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    Why separate Neo Geo system from Arcade?

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    • barbudreadmon
      barbudreadmon @Clyde last edited by

      @Clyde said in Why separate Neo Geo system from Arcade?:

      Is it the same with integrated bios files when built by Clrmamepro with the option "Separate BIOS Sets" unchecked

      Yes, it won't even look at neogeo.zip if it can find the bios files in the game romset

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      • Cook1e_mr
        Cook1e_mr last edited by

        @barbudreadmon said in Why separate Neo Geo system from Arcade?:

        Don't do that, there are other required files in neogeo.zip, i suggest removing only neo-po.bin instead.

        I did this originally but the emulator was still loading in Japanese. I therefore think something else is at play. so i was trying to rule out as many variables as i possibly could.

        @Clyde said in Why separate Neo Geo system from Arcade?:

        Yes, it won't even look at neogeo.zip if it can find the bios files in the game romset

        hadn't considered that, will have to check my archives

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        • Cook1e_mr
          Cook1e_mr last edited by

          @Cook1e_mr said in Why separate Neo Geo system from Arcade?:

          @Clyde said in Why separate Neo Geo system from Arcade?:

          Yes, it won't even look at neogeo.zip if it can find the bios files in the game romset

          hadn't considered that, will have to check my archives

          OK checked and this is my problem, the BIOS is within the ROM archive, need to work out how to remove that easily now.

          thanks for the help

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          • Clyde
            Clyde @Cook1e_mr last edited by

            @Cook1e_mr said in Why separate Neo Geo system from Arcade?:

            OK checked and this is my problem, the BIOS is within the ROM archive, need to work out how to remove that easily now.

            Remove the bios from the game roms? One relatively easy way is to rebuild the romset as "non-merged" with Clrmame and the option "Separate BIOS Sets" turned ON in the scanner and the rebuilder.

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            • CapNinja
              CapNinja @thelostsoul last edited by

              @thelostsoul after using this tutorial for a few months, the comment from our fellow above made me think about games in japanese. I was just accepting that with suspension of belief and now I'm trying to put in english, but I'm having this problem:
              If I change to "Dipswitch below"and then "AES ASIA", automatically all roms will change to MVS.
              If I do the changes one by one, my choice will be maintained. But I don't want to open every single game for this.
              Help, please.

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              • thelostsoul
                thelostsoul @CapNinja last edited by thelostsoul

                @CapNinja My reply may be disappointing, so sorry to say that. Above we discussed this issue and we couldn't find a solution. Changing to "Dipswitch" means, that the setting from the individual cabinet (Dipswitches) will be used. Then you can have individual settings for each single game, but off course this is not what we want.

                Currently it seems to be a limitation by the emulator settings not to be able to set the specific BIOS version system wide.

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                • CargoRunner
                  CargoRunner last edited by

                  Just wanted to thank you for this fantastic and comprehensive piece of work. It is EXACTLY what I want to do and you have done all the hard work and research to put this together. Thank you so much for sharing your work

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                  • thelostsoul
                    thelostsoul @CargoRunner last edited by

                    @cargorunner What a nice reply, hehe. Just a little disclaimer, as someone pointed it out in the replies here. There is a thing I could not solve and maybe a reason not to do all this stuff here. Apparently the games are all in Japanese then, not the US version, because RetroArch/RetroPie lack the ability to specify this thing. The last replies in this thread talk about this "issue".

                    To change the BIOS to English, you have to change emulator setting to "Use BIOS specified in BIOS dipswitch below". The problem is, the dipswitch setting is per game and you would need to set it for each individual game and save the settings for each game separately. That is not what I want to do, therefore the games stay in Japanese version.

                    Also have in mind this tutorial is for an older version of the emulator and RetroPie and Raspberry Pi 3. I just want to bring this to your attention. Always do a backup before following the instructions. And have fun tinkering. :-)

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                    • philcsf
                      philcsf last edited by

                      Been setting this up the past few days, cheers from the advice.

                      I already knew about "core_options_path" after some long google searching the other month, but wish it was advertised more on the RetroPie docs. Useful for many things, such as turning on BLARGG filters for some platforms (SMS, GEN) but not for others (GG) while using the same emulator.

                      I have all my BIOS files merged into the individual ZIPs rather than using an external neogeo.zip. All I needed to do was force that folder's core options to "AES Mode", then delete neo-po.bin (Japanese AES BIOS) from each ZIP in that folder. If it's missing, FBNeo falls back to neo-epo.bin (Asia/English AES BIOS) automatically.

                      I can even re-add neo-po.bin to certain ZIP files by preference, such as getting blood in the Metal Slug games.

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                      • thelostsoul
                        thelostsoul @philcsf last edited by

                        @philcsf Great to know its working! Deleting the Japanese BIOS withing the files would be my last resort, as there is no other way to accomplish the goal within the emulator settings.

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