Using save states with 8BitDo gamepads un-pairs the controller

pjft

Have you checked if that happens with a different hotkey?

Could it be that they set of keys resets the 8bitDo?

Middcore

@pjft said in Using save states with 8BitDo gamepads un-pairs the controller:

Have you checked if that happens with a different hotkey?

Could it be that they set of keys resets the 8bitDo?

I have not tried using a different hotkey. How do I change it? The NES30 controller doesn't really have any other unused buttons anyway. Edit: Could I set another button COMBINATION as the "hotkey"? Like for example R1+L1 together? Or does the hotkey have to be only one button?

I have found nothing in any documentation anywhere to suggest that the NES30 has a "reset" key combo.

meleu

@Middcore said in Using save states with 8BitDo gamepads un-pairs the controller:

It essentially makes save states unusable.

I have to disagree with this sentence. You can use save/load state through RGUI.

About the NES30, the manual says that if you press Select for 2 seconds the controller enters in paring mode. Maybe it's not your case (as you are using other combinations with no problem)...

Well, I couldn't find the on the web the same manual as the one that came with my NES30, but I remember that Start+R (and other combinations too) had a special function... Maybe Select+R and Select+L has a special and undocumented function...

Middcore

@meleu said in Using save states with 8BitDo gamepads un-pairs the controller:

@Middcore said in Using save states with 8BitDo gamepads un-pairs the controller:

It essentially makes save states unusable.

I have to disagree with this sentence. You can use save/load state through RGUI.

Could you please elaborate on how I can utilize this to make use of save states? Having a keyboard or other input device connected solely for this purpose is not really an option for me.

It appears I would need a joypad button or button combination mapped to enter the RGUI menu... and then I fear I would run into the same problem, because there appear to be some button combinations which for whatever reason unpair the controller.

meleu

@Middcore said in Using save states with 8BitDo gamepads un-pairs the controller:

Could you please elaborate on how I can utilize this to make use of save states?

Select+X in default configs. I use it frequently with my NES30 with no issues.

You'll see the RGUI menu, and you'll see an option to save/load state. Try it and see ;-)

Rave

Hello,

I have both a NES30 and a SNES30 (that are technically the same anyway), I had a problem first time I used them with strange disconnection when trying some combination.
It was due to an old firmware issue. Once updated to the last firmware the problem disappeared and the combination:

SELECT + R1 = Save state
SELECT + L1 = Load ave state

work without problem.

Maybe it is not related but check anyway if you have the last firmware on your 8bitdo controller

As mentioned by @meleu you can also use the GUI.

Hope it help

meleu

@Rave Yep, maybe it's the firmware thing.

@Middcore I forgot to mention, I tested those combinations to save/load state on my NES30 last night and everything runs fine. Check the 8bitdo site to see how to update your firmware.

Cheers.

BenMcLean

Whoah, holding select for 2 seconds to enter pairing mode is pretty bad. Like 20-30 seconds would be better (or even some more complex button combo) so you dont do it by accident.

Maybe theres custom firmware thatll change it?

Middcore

How old a firmware version are we talking about that had this problem? I got the controllers in August 2015 and updated them to whatever the latest firmware version was at the time.

The idea that Select for 2 seconds starts pairing mode is weird to me, I didn't have have to do that when I initially paired the controllers with Retropie... just had to start them in the right mode.

In any case I'll see if there's newer firmware I can install, thanks for the suggestion.

Middcore

Update: Installed the newest firmware for the controllers (4.0), whereas apparently I was previously on 2.65 or something like that.

One controller works and the bug even seems to be fixed.

The other controller now won't connect to Retropie at all.

Edit: Took me like an hour of fiddling but both controllers now connect properly and the save state bug is gone! Had a devil of a time getting Retropie to let me register and connect both pads at once for some reason.

Thanks for the suggestion to update the firmware, I had completely forgotten that I had done it when I first got the pads and I honestly wouldn't have thought a small Hong Kong company like 8BitDo would keep working on new firmware updates for so long - pleasantly surprised to be wrong. At least in the end the fix turned out to be relatively simple!