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    mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support

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    • DarksaviorD
      Darksavior
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      Will you guys take a look at system16 sometime? Games like Moonwalker are only playable with the correct audio in mame2000 with a lower end pi. Mame2010 and fba has huge requirements that still make a pi3b+ struggle.

      Just about all the system16 games have audio bugs of some sort in mame2003. Some are unnoticeable until later like in the 2nd level of Shinobi.

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      • markwkiddM
        markwkidd @Darksavior
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        @darksavior said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

        Will you guys take a look at system16 sometime? Games like Moonwalker are only playable with the correct audio in mame2000 with a lower end pi. Mame2010 and fba has huge requirements that still make a pi3b+ struggle.

        Have you tried the Moonwalker bootleg in mame2003/mame2003-plus? I've had good luck running it on low-power systems, although not any rpis specifically.

        Please post what you know about the system16 audio bugs in the mame2003-plus github repository Issue section. https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro

        Someone will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think there is an issue report for this in the repos for either versions of mame2003.

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        • DarksaviorD
          Darksavior @markwkidd
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          @markwkidd I've tried the bootleg, yes. Michael Jackson and everything else has a higher pitch.

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          • markwkiddM
            markwkidd @Darksavior
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            @darksavior said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

            @markwkidd I've tried the bootleg, yes. Michael Jackson and everything else has a higher pitch.

            I think I have only ever played the bootleg version on an emulator. I had no idea!

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            • DarksaviorD
              Darksavior @markwkidd
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              @markwkidd I asked arcadez back when he was active, and my misreporting of a bug he possibly made (but didn't) + the pressure of breaking the main mame2003 core often enough to cause drama, made him abandon the possible research in going to backporting.

              I haven't tried the games in a while, I'll retry them in plus and report my findings on the github if you like.

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              • markwkiddM
                markwkidd @Darksavior
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                @darksavior said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                I haven't tried the games in a while, I'll retry them in plus and report my findings on the github if you like.

                That would be great, thanks.

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                • RiverstormR
                  Riverstorm
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                  @markwkidd - Thanks for the options list that's really helpful.

                  When in mame_keyboard mode <not> operators now work in a Libretro core which is wow.

                  The Bally/Midway games in 2003+ are great. A couple of classics that I was glad to see working are Rampage and Xenophobe. I moved them back over from AdvMAME and having them running with a decent shader. It's great playing Donkey Kong with full audio vs. missing the stomps, running, etc.. :)

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                  • ClassicGMRC
                    ClassicGMR
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                    TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRR!!!!!

                    Growing older is mandatory. Growing up is optional!
                    Enjoy the ride!

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                    • mediamogulM
                      mediamogul Global Moderator @Riverstorm
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                      @riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                      I moved them back over from AdvMAME and having them running with a decent shader.

                      With all the advancements the core has seen, I've been considering doing the same. Especially now that we have arcade RetroAchievements. One, thing though; 'Donkey Kong' shouldn't have any problems playing samples in AdvanceMAME. I play the game a lot and they all play fine. Were you on one of the older versions?

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                      • mediamogulM
                        mediamogul Global Moderator @ClassicGMR
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                        @classicgmr said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                        TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRR!!!!!

                        Do you prefer the hard stuff, or are you a root beer guy?

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                        • ClassicGMRC
                          ClassicGMR @mediamogul
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                          @mediamogul
                          Root Beer... PHUH
                          Suntory... PHUH

                          Gimme a Bud! :)

                          Growing older is mandatory. Growing up is optional!
                          Enjoy the ride!

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                          • mediamogulM
                            mediamogul Global Moderator @ClassicGMR
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                            @classicgmr

                            Ha! I hear you. If I ever owned any one cabinet besides my MAME cab, it would definitely be that. It's freakin' gorgeous.

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                            • ClassicGMRC
                              ClassicGMR @mediamogul
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                              @mediamogul Tapper, Funhouse Pinball, Mania Challenge. I'd love to own just those three. :)

                              Of course my X-Arcade stays too....

                              Growing older is mandatory. Growing up is optional!
                              Enjoy the ride!

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                              • mediamogulM
                                mediamogul Global Moderator @ClassicGMR
                                last edited by mediamogul

                                @classicgmr said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                Funhouse Pinball

                                Funhouse fun fact; Rudy was actually voiced by Midway legend Ed Boon who was of course one half of the creative force behind 'Mortal Kombat'. He does a damn good job too. 'Funhouse' is easily in my top five pinball favorites and maybe even number one. As odd a choice as it might be, I actually hold Gottlieb's 'Rescue 911' in such high regard that it might even muscle out the likes of 'Addams Family', 'Jurassic Park' and 'Indiana Jones'. That's the thing with pinball machines though. You end up bonding with the physical play style of certain ones that just make sense to you on a fairly personal level.

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                                • RiverstormR
                                  Riverstorm
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                                  @mediamogul - I like reading the fun facts! It worked perfect in Advmame. For vector games it's incredible and also good for "regular" games but some games look awful with the built-in simulated scan line options. I'm not sure what those video options are called.

                                  I've grown attached to shaders is the main reason but I also shut off shaders as they create a moire pattern when snapping that isn't present when playing.

                                  I have been redoing all my snaps which is taking a lot longer than I thought. I keep getting caught up in just one more level...just one more! :)

                                  Earlier I meant <not> mapping inputs (not operators) work cleanly now which is nice.

                                  @markwkidd - I see reset is in the options will it get enabled by chance down the road?

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                                  • markwkiddM
                                    markwkidd @Riverstorm
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                                    @riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                    @markwkidd - I see reset is in the options will it get enabled by chance down the road?

                                    I'm afraid I don't follow - which option?

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                                    • RiverstormR
                                      Riverstorm @markwkidd
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                                      @markwkidd said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                      I'm afraid I don't follow - which option?

                                      Sorry I meant in the TAB menu using mame_keyboard. Reset is there but I couldn't get it to work.

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                                      • markwkiddM
                                        markwkidd @Riverstorm
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                                        @riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                        @markwkidd said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                        I'm afraid I don't follow - which option?

                                        Sorry I meant in the TAB menu using mame_keyboard. Reset is there but I couldn't get it to work.

                                        Ah ok now I follow, that makes sense.

                                        It's an oversight for Reset to still show up in the MAME mapping menu -- it isn't mappable there anymore. :-\

                                        In the case of Reset, the libretro feature has the exact same functionality so the native MAME version is already removed from mame2003-plus. You can reset from the RA Quick Menu or with a RetroArch hotkey. The default hotkey is H.

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                                        • RiverstormR
                                          Riverstorm
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                                          @markwkidd said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                          It's an oversight for Reset to still show up in the MAME mapping menu -- it isn't mappable there anymore. :-\

                                          Ah, I saw it there and thought maybe they added it back for completeness of classic features or something. Thanks Mark!

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                                          • markwkiddM
                                            markwkidd @Riverstorm
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                                            @riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                            @markwkidd said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                            It's an oversight for Reset to still show up in the MAME mapping menu -- it isn't mappable there anymore. :-\

                                            Ah, I saw it there and thought maybe they added it back for completeness of classic features or something. Thanks Mark!

                                            I'm glad you mentioned this, I thought this was already gone. Now I have cleaned it up so other folks don't run into this question!

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