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    How to use Overclock and Mupen Core Options to significantly increase 64 game playability, quality, and stability

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      Twitch0815
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      Stay tuned to separate videos on Dreamcast, NDS, and PSP

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      • OrnitorickO
        Ornitorick
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        This seems very good!
        I'll test on my pi3 tonight!

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        • dankcushionsD
          dankcushions Global Moderator
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          @Twitch0815 said:

          When you have made those two changes, the run command menu is pretty easy to set up.
          Set your default plugin to Glide

          if you choose mupen64plus-GLideN64 via the runcommand, you're launching the standalone version of mupen64plus so all the retroarch-core-options can't have an effect. you need to launch lr-mupen64plus via the runcommand to use those options. the lr version doesn't have any plugin options in the runcommand. they're set via the mupen64-gfxplugin option in retorarch-core-options.cfg, as you've done above.

          (although lr-mupen64plus historically been worse than standalone so you probably just need to ignore it entirely)

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            Twitch0815
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            @dankcushions

            edit. mistakenly edited out trying to reploy to comment
            Something about why am I seeing differences when changing variables

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            • dankcushionsD
              dankcushions Global Moderator
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              @Twitch0815 said:

              @dankcushions Then why am I seeing such noticeable differences upon changing options? and the documentation I read showed mupen64-gfxplugin-accuracy = "high" was directly tied to Glide exclusively.

              it is. both standalone and lr can use the GLideN64 plugin, but they're controlled by different config files:

              • the mupen64plus-GLideN64 (standalone) version of mupen64plus has its GLideN64 settings in opt/retropie/configs/n64/mupen64plus.cfg
              • the lr- version has it's GLideN64 settings in the retroarch-core-config.cfg file you are editing.

              you must be mistaken about what you're running via the runcommand as there's no way that the standalone (ie, none-lr) version cares about what is in retroarch-core-options.cfg. it doesn't read that file and wouldn't understand it if it could :)

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                Twitch0815
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                @dankcushions
                Sorry edited a comment instead of replying haven't slept.

                So Are the same variables from here http://wiki.libretro.com/index.php?title=Mupen64Plus then able to be changed and modified in the opt/retropie/configs/n64/mupen64plus.cfg file and then properly applied?

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                • dankcushionsD
                  dankcushions Global Moderator @Twitch0815
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                  @Twitch0815 those options are only for the the libretro (lr-) verison of the core, not the standalone. the standalone should have equivalent options but none of them will have the exact same name in mupen64plus.cfg. they'll be something different.

                  mupen64plus.cfg is auto-populated with all the default options when you run a game on standalone so you can just tweak what's already there.

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                  • Dave BD
                    Dave B
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                    Great post I had already tried overclocking mine but this just gives me a few more things to modify thanks!

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                    • RiverstormR
                      Riverstorm
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                      Great post, the play looks great. I will be trying the N64 emulator again with these new tweaks. Have you tried Castlevania? The last time I played around with it the opening screen had some "tiling" problems and the transparent overlay to choose your character was black. Game play had some lag.

                      Just to verify the options settings above are for the lr version and not the standalone?

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                        karimi
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                        HEy Guys, does this also works wih the Pi 2 B+?!?

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                          Hyell
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                          Hello,

                          I have test your configuration today.
                          It's look good for a lot of rom, but I always have a realy bad sound with Wave Race.

                          Have you do something for this? Or it's just on my Pi?

                          I'm using a raspberry PI 3, with retropie 3.6 (install with a SD-card image)

                          If someone has an idea... :)

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                            Twitch0815 @Riverstorm
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                            @Riverstorm
                            Did you try the 4 diff emulator plugins via run command
                            I remember trying ti once did not seem bad at all I can mess around with a bit i am working with hi res texture packs right now releasing another video shortly.

                            The hardware overclocks are for any raspi 3

                            The tweaks above in the file apply to libretro version but for the life of me even though it sould seem ti improve performance on mupen64plus
                            So if you see that same thing let me know something that I am trying to determine if it is a placebo effect or not.

                            Ill update everyone as I finish my tweaking.

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                              Twitch0815 @karimi
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                              @karimi
                              The hardware overclock would not work on a pi2.
                              If you check https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/Overclocking the first top half details settings and steps to modify your pi 2

                              But if you want results like in the video you are going to need a pi 3.

                              Overclocking a 2 can get some games to work but not as well or as many as the pi 3.

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                                Twitch0815 @Hyell
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                                @Hyell
                                Have you tried hitting x and switching to a few different plugins?

                                What overclock settings are you using?

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                                  Hyell @Twitch0815
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                                  @Twitch0815
                                  Hello,

                                  Yes I have try different plugins. It's a little better with Gles2 but not as good as your video ^^.

                                  I use the same overclocking setting as you. I will testing other setting today and I will see if I can get a good results :)

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                                  • RiverstormR
                                    Riverstorm @Twitch0815
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                                    @Twitch0815

                                    Where did you get your case? I see you have some standoffs on the bottom plate so you have enough room to add a heatsink. The bottom is the memory chip and the top of the Pi is the GPU?

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                                      Twitch0815
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                                      http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SH6DBY6/ref=s9_simh_gw_g147_i1_r?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=1ZWVYP5R6KTSE6GTE017&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2437869742&pf_rd_i=desktop

                                      Just search around on amazon

                                      The 2 chips on the top are the CPU the bigger one and the USB/Nic Controlling chip
                                      Bottom chip is the shared memory GPU
                                      As I understand.

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                                      • RiverstormR
                                        Riverstorm @Twitch0815
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                                        @Twitch0815

                                        Thanks Twitch, I appreciate the link. I like the looks of that "case". I will get one ordered today. Looking forward to your next video.

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                                          Hyell
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                                          Hello,

                                          Wave race sound still working bad for me.
                                          Maybe a connectivity problem or just my old TV...

                                          In another style, I test 1080° and it's great.
                                          Just a little overclock setting :
                                          arm_freq=1300
                                          over_voltage=6
                                          temp_limit=80
                                          core_freq=500

                                          and use Glide.
                                          I don't see this game on your video, you can have a lot of fun with it :)

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                                            Twitch0815
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                                            @Hyell

                                            Try adding these two
                                            gpu_mem=450
                                            v3d_freq=500
                                            and make sure wave rice is using glide and resolution

                                            you can see how it is running on my setup in this video


                                            Starting around the 1 minute mark
                                            Both stock and with the high res texture package enabled

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