Joystick Conflicts

Foxsec

Apologies, Im quite new to this as I come from the world of Hyperspin. It's not a Xin Mo, it's just an unbranded arcade encoder.

When you say add the line to Grub, what do you mean exactly? apologies if thats a stupid question

Thanks for your comment back :)

Foxsec

@Halvhjearne

Did some looking around and I assume I have to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg and add the quirks line to the 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=' inside?

mitu

@Foxsec You can either modify the grub config file or follow the advice in the Docs and create a .conf file for to add the quirks there.

Foxsec

@mitu

Brill, I'll give that a bash and I'll report back. Thanks a bunch for your help guys.

Halvhjearne

@mitu

that will not work on ubuntu any more

@Foxsec

you need to edit /etc/default/grub

dont forget to run update-grub after

mitu

@Halvhjearne said in Joystick Conflicts:

that will not work on ubuntu any more

Why is that ?

Halvhjearne

@mitu

for some reason it will not initialize usb quirks after boot time anymore.
perhaps for security reasons? who knows

i think i wrote a post a while back describing the problem and how to solve it? ... i cant remember tbh, but i tried every possible way, when i first got my xin-mo.
the only way it will work is if you add the quirks to grub (as i described above).

tbh i havent tried it on my raspberry, so idk if the way its described in the docs will work on that, but i would assume that there would be more post about it, if it didnt.

mitu

@Halvhjearne said in Joystick Conflicts:

for some reason it will not initialize usb quirks after boot time anymore.
perhaps for security reasons? who knows

I see, so that's your experience - but that doesn't mean will not work on ubuntu any more.
There were a couple of posts in the forums with similar setup (Ubuntu) that confirmed the options added to the modprobe configuration files works - after all, that's the standard way to add options to module loading - I've added the snippet in the wiki after those topics confirmed that it's working.

Foxsec

So I added that line to GRUB and ran the updater, and it didn't pick up the extra joystick, Did a total restart and now it doesn't pick any of the joysticks up, and neither the keyboard or mouse, so I can't do anything. :s

Halvhjearne

@Foxsec

sounds like you messed something up.
tbh i have no idea what you did, but you can most likely fix it by booting from a usb stick and reverse whatever you did wrong.

did you edit the vendor and product id?
yours should be:

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash usbhid.quirks=0x0810:0xe001:0x040"

also, you are not adding a line to grub, you are editing a line that is already there and adding the usbhid quirks.
the rest should already be there by default.

Foxsec

@Halvhjearne

Hi again, I ended up having to do an entire fresh ubuntu install in the end

My line read as :

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash usbhid.quirks=0x0810:0xe001:0x040"

as the joystick is listed as Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0810:e001 ?

I then ran update-grub from /usr/bin and it just didn't work from there? was my quirks addition not right?

Edit: It looks like I had an extra 0? i will try it again with what you have suggested here.

Halvhjearne

@Foxsec

no, i made a mistake and the 0x is needed indeed.

not sure why it isnt working for you?

cat /sys/module/usbhid/parameters/quirks

if it is accepted, you should see it here or it will just return null
for me it returns this:

0x16c0:0x05e1:0x040,(null),(null),(null)

btw, it would be nice to know if the modprobe way didnt work for you.

Foxsec

Just redid it again, and it's come back as (null),(null),(null),(null)

Halvhjearne

@Foxsec

maybe you forgot to run update-grub?

either way, i suggest we take a few steps back ...

what is the actual make and model of this encoder (and is it a joystick or keyboard)?
and what happends when you run jstest?

Foxsec

@Halvhjearne

Deffo ran update-grub from /usr/sbin/, tried it again and the quirks are still null.

It's a joystick and buttons connected to a little encoder, not sure of the make or model because it isn't branded. I may just end up buying another one ;(

Halvhjearne

@Foxsec

not sure how it wouldnt work, except if you forgot to run update-grub or restart.

lsusb or usb-devices commands can usually give you a clue to the make and model name.

you didnt answer what happends when you run jstest?
on ubuntu you can get a version with gui called jstest-gtk

Foxsec

@Halvhjearne

Just lists it as twin usb joystick. I can copy and paste all of the info from it if that helps?

Did a jstest-gtk and it shows that the joysticks work but it picks up both players as player 1.

Halvhjearne

@Foxsec

not sure what you are doing wrong, the quirks should be added, even if the joystick is not connected.
it does sounds like its a clone of the xin-mo, so im guessing it should work.

mitu

You can check that the quirks have been added to the boot command line by running

cat /proc/cmdline

Can you copy the output of the command and post it here ? Alternatively, as @Halvhjearne mentioned, try using modprobe to apply the options from a command line:

rmmod usbhid && modprobe usbhid quirks=0x0810:0xe001:0x040

Foxsec

rmmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:793 kmod_module_remove_module() could not remove 'usbhid': Operation not permitted
rmmod: ERROR: could not remove module usbhid: Operation not permitted

Is what I get when I run the rrmod command?

And I get the below when I type the cmdline in

BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.0.0-23-generic root=UUID=9c1664a3-6dc6-4ad4-afc8-334c7e46342b ro quiet splash vt.handoff=1

Think it's worth just getting another encoder so I'll have one for each joystick? seems like it just doesn't want to work, thanks a lot for you help btw guys, really appreciate it.