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    Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released

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    • lilbud
      lilbud last edited by

      I'm going to skip this one. I see no real point in buying one. I've been using my custom PC more for emulation instead of using the pi. So until they release a pi that can run N64 and other later systems at full speed, I'll hold out.

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      • SgtJimmyRustles
        SgtJimmyRustles last edited by

        @lilbud said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:

        I'm going to skip this one. I see no real point in buying one. I've been using my custom PC more for emulation instead of using the pi. So until they release a pi that can run N64 and other later systems at full speed, I'll hold out.

        That, or if one of your pi's dies.

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        • spruce_m00se
          spruce_m00se last edited by

          I will get one for a new build, but i doubt its worth upgrading to.

          I guess kodi may run better on it. (ooooh KODI, watch out for the KODI police)

          I too have been using other hardware recently for higher end systems, I find the wii to be cheaper than a pi and great with all nintendo systems up to, well...... the WII.

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          • herb_fargus
            herb_fargus administrators last edited by

            I bought it. But then again I have a horrible pi addiction. I need help.

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            • tiagop
              tiagop last edited by

              Can someone test demanding games to see if it's worth it? For example PSX games with high resolution, N64, Dosbox..

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              • lilbud
                lilbud @spruce_m00se last edited by

                @spruce_m00se said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:

                I too have been using other hardware recently for higher end systems, I find the wii to be cheaper than a pi and great with all nintendo systems up to, well...... the WII.

                I like using the Wii more than the pi for emulation. It can handle much more. But I also like using my computer because I can run almost everything with no slowdown. But I still use the pi for when I want to play on a big tv instead of a monitor.

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                • SgtJimmyRustles
                  SgtJimmyRustles @herb_fargus last edited by

                  @herb_fargus said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:

                  I bought it. But then again I have a horrible pi addiction. I need help.

                  Pitervention is required.

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                  • lilbud
                    lilbud @tiagop last edited by

                    @tiagop Its only a 0.2 Mhz bump in clock speed. Don't get your hopes up for improved emulation. You'd have to wait for a Pi 4 if you want a significant bump.

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                    • BuZz
                      BuZz administrators @lilbud last edited by BuZz

                      @lilbud 200Mhz :-) or 0.2Ghz

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                      • tiagop
                        tiagop @lilbud last edited by

                        @lilbud Oh yeah, my bad. I thought the RPI3 had 1.0 GHz instead of 1.2 GHz!

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                        • tashman
                          tashman @herb_fargus last edited by

                          @herb_fargus

                          Me too. This morning's order will bump me up to 11 pii.

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                          • Sensi
                            Sensi last edited by Sensi

                            Will the Pi3 b+ work with retropie 4.3 or will there need to be support added?

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                            • dsstrainer
                              dsstrainer @herb_fargus last edited by

                              @herb_fargus I'll join you are RPi Anonymous :)

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                              • fabio78
                                fabio78 last edited by

                                This one is all about overclock. 1.4Ghz is what most base Pi3s are able to achieve whilst remaining stable. Considering the new model’s base speed is already 1.4, it should hit 1.6 comfortably, perhaps even 1.8 taking into account the better “thermal management” and the use of a heat sink+fan little combo. On these terms it’s actually a rather decent upgrade over the base model with stock clock.

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                                • PiBoy
                                  PiBoy @fabio78 last edited by

                                  @fabio78 said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:

                                  This one is all about overclock. 1.4Ghz is what most base Pi3s are able to achieve whilst remaining stable. Considering the new model’s base speed is already 1.4, it should hit 1.6 comfortably, perhaps even 1.8 taking into account the better “thermal management” and the use of a heat sink+fan little combo. On these terms it’s actually a rather decent upgrade over the base model with stock clock.

                                  I am not so convinced of that. The original RPi 3 is underclocked for the sake of overheating. The clockspeed on the 3 B+ is now at the original speed for the CPU, 1.4 GHz, and features a heat spreader to mitigate overheating. According to the RPi's site, above 70°C it will throttle down to 1.2 GHz, and above 80°C it will throttle even lower, just like the original RPi 3. There does not appear to be any indication there is a higher overclock potential, considering you will still need a heatsink/fan combo anyway when overclocking. People who overclock the current RPi 3 still hit somewhere between 1.4-1.6 GHz, with a fan. That speed increase doesn't make a big difference in terms of emulator support, in case you were wondering. N64 is still not tenable.

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                                  • Riverstorm
                                    Riverstorm last edited by

                                    It looks to have a real IHS on the CPU. Metal on metal cooling. If the emulation is CPU heavy overclocking the GPU probably won't gain much but a GPU heavy game might benefit a little from overclocking the ARM and both may potentially benefit slightly from RAM overclocking.

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                                    • MSP430
                                      MSP430 last edited by

                                      Damn, I have a Pi1B and a Pi0, convinced myself that a Pi3B would only bring PSX from playable to nice and N64 from not playable to sometimes playable. Expected Pi4B in February 2019.

                                      Now I am quite tempted ...

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                                      • fabio78
                                        fabio78 @PiBoy last edited by

                                        @piboy said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:

                                        @fabio78 said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:

                                        This one is all about overclock. 1.4Ghz is what most base Pi3s are able to achieve whilst remaining stable. Considering the new model’s base speed is already 1.4, it should hit 1.6 comfortably, perhaps even 1.8 taking into account the better “thermal management” and the use of a heat sink+fan little combo. On these terms it’s actually a rather decent upgrade over the base model with stock clock.

                                        The original RPi 3 is underclocked for the sake of overheating. The clockspeed on the 3 B+ is now at the original speed for the CPU, 1.4 GHz

                                        I did't know that. Bummer...

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                                        • Riverstorm
                                          Riverstorm last edited by

                                          @fabio78 said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:

                                          The original RPi 3 is underclocked for the sake of overheating. The clockspeed on the 3 B+ is now at the original speed for the CPU, 1.4 GHz

                                          I was reading an article about the improvement in "manufacturing" techniques allowed the Zero to be released stable at 1GHz where as the same chip 4 years prior on the Pi 1 was only stable at 700MHz.

                                          Maybe in the past 2 years they were able to do the same between the 3 and + and get it stable at it's full potential. Which means less overclock room. I imagine vcore specs are basically the same. Which adds speed which in turn adds heat.

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                                          • paravox
                                            paravox @PiBoy last edited by

                                            @piboy said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:

                                            @fabio78 said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:
                                            People who overclock the current RPi 3 still hit somewhere between 1.4-1.6 GHz, with a fan. That speed increase doesn't make a big difference in terms of emulator support, in case you were wondering. N64 is still not tenable.

                                            I wish I could get my 3 over 1.4. Anything past 1.35 ghz spits out memory errors during cpuburn. Even so N64 emulation seems to have bigger problems than simply throwing enough raw power at it.

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