The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!
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@dankcushions said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
@hiulit said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
VideoCore VI graphics, supporting OpenGL ES 3.x
this is HUGE news I think. it should mean fullspeed and accurate emulation for:
- n64
- dreamcast
- saturn
and better emulators for
- playstation (beetle-hw)
all of these required GLES 3.x for full support. GLES 2.x was always holding pi3 back, for the most part.
i should think the new CPU should allow for full speed current MAME also, but we will see...
Accurate Saturn emulation? That's amazing!
But with which emulator? The only accurate Saturn emulator I know of is Mednafen and it requires a modern fast desktop CPU...
As for N64, the latest updates on M64P indeed bring excellent accuracy on HLE, I guess we should consider the N64 fully emulated on the Pi now...
Also I'd really love to see SEGA Model 1 & 2 emulation but I guess we're not that fortunate due no available open source emulator options out there.
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@matchaman said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
Accurate Saturn emulation? That's amazing!
But with which emulator? The only accurate Saturn emulator I know of is Mednafen and it requires a modern fast desktop CPU...yaba-sanshiro is built for ARM phones so it will work. it's accurate enough.
libretro kronos is also a possibility - a fork of the above. it is not so ARM-centric, though.
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very exciting, looking forward to the things that come :)
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Oh My God, it's like christmas time allover again 😍
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Days like this remind me to thank the mods here lol and everyone involved in the project!
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Anyone who wants the latest info on the pi 4 can check out this thread on the pi forums. Looks like the engineers are answering questions there as well.
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=243372
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https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/raspberry-pi-4-specs-benchmarks/
benchmarkshttps://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1560/1473/files/Inside_Raspberry_Pi_4.pdf?2142
a sort of FAQ about pi4, nice document -
According to an RPI engineer, they now doubled the SDcard module speed which I agree was pretty slow in earlier models :)
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1483978&sid=5f3ca0bac2a86c22e8b9e0441f0b58ac#p1483978No. Double.
DDR50 is now supported and the controller now supports ADMA.While it is not eMMC, it is still a welcomed improvement!
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@frezeen nice link! The pi 4 looks to be a massive step forward in performance.
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@frezeen Not sure about the comments of it struggling with Youtube. Chris @ ExplainingComputers.com released a video today and it seemed to playback Youtube full screen without an issue. The benchmarks do seem so verify what he said 2-4 times faster depending on what you are doing.
His video is here for those that are interested.
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Another comment of interest from the Official RPI Forums:
Buster will release with a 32-bit userland, as backwards compatibility for all previous models is important. The Pi 4 kernel uses LPAE but eventually we'll ship a 64-bit kernel.
That's great news for the near future, specially for arm64 dynarecs such as in
lr-mupen64plus-next. -
Can anyone speculate on whether or not the extra ram might be needed for emulation purposes? I imagine the 4 gb of ram might be a bit overkill for our uses but what about the 2 gb ram model?
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real boot from usb in future with no tips... pi4 has a onboard eeprom for bootrom, nice one for a system on usb 3.0 ssd
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@quicksilver said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
Can anyone speculate on whether or not the extra ram might be needed for emulation purposes? I imagine the 4 gb of ram might be a bit overkill for our uses but what about the 2 gb ram model?
My thoughts are go with the 4gb and you will be covered, it isn't much more money. If you go with the 1 or 2gb and then find out there are improvements with the 4gb you have to replace the whole thing.
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@quicksilver on the other handside: would 4GB harm in any way?
IMO 55$ is not that much.
So it is a serious question: could it be a disadvantage to have 4GB as a Retropie-User for any reasons? -
@sirhenrythe5th extra ram is never harmful. However, an extra 60% in cost for a feature that may not be useful for our purposes is imho a waste.
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@hhromic said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
Another comment of interest from the Official RPI Forums:
Buster will release with a 32-bit userland, as backwards compatibility for all previous models is important. The Pi 4 kernel uses LPAE but eventually we'll ship a 64-bit kernel.
That's great news for the near future, specially for arm64 dynarecs such as in
lr-mupen64plus-next.hmm in that particular case i don't think will be useful since there's been a perfectly serviceable 32-bit arm dynarec since forever, and n64 isn't CPU limited (that side of things full speed on a pi2).
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Anyone know if this release will soon be affiliated with Amazon?
$16 for mail delivery is enough to make me wait for now.
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This is great news, I have been wondering if a Pi 4 would come out and to come online this morning is like christmas.
Now I just have to wait till I can order one since I don't want to overpay.
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@Addison said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
Anyone know if this release will soon be affiliated with Amazon?
$16 for mail delivery is enough to make me wait for now.
They've done it with all the other pi's and iirc they are direct through the Raspberry Pi Foundation, but I think they supply Microcenter and Adafruit and the like first. Amazon seemed like the last to get the 3B+.
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