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    • mediamogulM
      mediamogul Global Moderator @jamesbeat
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      @jamesbeat

      I'm worried that even a Pi3 might not be able to cope with the lowly Beeb

      There are several people at the link you provided claiming that it works well for them on the Pi2. The situation should only improve with the Pi3. If you read through the comments, it seems that the audio driver needs to be changed to "alsa" in order to get sound.

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      • caver01C
        caver01 @jamesbeat
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        @jamesbeat You should be able to get it working with AdvanceMESS.

        My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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        • mediamogulM
          mediamogul Global Moderator @caver01
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          @caver01

          It might even be preferable. Apparently Beeb has an issue that prevents discs from being changed without crashing.

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          • caver01C
            caver01 @mediamogul
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            @mediamogul said in BBC Micro on Retropie & Pi3?:

            @caver01

            It might even be preferable. Apparently Beeb has an issue that prevents discs from being changed without crashing.

            Ouch. I am not experienced with BBC Micro growing up in the USA, but I expect that behavior isn't accurate emulation!

            My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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            • mediamogulM
              mediamogul Global Moderator @caver01
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              @caver01

              Ha! I would hope not.

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                backstander @caver01
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                @caver01
                I also have not heard of the BBC Micro until here very recently.

                @jamesbeat
                What games would you recommend on this system?

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                • caver01C
                  caver01 @backstander
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                  @backstander I have certainly heard of it over the years, just no hands-on experience--something that is perhaps long overdue.

                  @jamesbeat I too am interested in suggestions about disk images worth exploring to properly represent this system.

                  I think I could do a parallel configuration to my Apple II MESS setup without much trouble.

                  My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                    jamesbeat @backstander
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                    @backstander
                    I didn't actually have that many games for my BBC (I got a Spectrum soon after) but here's a list of the ones I enjoyed:

                    The Hacker (note that this is not the same game as "Hacker" - it's a platformer a bit like Manic Miner)
                    Manic Miner
                    Jet Set Willy
                    Repton
                    Elite

                    That's about it before I got my Spectrum (the BBC was my Dad's really).

                    The BBC Micro was intended as the companion machine for a series of computer education TV programmes by the BBC.
                    The BBC commissioned the machines from Acorn.
                    A lot of the TV programmes are on YouTube.
                    I think they are called:
                    The Computer Programme
                    Making The Most Of The Micro
                    Micro Live

                    The BBC Micro was apparently the original inspiration for the Raspberry Pi project, so it's quite the travesty that it is not available through Retropie (I'm sure there must be a good reason).

                    There is actually a BBC Micro template in the Carbon theme, so someone must have been planning to include it at some point.

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                    • BuZzB
                      BuZz administrators
                      last edited by BuZz

                      Looking at a BBC port has been on my todo list for way too long. I'm a big fan of the machines and should definitely prioritise it (maybe I should spend less time on the forum, replying to retropie emails, and more time coding).

                      To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                      • mediamogulM
                        mediamogul Global Moderator @jamesbeat
                        last edited by mediamogul

                        @jamesbeat

                        The BBC Micro was apparently the original inspiration for the Raspberry Pi project

                        Really? I've never heard that before. Very keen!

                        There is actually a BBC Micro template in the Carbon theme, so someone must have been planning to include it at some point.

                        This is also the case for the Fairchild Channel F and soon to be true of the Bally Astrocade as well. I believe the idea is that once these systems are implemented, the graphics will be there waiting.

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                          jamesbeat @mediamogul
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                          @mediamogul said in BBC Micro on Retropie & Pi3?:

                          @jamesbeat

                          The BBC Micro was apparently the original inspiration for the Raspberry Pi project

                          Really? I've never heard that before. Very keen!

                          Yep, that's why the original models were called the Model A and the Model B.

                          Just like with the Pi, the BBC Model B had a higher spec than the Model A, and was much more popular.

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                            backstander @BuZz
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                            @BuZz

                            (maybe I should spend less time on the forum, replying to retropie emails, and more time coding)

                            You should probably just clone yourself and have one of you do the forum and the other one do the programming and then (so you don't get bored) after a while you and your clone can switch!

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                              jamesbeat @BuZz
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                              @BuZz said in BBC Micro on Retropie & Pi3?:

                              Looking at a BBC port has been on my todo list for way too long. I'm a big fan of the machines and should definitely prioritise it (maybe I should spend less time on the forum, replying to retropie emails, and more time coding).

                              It does stand to reason that there should be a BBC emulator in Retropie.

                              Not trying to give you extra work (the Retropie team has already done so much for this community) butI think it would be really popular.

                              While it wasn't the most widely sold of the 80's home micros, something like 85% of all schools in the UK had at least one.
                              There are a LOT of people in the UK who were exposed to these machines as children.

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                                jamesbeat @backstander
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                                @backstander said in BBC Micro on Retropie & Pi3?:

                                @BuZz

                                (maybe I should spend less time on the forum, replying to retropie emails, and more time coding)

                                You should probably just clone yourself and have one of you do the forum and the other one do the programming and then (so you don't get bored) after a while you and your clone can switch!

                                This seems reasonable.

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                                • mediamogulM
                                  mediamogul Global Moderator @backstander
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                                  @backstander

                                  You should probably just clone yourself and have one of you do the forum and the other one do the programming

                                  That never plays out well. Ultimately you'll discover that the clone is evil, which will lead to a frantic situation where both are pointing to each other as being the imposter. Take it from me, it just ruins your day when you find out that you shot the wrong one.

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                                  • caver01C
                                    caver01 @mediamogul
                                    last edited by

                                    @mediamogul said in BBC Micro on Retropie & Pi3?:

                                    @backstander

                                    You should probably just clone yourself and have one of you do the forum and the other one do the programming

                                    That never plays out well. Ultimately you'll discover that the clone is evil, which will lead to a frantic situation where both are pointing to each other as being the imposter. Take it from me, it just ruins your day when you find out that you shot the wrong one.

                                    Symbolic link then? Wait. That won't get any extra work done.

                                    My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                                    • mediamogulM
                                      mediamogul Global Moderator @caver01
                                      last edited by

                                      @caver01

                                      Symbolic link then? Wait. That won't get any extra work done.

                                      Come on now. That's just an offensive stereotype against symbolics.

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                                      • BuZzB
                                        BuZz administrators
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                                        Trust me - you don't want a clone of me :-) Poor @herb_fargus would have two people calling him up drunk!

                                        To help us help you - please make sure you read the sticky topics before posting - https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                                        • mediamogulM
                                          mediamogul Global Moderator @BuZz
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                                          @BuZz

                                          I can only imagine the blackmail material you two must have on each other.

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                                          • herb_fargusH
                                            herb_fargus administrators @mediamogul
                                            last edited by herb_fargus

                                            @mediamogul we have been discussing a mailing list or chat of sorts outside of the perpetual hangout window Jools and I have, might be nice for others to be the target of his drunk dialing!

                                            Also for the record I have been pestering Jools for the beeb since 3.0, he's probably sick of me asking by now. Though I have no doubt eben Upton would be thrilled.

                                            If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

                                            Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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