new scriptmodules (lr-vice-xvic, gsplus, proper lr-mess integration!)
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@valerino said in new scriptmodules (lr-vice-xvic, gsplus, proper lr-mess integration!):
@mitu ah, don't ask me :)
No, I meant what is the problem that you're trying to solve with that alternate solution that you proposed and why
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@mitu because you're forced to use softlists with lr-mess, or anyway 'mess' yourself with configurations after the installation to have everything running from the frontend 'as normal'. and mess systems are like separate cores anyway.
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@valerino said in new scriptmodules (lr-vice-xvic, gsplus, proper lr-mess integration!):
because you're forced to use softlists with lr-mess, or anyway 'mess' yourself with configurations after the installation to have everything running from the frontend 'as normal'.
What's the upstream recommendation/default ?
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@mitu https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/MESS
it works like mame, you need to have roms named the way they're defined in the softlists, plus they need to match a hash. it's completely non-practical for computer systems.
my way you can use whichever rom you want, as with every other emulator.
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@valerino said in new scriptmodules (lr-vice-xvic, gsplus, proper lr-mess integration!):
my way you can use whichever rom you want, as with every other emulator.
I see, except that MAME/MESS doesn't always work like that.
We have a special section in the Docs for Arcade to emphasize the need to use the proper ROMset (validated) for the MAME version and still get a lot of question from users that copy a random/incorrect MAME roms and they get an error.
I understand that the 'no softlist' method it's easier, but wouldn't also lead to similar issues as with arcade emulation ?
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@mitu well, mess is a bit different than mame (i know they now converged, but for simplicity keep them separate).
mess emulates different computer/console systems, they will load everything as normal (as any computer/console do in other emulators), once booted their BIOS/OS. mess just enforces the BIOS is correct through hashes, and that's right.
the additional 'softlist' enforcement i really don't know why it has been put in place for mess, luckily it can be disabled.mame is a completely different beast. each mame driver (well, mostly) is specific for a game, which may exist in different dump version. that's why you have i.e. 5 versions of dkong.zip, for example. still, it's the same game.
with mess you have i.e. the samcoupe driver, which will just ensure to load the samcoupe bios/os. that's all. then you put whichever disk/tape you want, as with every other computer emulator. you don't have people begging stuff don't work for i.e. lr-vice. or, if there's any, you just simply answer 'live with it'.hope i've been clear.... i understand you want to protect from begging users, i'm all for practical things i know....
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anyway, i keep adding systems on my fork until i'm done :)
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Good Afternoon All
I have just download the Retropie 4.6 version and I was wondering if the setup folder that you copy over is compatible with this new version.
Rgds
CCF
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@CCFox i don't know. probably is, i also updated mine and my repo is on par with 4.6 now.
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I updated to Retropie 4.6 and the installation went fine as expected. I copied over that Retropie Setup folder and installed lr-vice. I then tried to install lr-xvic and it failed. Log below:
Log started at: Tue 28 Apr 20:01:32 BST 2020
RetroPie-Setup version: 4.5.20 (21a099a7)
System: Raspbian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) - Linux retropie 4.19.97-v7+ #1294 SMP Thu Jan 30 13:15:58 GMT 2020 armv7l GNU/Linux
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Building 'lr-vice-xvic' : Commodore Vic20 emulator - port of VICE for libretro
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =make: Makefile.libretro: No such file or directory
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/home/pi
Could not successfully build lr-vice-xvic - Commodore Vic20 emulator - port of VICE for libretro (/home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/tmp/build/lr-vice-xvic/vice_xvic_libretro.so not found).Log ended at: Tue 28 Apr 20:02:22 BST 2020
Total running time: 0 hours, 0 mins, 50 secsI will try Plus 4 and report back
KR
CCF
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@CCFox uhm. same happens to me. lr-vice repo has changed and the lr-vice retropie scripts (both upstream and mine) has not been updated.
fix is simple, in all lr-vice.sh, lr-vice-xvic.sh,lr-vice-blabla just replaceMakefile.libretro
with
Makefile
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@CCFox i just committed the fix on my repo
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I am currently installing lr-mess and it has so far as writing 4 hours. it is 3.30am here in England.
Is this normal?
Rgds
CCF
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@CCFox said in new scriptmodules (lr-vice-xvic, gsplus, proper lr-mess integration!):
I am currently installing lr-mess and it has so far as writing 4 hours. it is 3.30am here in England.
If you're installing from source, it takes a long time to compile. On a (stock) Pi3B took me more than 1 day. The Pi4B is more powerful, it's faster to compile and it doesn't take that much.
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My Word
Had I had known that I probably wouldn't had started it! I saw that somebody had posted it takes a while...Bit of an understatement I think!
On a side note, in your opinion is it worth upgrading to RPi 4? I know the latest retropie 4.6 is in beta and I was wondering if the N64 and PSP game play has improved at all. I knid of miss the lego series on the PSP. I see conflicting reports on youtube etc and I assume you have a pi4 so I would really value your opinion. And I will accept it without prejudice!
Rgds
CCF
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@CCFox said in new scriptmodules (lr-vice-xvic, gsplus, proper lr-mess integration!):
Had I had known that I probably wouldn't had started it! I saw that somebody had posted it takes a while...Bit of an understatement I think!
You can do a binary install, it will be just as good.
On a side note, in your opinion is it worth upgrading to RPi 4? I know the latest retropie 4.6 is in beta and I was wondering if the N64 and PSP game play has improved at all. I knid of miss the lego series on the PSP. I see conflicting reports on youtube etc and I assume you have a pi4 so I would really value your opinion.
There is an improvement for N64 and PSP with the PI4 - but I wouldn't discard the PI3 if you're just starting up with RetroPie, there's lots of platforms that work well and you can get to learn RetroPie's ins and outs.
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unfortunately as far as i see there's no option to install lr-mess from binary. i did from source as well, on a pi4, and i can confirm it takes 2 (if not 3) hours.
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For the Pi3 using the 4.5.1 image, a binary install should be available. Can't be sure for the new release (4.6), which is based on Buster.
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