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    • quicksilverQ
      quicksilver @A Former User
      last edited by

      @John_RM_70 Wont be a mali GPU. Raspberry pi uses broadcom videocore. So likely will be called videocore 5 or something like that.

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      • ?
        A Former User @quicksilver
        last edited by

        @quicksilver Oh, I agree. My list is more of a dream list, rather than a wish list.

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        • thelostsoulT
          thelostsoul
          last edited by thelostsoul

          I wouldn't mind if the starting price would be higher than the previous entries. The previous cpu was "Broadcom BCM2837B0 VideoCore IV" and "Cortex-A53 (ARMv8) 64-bit SoC @ 1.4GHz". Wikipedia page about VideoCore: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VideoCore

          Spec:

          • CPU: Cortex-A75 (ARMv8-A) 64-bit SoC @ 2.8GHz
          • SOC: BCM7251
          • GPU: VideoCore V (500Mhz? compared to 400Mhz on Pi3)
          • 16GB fast internal space
          • DDR3 2GB RAM (compared to DDR2 1GB)

          Connections:

          • 4K/60Hz HDMI output (or dual 1080p/60Hz output)
          • 2 x USB 2.0 Type A (our current for legacy)
          • 2 x USB 3.2 Type C (the smaller new type)
          • 1 x SATA revision 3.0 (6 Gbit/s) (probably not)
          • onboard power and reset switch (probably not)
          • dedicated RCA Composite Video output (probably not)

          50 $/€ initial price tag (instead 35 of the previous). Ok, this is more like a wishlist. I even don't know if these cpu and gpu and soc would work together and if this is realistic in that price point. But hey, I expect groundbreaking changes without compatible with older version.

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          • quicksilverQ
            quicksilver @thelostsoul
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            @thelostsoul I think they have confirmed it's going to be roughly at the same price point as previous models. If you browse the raspberry pi forums you can find comments from the engineers that give subtle hints about what may or may not be part of the next generation of pi. One comment I saw said they even have a rough idea what the pi5 will look like.

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            • herb_fargusH
              herb_fargus administrators
              last edited by

              I'm really hoping they release in February as they usually do. Cause I'm impatient. Obviously the biggest hope when it comes to emulation is faster processer/better GPU. I'd imagine it would have at least 2 GB of ram

              If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

              Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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              • quicksilverQ
                quicksilver @herb_fargus
                last edited by

                @herb_fargus I'm hoping for a February release as well. Looking at past release dates, the vast majority were in February so hopefully they stick with that schedule.

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                • ?
                  A Former User @quicksilver
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                  @quicksilver I don't get why they want the same pricing. Why not go for a Tiered pricing within a range of Pi machines ? High-end = Pi 4B+, mid range = 3B+, low-end = Pi Zero....etc... I would gladly, as probably would a lot, pay for a premium 4B+ model double the current price, IF it had good specs and plenty of RAM.

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                  • thelostsoulT
                    thelostsoul @A Former User
                    last edited by thelostsoul

                    @John_RM_70 I wonder also the exact same thing. I don't get it, there would be so many people wanting that I assume. That would catch all the higher priced alternatives. Here the lineup how they are currently compared to what I wish Pi 4 would be. I think it would fit perfectly. Even if the Pi 4 had a price point of 35 dollars, it would be much better than last entry, as it does not try to be compatible. Combine that with a higher price and higher performance.

                    • Pi 4B = high end with lot of features and performance for enthusiast (50 dollars)
                    • Pi 3B+ = recommended main entry for most (35 dollars)
                    • Pi 3A+ = same features and performance as 3B+, but smaller with less connections (25 dollars)
                    • Pi Zero W = ultra compact form factor, limited features and weak (10 dollars)

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                    • quicksilverQ
                      quicksilver @A Former User
                      last edited by

                      @John_RM_70 I'm curious myself. You should post that on the official raspberry pi forums. The mods/engineers seem very active there. I'd be curious what they had to say about it.

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                      • ?
                        A Former User
                        last edited by

                        It would be good to get a official response on why they want to keep with the norm, at least we would know the official direction they want to go. Although, I doubt they'll answer any questions until a product announcement is made.
                        Still, I think it's safe to say that "something" is going to be released this year.

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                        • D
                          Duro
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                          TechRepublic just posted a new interview with Upton that says the Pi4 isn't coming until 2020-2021 and will feature a whole new system on a chip.

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                            Duro @Duro
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                            @Duro Here is a link to the article: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/inside-the-raspberry-pi-the-story-of-the-35-computer-that-changed-the-world/

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                            • thelostsoulT
                              thelostsoul @Duro
                              last edited by

                              @Duro I remember that I read this article. Maybe it does not come out yet, don't plan anything.

                              Upton says the ambition is to release the board in the 2020-2021 timeframe.

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                              • quicksilverQ
                                quicksilver @Duro
                                last edited by

                                @Duro let's hope it's a misprint ;)

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                                • mituM
                                  mitu Global Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Maybe Upton is just trolling...

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                                  • ?
                                    A Former User
                                    last edited by

                                    Yeah, I remember Upton doing a few interviews back in 2017, and he said they were looking at a 2019 release for the Pi 4.
                                    So, like Mitu said, he's either trolling, or they've hit some problems.

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