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    MAME ROW #42 - Joust

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    • caver01C
      caver01 @mediamogul
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      @mediamogul said in MAME ROW #42:

      @caver01

      Been getting in any practice against the Lich King?

      Hah! It sounds so cheesy--I really hope some of the stuff in RPO translates OK in the film.

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      • mediamogulM
        mediamogul Global Moderator @caver01
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        @caver01

        If anyone can pull it off it's Spielberg. The man had me crying for an alien that looked like a bean bag chair.

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        • obsidianspiderO
          obsidianspider @caver01
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          @caver01 said in MAME ROW #42:

          I think we need to say right off the bat that waiting on the platform for the dino bird while a Hunter is captured by a lava troll is not allowed.

          Is it bad that I have no clue what you're talking about?

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          • mediamogulM
            mediamogul Global Moderator @obsidianspider
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            @obsidianspider

            The way may father explained it is when a lava troll loves a hunter very much...

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            • obsidianspiderO
              obsidianspider
              last edited by obsidianspider

              For anyone else attempting to test Joust (I've never played it before), if you get stuck at "Factory Settings Restored" do a "Reset" (Select+B) and you should be good going forward. It looks like MAME has to set some default value the first time you play it.

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              • mediamogulM
                mediamogul Global Moderator @obsidianspider
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                @obsidianspider

                Great note. That's the case with many Midway games of the time.

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                • caver01C
                  caver01 @obsidianspider
                  last edited by caver01

                  @obsidianspider said in MAME ROW #42:

                  @caver01 said in MAME ROW #42:

                  I think we need to say right off the bat that waiting on the platform for the dino bird while a Hunter is captured by a lava troll is not allowed.

                  Is it bad that I have no clue what you're talking about?

                  Ha ha ha! Buzzard Bait!

                  Here's the deal: Back when Joust was taking everyone's quarters, I remember watching a guy play it at a bowling alley (parents were bowling, I was just the "kid" tagging along). Anyway, this dude was just standing his mount on the middle elevated platform while a lava troll was holding a Hunter. The lava trolls only show their hands, and when you fly too close to the lava, they reach up and grab your bird! Anyway, a Hunter (gray buzzard mount) was insnared by a troll, flapping and flapping to escape. It would get away for a moment, then drift off the screen to the other side only to get grabbed again, and so on and so on. This puts the Hunter into an equilibrium. They can hover, stuck in the troll's grip, forever.

                  Now, normally, you would fly your mount down there and kill the Hunter, being careful of the troll's reach yourself. The egg falls into the lava, and the level is complete. However, you can also choose to just stand on a platform. After a few moments, a pterodactyl will appear. These are difficult to kill. But, if you are standing in just the right place when it appears, it will fly directly into your lance. This will repeat, over and over and over. So, at 1,000 points per kill, it doesn't take too many pterodactyls to get an extra mount, (usually 20,000 points, so 20 kills) and another and another. Meanwhile, the Hunter is still stuck near the lava.

                  So, as a little kid wanting to play Joust, I walked up to the guy and asked what was going on. He said he was trying to get the all-time high score on this machine. He explained the details to me, only briefly getting interrupted to kill another pterodactyl every 30 seconds or so. He recognized that this particular unit (based on the label and cabinet art) had a version of the game that had not been "fixed". Apparently, this was discovered by programmers and a new version of the game was released that either introduced a change to the Hunter's behavior or, more likely, changed how the pterodactyl spawns. In any case, on certain clones of Joust, it is not possible to rack up points this way.

                  Needless to say, I did not get to play Joust that day, but I learned an interesting "cheat" that can save your game if you are only a couple thousand away from an extra mount.

                  I was proposing that we agree not to leverage this technique.

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                  • lilbudL
                    lilbud @caver01
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                    @caver01 Was this version ever archived as a ROM?

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                    • mediamogulM
                      mediamogul Global Moderator @lilbud
                      last edited by mediamogul

                      @lilbud

                      Taken from:
                      https://www.arcade-history.com/?page=detail&id=1228

                      the Green version fixes a well known bug that allowed you to endlessly kill Pterodactyls on certain levels, thus achieving incredible scores.

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                      • caver01C
                        caver01 @mediamogul
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                        @mediamogul said in MAME ROW #42:

                        @lilbud

                        Taken from:
                        https://www.arcade-history.com/?page=detail&id=1228

                        the Green version fixes a well known bug that allowed you to endlessly kill Pterodactyls on certain levels, thus achieving incredible scores.

                        Ok, so my memory was correct. It is the Solid Red Label that has the "bug". This would be the joustr.zip clone. Looks like we are safe with the parent ROM which comes out as the white/green label version.

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                        • AndersHPA
                          AndersHP
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                          This game is just... Very original! I don't know what the h*ll is going on :-)

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                          • caver01C
                            caver01 @AndersHP
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                            @AndersHP There is a nice strategy document from @mediamogul 's link above. Otherwise, you can read the instructions on-screen during the demo.

                            Joust has long been a favorite of mine. That doesn't mean I am very good at it though!

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                            • meleuM
                              meleu
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                              It seems that Baloon Fight (NES) was inspired in Joust. :-)

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                              • UDb23U
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                                Can you imagine what's available here ?
                                ;-)

                                I'm sure nobody really wanted it ... apart from our Script Grandmaster @meleu :-))

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                                • meleuM
                                  meleu @UDb23
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                                  @udb23 thanks man! Really neat!

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                                  • lilbudL
                                    lilbud @UDb23
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                                    @udb23 said in MAME ROW #42:

                                    Script Grandmaster @meleu

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                                    • obsidianspiderO
                                      obsidianspider @UDb23
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                                      @udb23 said in MAME ROW #42:

                                      Can you imagine what's available here ?
                                      ;-)

                                      I'm sure nobody really wanted it ... apart from our Script Grandmaster @meleu :-))

                                      It's almost like you guys think it's going to win this week. 😉

                                      📷 @obsidianspider

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                                      • UDb23U
                                        UDb23
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                                        @obsidianspider said in MAME ROW #42:

                                        It's almost like you guys think it's going to win this week.

                                        How do you come up with that idea ?
                                        :-)

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                                        • meleuM
                                          meleu @obsidianspider
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                                          @obsidianspider I'm wondering what will be the score of a guy who have the Joust character as his avatar.

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                                          • obsidianspiderO
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                                            This week's winner is Water Ski! Joust

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