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    • RiverstormR
      Riverstorm
      last edited by

      @Stuart2773 - Ok, I see what they are doing now. Thanks for all your help and I look forward to "testing" it on a bigger screen. :)

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      • RiverstormR
        Riverstorm
        last edited by

        @Stuart2773 - I did a bit of testing and the only emulator that has native support is lr-fbalpha within RetroPie. I don't have any of the newer ones like mame2014 or mame2016 loaded so they may work on those.

        You would need to do some cleanup in the gamelist.xml due to RetroPie identifies dkongx11 as Donkey Kong II - Jumpman Returns (V1.1) (Hack). It must have a ROM to database file lookup.

        But it does work OTB and runs well in lr-fbalpha.

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        • Stuart2773S
          Stuart2773
          last edited by

          new overlays added

          Moon Cresta
          Mat Mania
          Monster Bash
          Mad Planets

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          • Stuart2773S
            Stuart2773
            last edited by

            new overlays added

            1941
            Contra
            Gaplus
            Xevious

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            • Stuart2773S
              Stuart2773
              last edited by Stuart2773

              SPACE INVADERS & FROGS (Projected Bezels)

              Here's a couple of overlays ive been experimenting with to replicate the original arcade projected game onto a static background, i had to tweak the images to try and create a 3D perspective.

              You will need to set the Opacity via RetroArch to the follwing:-

              Retroarch quick menu / onscreen overlay / overlay opacity = 0.50
              (0.50 seems to be a good compromise)

              @UDb23 not sure how to get it to work but is there anyway to have the bezel sitting behind the game? so that the ingame graphics are not obscured by the bezel. like how the "mame .lay files work?"

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              hope you enjoy them, more to come soon........

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              • UDb23U
                UDb23 @Stuart2773
                last edited by UDb23

                @stuart2773 said in Arcade 16:9 Overlays (1920x1080):

                not sure how to get it to work but is there anyway to have the bezel sitting behind the game? so that the ingame graphics are not obscured by the bezel. like how the "mame .lay files work?"

                Unfortunately Libretro does not support backdrops.
                As you correctly pointed out Mame does (with its own lay format) and can be implemented in Mame 2010 onwards but it makes the games too slow.
                We are (kindly) "pushing" advancemame's developer to make the older Mame artwork (.art) work correctly. We could then run the classics games using "backdrop" in advancemame.

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                • J
                  johnWick @Stuart2773
                  last edited by

                  @stuart2773
                  thanks for sharing this post

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                  • Stuart2773S
                    Stuart2773
                    last edited by Stuart2773

                    New "projected" bezels

                    Space Invaders Deluxe / Part 2
                    Discs of TRON / Environmental
                    Triple Hunt (Witch Hunt)
                    Boot Hill

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                    • Stuart2773S
                      Stuart2773
                      last edited by Stuart2773

                      new overlays added

                      Kageki
                      Galaga 88
                      Shao Lins Road
                      Berzerk
                      Fix it Felix Jr.

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                      0_1533223507005_shaolins-ovl.png

                      0_1533223534555_berzerk-ovl.png

                      0_1533223559534_felix.png

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                      • J
                        jozzy1
                        last edited by

                        wow, really amazing works man. I especially like the projected ones (space invaders)… very cool :D

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                        • GreenHawk84G
                          GreenHawk84
                          last edited by

                          Could you make the Contra one with a smaller "game information" section? It covers the nice jungle art!

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                          • JesseBlueJ
                            JesseBlue @Stuart2773
                            last edited by

                            @stuart2773 said in Arcade 16:9 Overlays (1920x1080):

                            Retroarch quick menu / onscreen overlay / overlay opacity = 0.50
                            (0.50 seems to be a good compromise)

                            Why don´t you do it in the PNG itself? This way the borders could be at 100% and the screen at 50%.

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                            • Stuart2773S
                              Stuart2773 @GreenHawk84
                              last edited by

                              @greenhawk84 said in Arcade 16:9 Overlays (1920x1080):

                              Could you make the Contra one with a smaller "game information" section? It covers the nice jungle art!

                              If i made the "game information" any smaller it would become unreadable on screen.

                              @jesseblue said in Arcade 16:9 Overlays (1920x1080):

                              @stuart2773 said in Arcade 16:9 Overlays (1920x1080):

                              Retroarch quick menu / onscreen overlay / overlay opacity = 0.50
                              (0.50 seems to be a good compromise)

                              Why don´t you do it in the PNG itself? This way the borders could be at 100% and the screen at 50%.

                              It doesn't work like that, its not the png screen part that needs to 50% its the actual game screen sprites that need to be 50%. The overlays actually sit behind the game play field,

                              by reducing the game play field to around 50% this makes it semi transparent, so the overlay png behind it shows though.

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                              • GreenHawk84G
                                GreenHawk84
                                last edited by

                                @Stuart2773, it's okay, "game information" or "how to play" lol, it's your stuff (and it's good work) but I thought I would send one nitpick.

                                Thanks for the nice bezels!

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                                • johnodonJ
                                  johnodon
                                  last edited by

                                  @Stuart2773 @UDb23 It would be awesome if you guys could collaborate and have one big happy repo. :D

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                                  • JesseBlueJ
                                    JesseBlue
                                    last edited by JesseBlue

                                    @stuart2773 said in Arcade 16:9 Overlays (1920x1080):

                                    It doesn't work like that, its not the png screen part that needs to 50% its the actual game screen sprites that need to be 50%. The overlays actually sit behind the game play field, by reducing the game play field to around 50% this makes it semi transparent, so the overlay png behind it shows though.

                                    I don´t think that´s correct. The overlay (as the name suggests) sits above the gameplay. Libretro Documentation: Overlays

                                    This is your modified Space Invaders overlay with 35% opacity on the screen and 100% on the bezel :

                                    Retroarch Setting:

                                    video_scale_integer = "true"
                                    input_overlay_opacity = "1.000000"

                                    0_1534623169292_invaders_ovl.jpg

                                    The overlay png:

                                    0_1534630118866_invaders_ovl.png

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                                    • UDb23U
                                      UDb23 @JesseBlue
                                      last edited by UDb23

                                      FYI
                                      Overlays are of course placed on top of the game graphics.
                                      As already said libretro cores do not support Backdrops and these would be needed for Space Invaders background. Probably Advancemame will correctly support these in the future.
                                      Concerning Libretro overlays, the setting for overlay opacity in the cfg file impacts the opacity (read : inverse of transparency) of the whole overlay image.
                                      PNG files can contain transparency information (JPG cannot) and therefore to "simulate" a backdrop you apply transparency % (by using a graphics/photo editor software) to the part of the overlay image that is supposed to be "below" game graphics.
                                      This makes the game graphics stand out even if the overlay is on top.

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                                      • Stuart2773S
                                        Stuart2773 @JesseBlue
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                                        • Stuart2773S
                                          Stuart2773 @JesseBlue
                                          last edited by Stuart2773

                                          @jesseblue

                                          cheers :O, i really didn't think it was possible to get the same effect but you proved me wrong, thanks for pointing me in the right direction, im going to attempt and try to recreate what you done on some other overlays i did.

                                          thanks again for the heads up, much appreciated :)

                                          UPDATE: i tried but with no luck :(

                                          Space Invaders PT2, BootHill, Discs of Tron, in photoshop i set the screen image to 35% Opacity, the bezel sides were already set at 100%, saved the image, transferred to the pi, loaded the games, set the RA input_overlay_opacity = "1.000000"

                                          but no luck, i wasnt able to see the game, the overlay just obstructed everything,
                                          what am i doing wrong? its some silly oversight that im completely missing.

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                                          cheers.

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                                          • JesseBlueJ
                                            JesseBlue @Stuart2773
                                            last edited by JesseBlue

                                            @stuart2773: It doesn't work because that png has no transparency at all. ;)

                                            I'm not sure what went wrong, but maybe you want to check out my psd file of the Space Invaders overlay: invaders.psd

                                            It consists of two layers: The bezel at 100% opacity and the background at 35%.

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