Backdrops in mame2003-plus

UDb23

@Clyde It seems that the 1600x1200 ovl is not aligned in your case, even if it's just the 4:3 game area taken from the 1080p ovl (!?)

Anyway I just updated both versions of the ovl with the radar "round border" being slightly higher positioned.
Can't make it further higher as I'd have to reduce the "radar" text even more; wouldn't look nice.

As long as the radar area is basically fully visible I think it's ok. Even real arcade cardboards were not perfectly aligned if you look at the images and videos you can find on the web.

Unfortunately it would be really tough for me to precisely align the ovl image to your 1600x1200 by trial & error based on step by step screenshots you would take ... sorry.

Clyde

@caver01 That's a definite point you're making. I plan to do that, like I did for Omega Race. I'm just used to do one step at a time to avoid issues that I can't pinpoint to a specific change if I'm making too many of them at a time.

@UDb23 Thank you very much. Alas, your new version just moves the radar cutout a miniscule amount that I can only spot if I view both screenshots in quick succession.

I think that the "RADAR" text would have to be removed completely to get a correct radar cutout. But I also think that it's not really worth the effort.

Riverstorm

@Clyde - That actually makes good sense and I like your idea better. I will move and link it. I like raspi2png but it would be nice to have it work more like an old school TSR so we could capture full screen without using SSH.

I am definitely not a power user on any linux platform so any tips are welcome. I am mainly Windows focused with a bit of linux due to our switch fabric (our switches are linux based). I work on firewalls (Fortigate & Palo Alto) switches (Cisco & Extreme), routers (Cisco), virtualization (VMWare), storage (NetApp) and a whole lot of fiber connectivity. Our campus is several blocks so not huge but a good sized network with several hundred PC's. I can build you a solid, secure & redundant network. ;)

I can talk subnetting, routing, routing protocols, switching, firewalls, etc. all day long but I find firewalls the most interesting as they do so many functions nowadays and aren't just about security anymore. A close 2nd is virtualization. It's such incredible technology.

If you come across something better than raspi2png for a decent full screen capture you'll have to let me know.

Clyde

@Riverstorm I looked around a bit on the web and didn't find a better solution than raspi2png that doesn't need an xserver. Interestingly, most raspi2png guides suggest putting it in /usr/local/bin, but I still prefer my variant for said reasons. 😊

I looked for a way to bind raspi2png to a key press, but without luck except for this post from @meleu (I'll have to leave for work soon, so I don't have the time for a thorough search), but I stumbled upon a way to name the screenshots by the date and time they're taken (source):

raspi2png -p $(date +snapshot-%Y%m%d-%H%M%S.png)

It will name the screenshots snapshot-20190207-072613.png, snapshot-20190207-072637.png and so on. Maybe you or someone else will find this useful.

I'm not done with the shortcut, though. I've just opened a thread asking for solutions.

edit: If I ever need advice on bigger networks and routing, I may get back to you about it. 😉 I'm not a Linux pro either, maybe a "power user" since I made Ubuntu my main system back in Dezember 2006 as the long-sought exit from Windows (I moved to Kubuntu years ago when Gnome 2 was discontinued). I keep a Windows 7 around for some Windows games and programs that don't run well in WINE, but I only start it very, very seldom. So, my Windows knowledge may correspond to your Linux knowledge. 😌

grant2258

@clyde can you take a screenshot with Ra make sure gpu enable is on (if you dont know what this is its already on) and post here I just want to confirm you ra is outputting this res if it is all add this resolution to the current new ones ive set for vectors.

"Vector resolution (Restart core); 1024x768|640x480|1280x960|1440x1080|original");

this is what we have so far dont mind adding your resolution this means mame will render at that resolution it also means you dont need to turn bi linlear filtering on when you used your default res

Clyde

@grant2258 I can do that after I get back from work, stay tuned.

grant2258

@clyde i just put a pull request in to add it for you. Just keep an eye on it for being merged then just update.

https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/pull/656

if you havent updated in a while please clear your mame2003-plus/cfg as updates to the input system (dual configs on for legacy and one for none legacy) where implemented so you can swap modes without messing the other one up.

suggested setting for you or anyone else using a monitor native resolution

mame2003-plus_vector_antialias = "enabled"
mame2003-plus_vector_beam_width = "1"
mame2003-plus_vector_flicker = "20"
mame2003-plus_vector_intensity = "1.5"
mame2003-plus_vector_translucency = "enabled"

and for you mame2003-plus_vector_resolution = "1600x1200"

UDb23

@Clyde radar text: it’s not a matter of effort, if you prefer centered radar and no text I can remove the text and place the radar higher. Just let me know. For the 1080p version I prefer to keep the original cardboard ‘integrity’.

Clyde

@grant2258 Here are two screenshots, the first one with vector resolution 1024x768 and the second one with 1600x1200. I don't know what gpu enable is, so according to you it should be on. ;)

The 1600x1200 one looks much more crisp, so thank you very much for adding that vector resolution. What exactly is the resolution "original"?

My mame2003-plus/cfg is pretty full with .cfg files. What will I lose if I delete or rename it? And which modes to swap do you mean?

@UDb23 I prefer beauty over integrity, so I won't miss the "RADAR" sign if the radar will be correctly cut out instead. :)

UDb23

@Clyde will work on it on WE then.
And related UV versions too.

Riverstorm

@Clyde - You're a scholar, thanks for the date and other tips. I think it will be very useful and will simplify needing to rename every file. The icing on the cake would be getting raspi2png to trigger with a keyboard shortcut and not needing a "laptop" solely to SSH and get a screenshot.

@UDb23 - I thought of you the other night watching a movie named Polar who's main protagonist was a retired cold war assassin named "The Black Kaiser". :)

Also they just closed us down due to weather, no snow, sheer temps and high winds are creating blizzard conditions. We are supposed to bottom out with cold tonight again. We are getting pounded with cold pretty hard this year. It sure doesn't feel like global warming. ;)

Clyde

@Riverstorm said in Backdrops in mame2003-plus:

The icing on the cake would be getting raspi2png to trigger with a keyboard shortcut and not needing a "laptop" solely to SSH and get a screenshot.

@mitu already posted a tip about keyboard solution in my other thread, but alas, I won't have time to test it before the weekend.

We are getting pounded with cold pretty hard this year. It sure doesn't feel like global warming. ;)

*dons his scholar hat* Why Global Warming Can Mean Harsher Winter Weather :)

Take care, I wish you all the best.

Riverstorm

Clyde you crack me up! I was being facetious but at least now I may articulate the difference between weather and climate. That last paragraph about "wasting" fossil fuels by turning up the heat and just when I need it the most. =/

We have wind gusts up to 50MPH/80KHM so it's creating severe ground blizzards. It looks like it's snowing and foggy-ish due to snow being whipped around. They even shut down the airports. We are at a stand still until the wind dies down.

If you don't modify your inputs (TAB menu) from the defaults wiping your .cfg files shouldn't matter. They are created when you launch a game (even when you don't change anything from the defaults).

If you have a lot of customization you might want to screenshot each one before wiping them. Well just the ones that have been changed.

The different modes I can't explain very well.

grant2258

Well the cfg files made are for game inputs dips and sound mixer settings ect. I myself cant explain none legacy mode all it does is hide the tab menu so you can set anything in mame you will need to ask mark how you set stuff up with no tab menu and its not mapped in mame because the config files are seperate.

All i did was separate the modes so they save there own config files. You need to restart when switching from legacy and none legacy all this done was cause an extra layer of confusion but lets people setup there mame the normal way(legacy) the tab menu or(none legacy) marks way.

You need to delete you old mame20030plus cfg files the format of the cfg changed to be compatible with mame078 format.

Clyde

@Riverstorm @grant2258 Thanks for your explanations. I've renamed my cfg directory to cfg.backup if I may ever need one of the old files. It will go into my backup the next time, then I'll delete the cfg.backup from the original. The incremental backup is set to delete old snapshots after six month, that should be enough time to notice anything that I'll miss.

UDb23

@Riverstorm said in Backdrops in mame2003-plus:

...high winds are creating blizzard conditions.

That's a really tough winter this year in your area!

With all that cold already, I wound't watch a movie called Polar ! :-))

Clyde

@UDb23 said in Backdrops in mame2003-plus:

With all that cold already, I wound't watch a movie called Polar ! :-))

Or Snowpiercer. 😄

UDb23

@Clyde lol

Riverstorm

@UDb23 @Clyde - There's definitely some irony in watching a movie named Polar in this weather such as this. It's a Netflix original that has a lot of gratuitous violence but also some dry comical moments that are pretty funny. It definitely won't be winning any awards but then I hardly watch any award winning movies. I like the one off B-movies. ;)

I was just curious did you guys grow up speaking English as well as your native language. I always thought it was true when they say that you really understand a "second" language when you get the subtle jokes.

UDb23

@Riverstorm Haven't heard of that movie, will check.
Concerning languages I grew up as a kid speaking german and italian; so english is actually 3rd ;-)
I studied it at school for many years of course. When I started learning I was really interested in understanding the lyrics of the (english) songs I loved (no google or internet in the 80's): listening and re-listening and writing down. Sometimes luckily the lyrics were printed on LP's covers. Learned quite a lot on top that way.
As I use english at work on a daily basis it still have chance to find and learn new english expressions. In the forums too as you know :-).

Getting back to backdrops: going to work on Gorf this WE using @grant2258's tips to get better res by "extending" the BD boundaries outside of the game area (forcing mame to generate higher res)