Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released

Darksavior

@dhruv-meena I just found out my mame2003plus compile crashes are related to overclocking to 1500 despite temps being in the 60s and games having no stability issues. Lowered to 1475 and it's been fine since. I doubt any stability "records" will be broken.

Dhruv Meena

Well....guys

If you put a dedicated power management chip outside of broadcom SoC.... It will make temp go way lower already.

So they base clock was easily 1.4ghz without IHS.

The issue would be that it is little different that old pi3, so it will take some months to stabilise.

That's why raspberry pi organization said that pi3 would still be in market....just because something which work on pi3 may not run in pi3 plus..

Just wait for a dedicated stable image of retropie...

Or a new emulator with more stability

banstead

I notice the specs on the RaspberryPi website has an obsolescence statement saying the Model B+ will remain in production until January 2023. So I suppose it safe to assume there won't be a Pi 4 for at least 5 years.

dankcushions

@banstead not at all. the pi1 is still in production.

nex86

I'm kinda slow with this.
Is the Pi 3 B+ already supported or no?

mediamogul

@nex86

It is, yes. You can download it here.

Ashpool

@clyde said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:

Does someone know if the 3B+ still comes with disabled USB boot like the 3B does? The 3B can be set to USB boot once via an OTP bit (One Time Programmable) which can be checked (not set, don't worry) by this command:
vcgencmd otp_dump | grep 17
On the 3B, the output is 17:3020000a if USB boot is enabled. Though I don't know if it's the same value for the 3B+.

That is the Output on my R3 B+ (Out of the Box)... and USB Boot is working fine at least with Raspbian (Stretch).
Though, I don't know why the Stick I just have written the latest RetroPi to doesn't boot (Guess I'll should try it again with the same Media I used with the Raspbian Image).

Clyde

@ashpool Thanks for your report. I'd also be interested if your boot problems are linked to that particular stick.

Ecks

If they ever do make a Pi 4 i hope it ends up having support for more consoles like the Gamecube and PS2.

quicksilver

@ecks unfortunately I don't think this will happen. The pi is basically an outdated smart phone for $35. My modern smart phone doesn't run those systems that well. I think we are a long way off from a $35 computer running those systems. I think much more likely is a pi4 that can run most N64, Dreamcast and psp games

Ecks

@quicksilver said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:

@ecks unfortunately I don't think this will happen. The pi is basically an outdated smart phone for $35. My modern smart phone doesn't run those systems that well. I think we are a long way off from a $35 computer running those systems. I think much more likely is a pi4 that can run most N64, Dreamcast and psp games

my LG G5 is able to play PS2 games pretty good which is a modern phone so who knows maybe we will see that happen if they ever do make a Pi 4.

Ashpool

@clyde Can't say that it was that particular stick :/ The same Stick (Platinum USB2.0 32GB) used for the Raspbian failed, an SD Card that was fine with Raspbian as a Card and via an USB Card Reader failed with RetroPi written to it on that Reader (of course not in the Card Slot), a SanDisk USB3.0 32GB Stick worked. Don't ask me for any commons or cause, at the moment my observations bear neither rhyme nor reason to me.

P.S.: Further Investigations/Discussions of that topic may better be placed outside of this Thread. ...

SuperPiBOy

@nogolem
Hi , after 2 months using your RPI 3B+, does it heat up a lot like its small brother RPI3B ? What is the max temperature you notice ? it could be interresting to know for handheld projects.
Merci à vous. ( j'écris en anglais sinon je vais me faire gronder sur le forum :) )

Ecks

@superpiboy said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:

@nogolem
Hi , after 2 months using your RPI 3B+, does it heat up a lot like its small brother RPI3B ? What is the max temperature you notice ? it could be interresting to know for handheld projects.
Merci à vous. ( j'écris en anglais sinon je vais me faire gronder sur le forum :) )

The max i have seen people stress test their Pi 3 B+ for was up to 70 degrees without a heatsink and fan and with a heatsink on the Pi was like 2-3 degree less so i find the cooling on it runs better.
I should be getting my 3B+ soon which i am going to have a fan on mine which i have seen it goes as high as 53 degrees.

SuperPiBOy

@ecks
Hi, thank you for you reply. 65-70°C is too high for me to my handheld projects. I wonder how much degree RPI3B+ is in normal using condiiton with a heatsink? for example in playing PS1 game ? without overclock.

Darksavior

@superpiboy Maybe you can get lower temps from underclocking a pi3b+ from 1400 to 1200. You can also check to see if this heatsink might fight in a handheld https://www.kintaro.co/products/kintaro-custom-heatsink

Ecks

@darksavior said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:

@superpiboy Maybe you can get lower temps from underclocking a pi3b+ from 1400 to 1200. You can also check to see if this heatsink might fight in a handheld https://www.kintaro.co/products/kintaro-custom-heatsink

If he wanted something under clocked why not just stick with the Pi 3 and not the 3B+ then and also that heatsink is designed for the Pi 3 and not the 3B+ since the 3B+ has those 4 additional pins and also the WiFi chip in it does get in the way of it as well which if they do en up cutting it down to fit inside of the 3B+ the thermals would be a little higher more or less around 65 degrees instead of the 62 degrees it shows on there.

Ecks

@superpiboy said in Raspberry Pi 3 B+ released:

@ecks
Hi, thank you for you reply. 65-70°C is too high for me to my handheld projects. I wonder how much degree RPI3B+ is in normal using condiiton with a heatsink? for example in playing PS1 game ? without overclock.

This video

will give you an idea for the temps on the Pi 3B+