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    RPi3 Win 3.1/95 Emulation In DOSBox?

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    • herb_fargusH
      herb_fargus administrators @hooperre
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      @hooperre Emulationstation incurs overhead. So if you are emulating not only a whole different architecture (x86 vs ARM) and a game... I doubt there would be any gains on something as weak as a pi.

      If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

      Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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      • hooperreH
        hooperre @herb_fargus
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        Thanks for the reply, @herb_fargus.

        Ah crap, fair enough.

        So really the only practical answer would be to try to get it running on something like Virtual Box, I'm guessing?

        4B ~ RPi PSU 5.1V / 3.0A ~ 32GB SanDisk microSD ~ 128GB USB

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        • herb_fargusH
          herb_fargus administrators @hooperre
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          @hooperre virtual box actually has its own share of display and rendering issues. Possibly will run better but can have issues.

          I have Sonic CD running on my windows 10 PC. I'll see if I can pull out my notes on how I got it running. Best bet is to try and find ports for systems you know that run (like Sega CD) or if you have to use virtual box it can function. Other idea is to find cracked exe versions that work on Windows 10 but have to be wary of viruses

          If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

          Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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          • hooperreH
            hooperre @herb_fargus
            last edited by hooperre

            @herb_fargus Thanks as always. No worries, I'll just roll with the Sega CD version.

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              backstander @hooperre
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              @hooperre
              Sonic CD Fix (Works on Windows 10):
              https://steamcommunity.com/app/200940/discussions/0/485622866448052179/

              I think all you have to do is install DirectX in Windows 10.

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              • hooperreH
                hooperre @backstander
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                @backstander Ah awesome. Thanks!

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                • hooperreH
                  hooperre
                  last edited by hooperre

                  So looking around I found people emulating 3.1 and 95 games (even up to 98, but all my 98 games work on my Windows 10 CPU ATM) with DOSBox. Win95 seems like a challenge, but 3.1 seems like it wouldn't be too awful. Anyone done it successfully (Pi or otherwise)?

                  Sorry, I feel like I ripped off a scab re-opening this question.

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                    backstander @hooperre
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                    @hooperre

                    Anyone done it unsuccessfully (Pi or otherwise)?

                    I've tried installing Win 3.1 in DOSBox on my RPi3 (using RetroPie 3.7?) and ran a couple games and they played fine. It was a pain to get everything I needed before installing. I had find my old floppies and then load up my old Win XP computer with a floppy disk drive to get all the floppy images needed than I think I had to find a mouse driver for Win 3.1 which took about an hour of Googling and Trial & Error. I kept finding DOS mouse drivers instead of Win 3.1 drivers.

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                    • hooperreH
                      hooperre @backstander
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                      @backstander Alright, cool. Probably not worth it to play Math Blaster or 'play' MS Dogs. Haha.

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                        backstander @hooperre
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                        @hooperre

                        Alright, cool. Probably not worth it to play Math Blaster or 'play' MS Dogs. Haha.

                        Lol

                        I think the only games I could really recommend for Win 3.1 would be Star Wars: Yoda Stories (Wikipedia) and Indiana Jones and His Desktop Adventures(Wikipedia). I'm pretty sure that both of these games ran pretty well on my PRi3 with a USB mouse.

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                        • hooperreH
                          hooperre @backstander
                          last edited by hooperre

                          @backstander Have you gone through the seemingly arduous process of emulating Win 95? Maybe it would be more straight forward as things like mouse drivers may be easier to find. AFIK Win 3.1 is essentially a Dos application, so it streamlines pretty well.

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                            backstander @hooperre
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                            @hooperre

                            Have you gone through the seemingly arduous process of emulating Win 95?

                            I was going to try it but I couldn't find the power cable for my USB external CD-ROM drive that I was just going to plug into my RPi3 and then I totally forgot about wanting to do this and never revisited it. I guess I could just mount the ISO file of my disc but never tried that either. I watched a lot of YouTube videos of others installing Win 95/98 on a Raspberry Pi and it didn't seam like it would play any games very well.

                            If you try it, let us know your experiences!

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                            • hooperreH
                              hooperre @backstander
                              last edited by hooperre

                              @backstander Will do.

                              I've only seen people doing it on a Pi 2. Pi 3 probably won't be significantly better. What I would do to run Age of Empires on my Pi knows no limits. Once I get my build 'final' (never) I'll definitely be moving on to trying it.

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                              • edmaul69E
                                edmaul69
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                                Im gonna have to get windows 3.1 so i can play their version of solitaire and minesweeper. Plus i want to try out indiana jones.

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                                • edmaul69E
                                  edmaul69 @backstander
                                  last edited by edmaul69

                                  @backstander can you tell me how to get sound working in windows 3.1 on dosbox on the pi. On both the pi and the pc i use the sb16win3x.iso (extracted to a folder on the pi) when i click on all the audio software stuff like the creative mixer it tells me that the .dll'are missing and the exe's are missing even though the sb16 folder and all of its contents are there and i cant get the windows sounds to work either because of this.

                                  Edit: nm i figured it out. You have To install it all in a specific way for it to work with dosbox

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                                  • edmaul69E
                                    edmaul69 @backstander
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                                    @backstander how did you get windows 3.1 out of 16 color mode and into 256 colors. I tried to play indiana jones but cant because of that.

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                                      backstander @edmaul69
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                                      @edmaul69
                                      I don't remember having problems with the color mode when I had it installed. I don't have it currently installed on my RPi. You might have to Google Windows 3.1 in DOSBox color mode.

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                                        backstander @edmaul69
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                                        @edmaul69
                                        Okay, I remember installed a graphic card drive. I followed a tutorial but I didn't save it.

                                        Here's another tutorial showing how to install the S3 video driver:
                                        http://www.howtogeek.com/230359/how-to-install-windows-3.1-in-dosbox-set-up-drivers-and-play-16-bit-games/

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                                        • edmaul69E
                                          edmaul69 @backstander
                                          last edited by edmaul69

                                          @backstander i found a nice guide with links to all kinds of stuff for this. Had to install s3 in windows setup outside of windows gui because of it looking for s3 flat driver disk otherwise. Someone else had this issue so this was the way to fix that. Got the s3 video drivers installed, ibm joystick drivers installed, so my controller works in games and even in windows.

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                                            backstander @edmaul69
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                                            @edmaul69

                                            ibm joystick drivers installed, so my controller works in games and even in windows.

                                            That's a great idea! Maybe when I revisit this, I'll install joystick drivers for Win3.1!

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