Windows 95!

edmaul69

@tyreal90 so were you having issues installing dx8? Or just an issue with the graphics card.

tyreal90

I was just having an issue installing working graphics card drivers. dx8 was working as an install

I apologize, when i said change the color of scripts, i meant on this forum thread. im not used to all the editing options on this forum. i thought it was cool how you put your scripts in black so it could be followed better by a reader.

my brother is going to try to compile dosbox daum on the pi while you and i work on drivers for the main dos box package

edmaul69

@tyreal90 ok to do the black put 3 of these ``` (right below the esc key) on the line above the line of text you want in code block and 3 of them on the line below it

HPK-de

Hi,

wow, this is an awesome interesting thread.
I´m working around with Windows 95 on my Raspberry Pi 3 for quite a while....
I had it up an running, but it was very slow , maybe i did something wrong.

But i had some success using the Exagear Desktop software, which emulates an Intel enviroment, so that you can make use of wine.... and use that for playing old games.
My experiences so far:

Anno 1602 = Works properly, but music stopps and sounds bad. Switched music off.
Unreal Tournament = Works surprisingly well with software rendering
Europa Universalis 2 = Works perfectly
Ports of Call XXL = Works perfectly

I only did all that just to get a couple of my old favourites running on Pi.
I´m just missing 1 particular game: Rollercoaster Tycoon!

The game installs, but crashes at startup... :-(
If this game can be run with Win95 i would do all the stuff to get it up and running...

edmaul69

@tyreal90 can you post your dosbox-SVN.conf? When i put an image onto the pi it has to go through configuring again on the blue and black screen but always crashes whiles setting it up. Also what version of windows 95 are you using?

tyreal90

@edmaul69

I will post it when i get home where my pi is at. I have trouble with win95 drives on the pi if i dont already have win95 set to 16 color mode. once it is in 16 color it plays like a breeze.

i also remember i have vmsize=8 and memsize=63
core=dynamic and coretype=pentium_slow

tyreal90

@HPK-de

i loved roller coaster tycoon. Dosbox run off raspbian desktop is slow as heck but dosbox run off of retropie emulates ~100-200mhz if i had to guess. This means that it has enough power to potentially handle rollercoaster tycoon and other games that dont use heavy cpu elements.

my dream is to run star craft

edmaul, what is your grail game?

edmaul69

@tyreal90 ok i have those settings. I had set it to 16 colors earlier and still crashes trying to set up. I wish it would just accept the finished version from the pc instead of trying to set it up again. It crashes while trying to set up shortcuts again.

As far as games, i kind of skipped the windows 95 era. With windows 3.11 i played doom, dune 2and 7th guest. During windows 98 i played a few games like the 11th hour (sequel to 7th guest) sim theme park, roller coaster tycoon and a lot of the first 3 nintendo emulators. I spent a lot of time with helping with ini files to get the best compatibility as possible. It wasnt until xp when i got into pc gaming.

tyreal90

can you send a screenshot? mine doesnt set up again it tells me the graphics dont work and forces me to keep reinstalling video drivers

tyreal90

@tyreal90
does yours crash during the scandisk phase?

edmaul69

@tyreal90 it fixes a about 18 of errors in scandisk. but then still wont boot up all the way. still crashes in the same spot.

tyreal90

mine never crashes in scandisk. have you tried hittng 'x' to skip it?

edmaul69

@tyreal90 itbdoesnt crash in sandisk. It crashes trying to setup windows finishing touches. On my pc i found a cause and fix. I swapped my video card from svga_3 to svga_paradise then booted. It wants the graphics drivers. Then i shutdown and switched back in the config and it is all working good. Now i need to put this file onto my pi and test.

tyreal90

Nice! somewhere, somehow.... there is a way to geth this done. We just have to find it. i never thought about switching the machine type though..... hmmmm

edmaul69

@tyreal90 the only thing i am not sure of is opengl as i dont believe retropie has it and there isnt an option in the dosbox-svn.conf. Not sure if it would have to emulate it all. I believe there is a desktop driver but i dont think its used in retropie. I am going to try switching to ega but i am reinstalling windows in the pi dosbox right now. It is much slower than doing on the pc

tyreal90

@hooperre

Thanks for the advice. You are right that they dont like to discuss windows 95.

edmaul69

@tyreal90 so i have a question? When you put the windows image on the pi did it boot straight into windows or did it try to reset it up? I cannot get it to just boot and it always reconfigures to a black screen or crashes, depending on the image i put on. I even tried reinstalling windows while on the pi. Still the same problems.

tyreal90

@edmaul69
mine does a scandisk but then it is ok. you are definately using a different version. i am using an oem cd. what is your version? Can you send a screenshot of what Windows 95 is doing when it is re configuring your system?

edmaul69

@tyreal90 oem "A" osr1 and oem "C" osr2.5 they act differently as to what dll crashes i get on setup and boot when installing on pc, but running scandisk fixes them on the pc. But then on the pi "A" will try to do the final setup and crash when it tries to re-add shortcuts. "C" will go from the "windows is preparing to be used for the first time but then goes to a black screen instead of the configuration screen. I am going to try putting an image that has not been configured by windows and see what happens. When you can, can you right click on my computer and select properties and tell me what version you are using?

edmaul69

@tyreal90 also i just found out i can boot into safe mode at 256 colors. I switched back to 16 colors in safe mode and restarted. Still a black screen. Ive even tried booting with vgaonly instead of svga_s3 still the same old thing.