need to do some tweaking, but mame4all gives me a working emulator that accepts coins as well as works with the analog stick.

Thanks for everyone's help!
Craig

windale

@csetera I think it's best to use ADVMame for ALL vector games. I recently tried it and the resolution is a lot higher making the vector look crisp, and mouse/analogue works with all appropriate games.