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    FBA vs. MAME

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    • Pussyfoot
      Pussyfoot last edited by

      I was under the assumption that FBA in general was the preferred emulator over Mame2003. However, I have found a bunch of games that work much better on MAME than FBA:

      openice.zip (Doesn't work in FBA)
      acrobatm.zip (Doesn't work in FBA) (Use mame2010 for sound)
      Arknoid (MAME allows joystick controls)
      Arkanoid Returns (Ver 2.02O 1997/02/10) (Too slow in FBA)
      Crazy Kong (Doesn't work in FBA)
      Donkey Kong (Buggy in FBA)
      Donky Kong jr (missing sound in FBA)
      galpani2.zip (Doesn't work in FBA)
      gauntlet.zip (buggy in FBA)
      invaders.zip (no sound in FBA)
      zaxxon.zip (no sound in FBA)
      mk3.zip (Doesn't work in FBA)

      The compatibility charts in the wiki isn't very accurate. It lists a lot of games as not working that do, etc. Anyone else have other games that work better in one than the other?

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      • Pussyfoot
        Pussyfoot last edited by

        Forgot to mention the context of this comparison: This is on a Raspberry Pi 3. PC performance is much different for both.

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        • Pussyfoot
          Pussyfoot last edited by

          Add all the Puzzle Bobble games on the list of working better in MAME than FBA.

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          • dankcushions
            dankcushions Global Moderator last edited by

            @pussyfoot said in FBA vs. MAME:

            The compatibility charts in the wiki isn't very accurate. It lists a lot of games as not working that do, etc

            the compatibility list is user-generated. if you find a game that works, then please change the entry in the list.

            however, you seem to be comparing like for like with FBA vs MAME - these two emulators (actually there are several FBA and MAME emulators) use different romsets. no FBA emulators run midway mortal kombat or open ice games, for example.

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            • Pussyfoot
              Pussyfoot last edited by

              I'm mostly comparing the latest FBA with the the 2003 MAME. However, in one case, the 2010 version of MAME worked best.

              QBert and QBert Cubes have better audio in MAME.

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              • caver01
                caver01 @Pussyfoot last edited by

                @pussyfoot Different strokes for different folks. I might play more FBA if it had better support for cocktail auto-rotation in vertical games. I also wish it had a TAB GUI menu for remapping controls as I often do. Also, analog controls are just fantastic now in lr-mame2003, but AdvanceMAME is still king for vector.

                I guess I am saying that when you are talking about the "preferred emulator" there are many factors that play into that preference. Only one of them is performance.

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                • Pussyfoot
                  Pussyfoot last edited by

                  In the cases I'm listing, it's critical problems that affect all users. If the game doesn't run or is missing sound, then it's a slam dunk.

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                  • caver01
                    caver01 @Pussyfoot last edited by

                    @pussyfoot that’s true. Looking back at your list these have problems in one but might work in another. It’s when it works in multiple that it becomes subjective.

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                    • Pussyfoot
                      Pussyfoot last edited by

                      Here are some more ones that work in mame vs. FBA:

                      aso
                      bioship
                      blkheart (Use MAME 2010)
                      cupfinal
                      hachamf (still doesn't work in MAME, but loads)
                      nbahangt
                      sbm
                      tdfever (Works better in MAME 2010, but screen is stretched)
                      touchgo
                      umk3
                      wwfmania

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                      • dankcushions
                        dankcushions Global Moderator @Pussyfoot last edited by

                        @pussyfoot the list is 1000s long. mame aims to support every known arcade board (with later mames closer to that then earlier ones), whereas fba is only a tiny subset (but with a goal of speed rather than preservation).

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                        • sirhenrythe5th
                          sirhenrythe5th @dankcushions last edited by

                          Not to forget that FBA was once meant to emulate one single game: Afterburner from SEGA.
                          So we should be thankful for every game that was added.
                          Petsonally i love and use MAME.
                          MAME32FX on PC, AdvanceMame on the Pi + FBA for NeoGeo to have an own section in ES.

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                          • UDb23
                            UDb23 @sirhenrythe5th last edited by

                            @sirhenrythe5th said in FBA vs. MAME:

                            FBA was once meant to emulate one single game: Afterburner from SEGA.

                            Interesting ! Was not aware of that.

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                            • Pussyfoot
                              Pussyfoot last edited by

                              I remember when FBA was needed to emulate CPS1, CPS2, and NEOGEO because they weren't playable under MAME. MAME was more accurate, but FBA was usually faster. Of course, this was over a decade ago...

                              I was a little surprised to see games that work fine in FBA on Windows may not even work on the Raspberry Pi.

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                              • dankcushions
                                dankcushions Global Moderator @Pussyfoot last edited by

                                @pussyfoot said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                I was a little surprised to see games that work fine in FBA on Windows may not even work on the Raspberry Pi.

                                can you give an example please?

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                                • pjft
                                  pjft @sirhenrythe5th last edited by

                                  @sirhenrythe5th I remember using it indeed for Galaxy Force. I didn't know it had started with After Burner.

                                  I also remember using Raine to play Taito games such as Space Gun on my PC... Indeed, grateful for all the progress on MAME and FBA, as well as the amazing things the Pi can accomplish on such a small chip.

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                                  • Pussyfoot
                                    Pussyfoot @dankcushions last edited by

                                    @dankcushions galpani4

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                                    • dankcushions
                                      dankcushions Global Moderator @Pussyfoot last edited by

                                      @pussyfoot said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                      @dankcushions galpani4

                                      according to the compatibility list this works but has slowdown, is that correct? because that kind of thing is expected on a raspberry pi - they are far slower than any PC or laptop from the last 15+ years.

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                                      • pjft
                                        pjft @Pussyfoot last edited by

                                        @pussyfoot I'd try AdvMame for games that exhibit slowdowns on FBA or MAME 2003. It will usually work surprisingly faster.

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                                        • Pussyfoot
                                          Pussyfoot @dankcushions last edited by

                                          @dankcushions It doesn't even start up on the Pi.

                                          @pjft I experimented with Advancemame for vector games. It works much nicer. I'm disappointed that Advancemame is separate from the other MAME options. I don't like having two MAME menus on RetroPie.

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                                          • pjft
                                            pjft @Pussyfoot last edited by

                                            @pussyfoot you can merge all FBA, Mame and AdvMame in the arcade folder, and configure different ROMs to use different emulators.

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