[Amiga] Amiberry + WHDLoad = Holy Grail - Amiberry's official thread

HoraceAndSpider

@youxia can you do me a favour please and via SMB or FTP navigate to your configs section of retropie.

Under amiga/amiberry/whdboot/save-data can you tell me if there are 4 folders created?

youxia

@HoraceAndSpider thanks for replying. I tried to reboot games multiple times but they still refuse to work. Why 1943 does work though? It's so weird.

Yes, there are 4 dirs in amiga/amiberry/whdboot/save-data. I was also wrong previously - there is a boot-data dir in opt/retropie/configs/amiga/amiberry/whdboot/ and it does contain that system file. I removed it but still did not get to DOS. If I removed it from that other .zip file, would that help to see some error messages? Or are there any logs I could check and report?

In fact I've just tried a few more games and 2 work: Benefactor and Bionic Commando. But the rest didn't. Tomorrow I will try to start from scratch: delete all the assorted configs and reinstall from source.

HoraceAndSpider

@youxia said in [Amiga] Amiberry + WHDLoad = Holy Grail - Amiberry's official thread:

opt/retropie/configs/amiga/amiberry/whdboot/

You shouldn’t have both the boot-data folder and the zip file. Remove the folder, especially if it is empty!

Are you sure you have all the relevant kickstart files and that they are being correctly symlinked?

Usually if only certain games work it is because a kickstart required by that game is missing...

youxia

@HoraceAndSpider Okay, got it sorted finally. I did a clean reinstall of everything but I think you might've been right - I saw there was one non-symlinked kickstart previously. I thought I had it covered, with a zillion .roms in the /BIOS, but of course managed to miss one anyway :) It's also worth noting that the official (ahem) naming has changed slightly in the last edition - eg (1993-07), not just (1993) - so these names would differ from the "common name" (not sure if this matters thou).

One thing: I was reading the amiberry doc regarding individual game configs, do I understand correctly that if I make a separate .uae config for a WHDload game it will take priority over the WHD config? I mean, I need to tweak probably most of these installs, seeing as I'm using a NTSC CRT (headache). So if I fire up a WHD game, then go into Amiberry menu, tweak and make a config, would that work on the next boot? Would I have to name it properly (same as the WHD?)
Another thing, all the .lha archives I've tried worked, but .zip ones (from another source) mostly did not.

Also, an unrelated bizarre glitch, present in the previous versions as well: If I enter a directory menu in Amiberry - eg the (...) when looking for a game in the floppy menu, the navigation becomes super-sensitive (when using a joypad) or super-slow (when using a keyboard). I use both PS3 wired pad and a USB keyboard. Ever heard of this one? (I have a theory it might have something to do with NTSC, had similar problems with Atari800 emu (super slow response on keyboard) and heard this could be the cause)

HoraceAndSpider

@youxia said in [Amiga] Amiberry + WHDLoad = Holy Grail - Amiberry's official thread:

It's also worth noting that the official (ahem) naming has changed slightly in the last edition - eg (1993-07), not just (1993) - so these names would differ from the "common name" (not sure if this matters thou).

Thanks - it doesnt matter for Amiberry's scanning, but it does matter for the guide / Wiki section, so that is useful to know.

One thing: I was reading the amiberry doc regarding individual game configs, do I understand correctly that if I make a separate .uae config for a WHDload game it will take priority over the WHD config? I

Thats correct. When you load a game direct from LHA is sets the 'game name' internally to that of the LHA file.... so when you load IndyHeat_V1.1.lhaany config oyu save will be IndyHeat_V1.1.uae

The next time you load the .lha the autobooter will do a quick check... "does IndyHeat_V1.1.uaeexist? If so, ignore the XML or the .WHD files, and load this instead. I have a mind to use this to allow quick loading of save-states in the future too.

If I enter a directory menu in Amiberry - eg the (...) when looking for a game in the floppy menu, the navigation becomes super-sensitive (when using a joypad) or super-slow (when using a keyboard).

Dimitris did some fixes to the menu navigation code to work with the GUI via AXIS control, but i have a funny feeling it didnt make it into all the GUI modules.... I'm doing some work here at the moment to make mulitple contollers work in the GUI, so i will have a look to see if the same fix needs to be applied to the file navigations, sub-menus etc

Mr Spoc

Hello all

Thank you for this guide and for the git.
I am new to this and i have a few questions if anyone can give me some guidance that would be great.

I am using a pi3 with retropie and a DIY arcade sanwa type joystick and buttons, my setup is similar to a bartop and all my Mame arcade games with my setup are working fine. I have setup amiberry through the retropi setup gui and loaded a handful of games and they run ok.

Questions:

I tried to set up the exit game button like its described here but no luck.
I cannot find the .uae files for each game all i find are two .uae files in opt/retropie/configs/amiga/amiberry/conf/
Where are the game .uae files located ? In the 2 .uae files i found like i mentioned I used key_for_quit=0
button_for_quit=7
I cannot find <RETROPIE>/roms/amiga-data/_BootWHD/Devs/Kickstarts
I searched all the directories so i cannot copy and rename the kickstarts like described but the 3 games i got they load. Why are these directories missing from my build ? amiga-data/_BootWHD/Devs/Kickstarts

Thank you.

youxia

@Mr-Spoc seems you're following the older version of the guide/advice, it was referring to previous versions of Amiberry. Things have changed recently, try reading these:
http://ultimateamiga.co.uk/HostedProjects/RetroPieAmiga/guide.html
https://github.com/midwan/amiberry/wiki/WHDLoad-Auto-booting

AnalogHero

@HoraceAndSpider One problem i see with with the way amiberry handles the quitkey combination is that whdload wont save hiscores. If done right you would have to use the quitkey defined in whdload, somehow catch this event and quit amiberry afterwards (with delay). Should i open an issue on github?

HoraceAndSpider

@analoghero said in [Amiga] Amiberry + WHDLoad = Holy Grail - Amiberry's official thread:

@HoraceAndSpider One problem i see with with the way amiberry handles the quitkey combination is that whdload wont save hiscores. I

Not true... the booter has 'NOWRITECACHE' enabled by default, so any highscores are saved instantly. This you can see the saved files for in the /configs/amiga/amiberry/save-data ... You'll also see the screen switch to black when this happens, which looks a little odd if it's say the IK+ high score screeen, but worth the 'price' imho

Without this, the behaviour is as you have stated... saves are cached until the quitkey is used.

AnalogHero

@horaceandspider Ahh i see. My fault then. I assumed it works like on real amiga :) Dont know if its slave related, but Elfmania has issues with amiberry. Although Preload is set, it looks like it does a lot of OS swaps.

HoraceAndSpider

@analoghero said in [Amiga] Amiberry + WHDLoad = Holy Grail - Amiberry's official thread:

I assumed it works like on real amiga :)

It does. I still use NOWRITECACHE on my real amigas too ;)

Dont know if its slave related, but Elfmania has issues with amiberry. Although Preload is set, it looks like it does a lot of OS swaps.

Probably this needs the default memory increased is all. Try increasing Z2 ram to 8mb (if it isnt already) and resetting the system for a reload.

HoraceAndSpider

looks like @nemo93 hasnt been online for a while, I wonder if it's possible for one of the mods to amend the first post with a few strike-throughs?

Mr Spoc

@youxia no i am not. That is the very guide i am using the latest one in your post. Again here is an extract from that very guide:
"Some games also require certain kickstart roms (Kickstart 1.3 and Kickstart 3.1 in particular) to be copied to the DEVS: section of the booting drive"

Like i mentioned in my post there is not /devs/ directory created.

Mr Spoc

I almost got it working but still cant find .uae files anywhare but in any case can someone please expalin in a bit detail how to map a joypad /arcade button to the exit game short cut please ?

tried to set up the exit game button like its described here but no luck.
I cannot find the .uae files for each game all i find are two .uae files in opt/retropie/configs/amiga/amiberry/conf/
Where are the game .uae files located ? In the 2 .uae files i found like i mentioned I used key_for_quit=0
button_for_quit=7

youxia

@mr-spoc said in [Amiga] Amiberry + WHDLoad = Holy Grail - Amiberry's official thread:

I cannot find <RETROPIE>/roms/amiga-data/_BootWHD/Devs/Kickstarts

This is a directory from the old setup, which is why I thought you're using the old guide. If you read the new one thoroughly you'll see there's no need to look for it anyway. The next sentence after the one you quoted says "Amiberry will automatically create symlinks for these files from your BIOS folder if available."

Which means, put all your kickstarts (those listed in the guide under common name) into Retropie/BIOS dir and amiberry will link them up.

There is no uae files anymore as well from the start, you need to make them yourself if you want to tweak WHD configs. Read my conversation with @HoraceAndSpider above. And default WHD Load config is now at: /opt/retropie/configs/amiga/amiberry/whdboot/hostprefs.conf

mitu

@horaceandspider Maybe a Wiki page can be created, it would certainly benefit as it would be editable by anyone and would incorporate any progress made.

Mr Spoc

@youxia thank you for rhis clarificarion now it all makes sense. That is why the games run.
I see now. Do you know How can i achive joypad game exit via a button please by any chance?
I want to be able to just quit and exit a game via the press on a joypad button or combination of buttons say "select" and "start" just like it workd for my mame arcades in the same retropie build.

Once again thank u for this clarification.

youxia

@Mr-Spoc I'm not sure, controller configs on retropie are not my forte shudder. My PS3 pad quits the game using my standard bind (left trig+X).
Check that hostprefs.conf file, there are some settings related to this I think.

Or wait for the man himself to explain better :)

HoraceAndSpider

@mitu said in [Amiga] Amiberry + WHDLoad = Holy Grail - Amiberry's official thread:

Maybe a Wiki page can be created, it would certainly benefit as it would be editable by anyone and would incorporate any progress made.

like this one?

https://github.com/midwan/amiberry/wiki

HoraceAndSpider

@mr-spoc said in [Amiga] Amiberry + WHDLoad = Holy Grail - Amiberry's official thread:

I want to be able to just quit and exit a game via the press on a joypad button or combination of buttons say "select" and "start" just like it workd for my mame arcades in the same retropie build.

THis is exactly what should happen - look in the 'custom controls' section and if you click the Amiga port your controller is connected to you will either see [R] or [N]

The [R] means [Retroarch] and allows start+select to work as normal.

If you have a retroarch controller set up correctly and it still doesiujnt work, it could be a bug and you will need to provide details of your controller but please check you have followed: https://github.com/midwan/amiberry/wiki/Setting-up-Input-Controllers first?