Pong and Ikaruga

Alturis

Looking for some input from the community on getting a couple roms working.

Pong from 1972 (Arcade) for one. The only rom I have been able to find for this is for MAME 0.184 which none of the lr mame, mame4all, or advmame emulators appear to support. I tried installing MAME 2016 in hopes it might just work anyway but nope.

The other is Ikaruga. Supposed to be the number one rated shmup on at least one internet ranking. The only emulator list that has this even listed is MAME 2010 but trying that just sat at a black screen for a long time and then finally quit back out.

Maybe I just need to hunt a bit harder for the roms at the right MAME version?

Basically just wanting to know if I should expect to get these working or not.

jonnykesh

@alturis I will look into the latter but PONG has never been emulated, as actual PONG because it wasn't a ROM, but a physical set of switches etc that cannot be emulated without the actual hardware. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/08/unemulated-eleven-classic-arcade-games-you-cant-play-at-home/
However, there is this, which is a homebrew for the Intellivision from a well respected site "AtariAge" http://atariage.com/forums/topic/250999-the-official-ultimate-pong-thread-intellivisionrevolution/page-15

jonnykesh

@alturis Do you mean "Ikaruga"? You are not going to play that on any Pi or any MAME on a Pi. Certainly not at full speed.

Alturis

Yes Ikaruga. My bad.

Edit: Edited the thread title and my original message.

jonnykesh

@alturis Not gonna run on a Pi, mate.

Alturis

I see. Well, that is exactly the answer I was looking to find. Thank you.

Edit: Funny. I guess in both cases the titles are on opposite ends of the window of playability on a Pi. Too early, and too late.

Darksavior

@alturis You can try the dreamcast version of Ikaruga, but you'll have to overclock. Even then, expect slowdowns. I don't remember how playable it was.

UDb23

@alturis Video olympics for the Atari 2600 offers "Pong" alike games.
You can use Vice to emulate.
I bought an actual Atari 2600 with paddles on ebay. ;-)

Fruitybit

I second @jonnykesh here, ultimate pong is the best pi pong I’ve found (try saying that after a couple) and believe me, I’ve been trying to play pong since the beginning!

Alturis

@jonnykesh @Darksavior @Fruitybit @UDb23
Thanks, guys. I wasn't really interested in playing pong much it is just one of those nostalgia games that I wanted in my cabinet like Rip Off. If it isn't a representation of the original thing then there isn't much point.

BuZz

@udb23 do you mean Stella? Vice is for C64 and plus 4 etc.

UDb23

@buzz oops, Stella of course !!

UDb23

@buzz You can play Pong on the vic20 too ;-)

edmaul69

@fruitybit ultimate pong is great. I am actually one of the people credited in the manual. Me and rev were really wanting to have the best pong / ball and paddle game we could. So we scoured the internet trying to find every games version we could find to be able to create this awesome game. Its cool that you can change the colors and turn the music on and off because personally me and rev wanted it to be where we could play it just in black and white like the old pong clone games that we both have lying around. For anyone who hasnt tried this game out I definitely recommend it.

Alturis

@edmaul69 said in Pong and Ikaruga:

@fruitybit ultimate pong is great

I looked this up but wasn't sure what system it's for?

Edit: Nevermind I guess this is the Intellivision version people were talking about.

Fruitybit

@edmaul69 Ha! That’s awesome:) I love it, being able to play black and white, being able to turn music off is a true bonus, without a doubt the best version I’ve come across. Good on you:)

edmaul69

@fruitybit yeah the programmer is probably the best retro game programmer on the planet. He did an awesome job on this game. I harassed programmers and game producers for a long time to make a pong clone. Luckily rev got into producing intellivision games and had the same dream to have an awesome pong game made.