Lr-mame 20xy and handheld games

DTEAM

Hi, What is the best way to set Lr-mame 20xy to play handheld games like games from Tiger Electronics LCD handheld. I read post and recommendations but I don't know if It's doable? If yes, which Mame version and what is the good way to set .ini file or do something else?

In this post, to set MAME with an accessible .cpp file they use a .ini file called driver.ini where they point the good .cpp file with the good game. Can we use those lines in the only mame.ini file I found in the etc/ folder?

Exemple of what we see in driver.ini:

[hh_pic16.cpp]
flash
hccbaskb
leboom
maniac
matchme
melodym
pabball
rockpin
tbaskb
touchme
ttfball
ttfballa
us2pfball
uspbball
[hh_sm510.cpp]
bassmate
exospace
gnw_ball
gnw_bfight
gnw_bfightn
gnw_bjack
gnw_boxing
gnw_bsweep
gnw_cgrab
gnw_chef
gnw_climber
''etc...''

I read we can create a mame.ini in /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mame20xy . Is It a good way to do that?

Thanks
Regards

mitu

@DTEAM said in Lr-mame 20xx and handheld games:

In this post, to set MAME with an accessible .cpp file they use a .ini file called driver.ini where they point the good .cpp file with the good game.

That's for displaying in the MAME - native - interface, not sure what has to the playability of the game.

Can we use those lines in the only mame.ini file I found in the etc/ folder?

No.

DTEAM

Would there be another way to play these handheld games with Lr-mame 20xy in Retropie?

mitu

You don't want lr-mame20XY, but lr-mess20XY or mame. The lr-mame20XY cores only handle arcade games.

For lr-mess cores, see https://retropie.org.uk/docs/MESS/. If you want to use mame, then you can create a separate system and use mame <driver> %ROM% as the running command.

The list of 'drivers' for each type of game is listed in the Reddit post you mentioned (e.g. for Tiger Electronics, the driver is named hhtiger, etc.)

EDIT: mame's full path is /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame.

DTEAM

It works with regular MAME without specific setup !! It works only in the Arcade folder for now. I have set a new system, so now I have Tiger Electronics LCD handheld as a new machine. I have to run the game a first time in arcade to be able to run It in my Tiger folder. It's stange. I'll see what happens in the roms path.
These games files requires external artwork files. I'm gonna try to found It.

Can we set hotkeys to exit or one key for that.
Thanks

DTEAM

@DTEAM said in Lr-mame 20xy and handheld games:

I have to run the game a first time in arcade to be able to run It in my Tiger folder. It's stange. I'll see what happens in the roms path.

I fixed It
I added a new rompath in mame.ini called tigerh (my new system) (see first line)

rompath /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame;/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/arcade;/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame;/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/tigerh;
hashpath /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/hash
samplepath /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame/samples;/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/arcade/samples
artpath /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame/artwork;/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/arcade/artwork

etc...

mitu

You can probably add just a hhtiger.ini containing differences from the main file (mame.ini):

rompath /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/tigerh
artpath /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/tigerh/artwork

EDIT: to exit, you'll have to use the MAME UI and map the UI cancel (?) manually. By default it's the ESC key.

DTEAM

@mitu said in Lr-mame 20xy and handheld games:

EDIT: to exit, you'll have to use the MAME UI and map the UI cancel (?) manually. By default it's the ESC key.

Thanks!
It's quite fun to use MAME for handheld systems. I didn't think it was an option in the MAME romset. I will go to sleep less dumb tonight

mitu

Game & Watch games are also fun, but the artwork rendering is going to be killer on a Pi.

DTEAM

@mitu
not bad also with Tiger Handheld on Retropie (-;

Thanks for your support. It works perfectly !!!

Frameskip must be set at : Auto (set with F8 and F9). Those games didn't have a big number of image per second on there original format, so frameskip = Auto doesn't affect the playability and recreate a good gaming experience.

Note : I put the artwork folder in the main roms folder. Easier to manage. Not displayed in games menu and no chmod to do.

DTEAM

@DTEAM said in Lr-mame 20xy and handheld games:

Note : I put the artwork folder in the main roms folder. Easier to manage. Not displayed in games menu and no chmod to do.

Better than that , I created an artwork folder in /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame
and linked It to mame.ini. Now, It works for lr-mess and MAME !! Fantastic

zerojay

@DTEAM How well does game.com run?

DTEAM

@zerojay
54.70 FPS almost full speed
Good sound
Good gameplay
Good gaming experience
Overall: Very nice

DTEAM

I have pre-sorted the list of handheld gaming systems in MAME (excepted Tiger Handheld and Game & Watch). I have not tested any system. I have sorted them by distributors for those who want to create new systems on their Pi and I have indicated those who had Artwork. I discarded those that seemed difficult to play on a Pi. Please feel free to comment on your gaming experience, which ones work or not and if I forgot systems.

For systems pictures see with a MAME name in the search tool here

DTEAM

It works well for Konami and Game & Watch too.

Finally, I created 7 systems:

Konami Handheld
Game & Watch (with madrigal and MAME romset (including Elektronika))
Tiger Handheld
Tiger R-Zone
Classic Handheld systems (non-game & watch from madrigal and all other manufacturers in the MAME romset such as Coleco, Entex, etc.)
All in one Handheld and Plug & Play ~~console~~ (MAME functional systems : M505NEO,mc_tv200, njp60in1, sy888b, sy889, DGUN2573, rminitv, unk1682, ii32in1, ii8in, intact89, intg5410, miwi2_7, zone7in1 -------> Note: Some of those need to be set with frameskip = Auto , some systems have imperfect sound and have problems with main screen, but games are ok most of the time. The first five "All in one handheld consoles" have the best performances)
JAKKS Pacific TV Games

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IMPORTANT (for LCD systems ) : By default, they run at 33 FPS. Frameskip must be set at : Auto (set it with F8 and F9). Those games didn't have a big number of images per second on there original format, so frameskip = Auto doesn't affect the playability and recreate the real gaming experience.

DTEAM

*All in one Handheld and Plug & Play ~~console~~ * like introduced above
Best performance
m505neo
mc_tv200 -------> same as dgun2577
sy888b
sy889
rminitv
dgun2573
unk1682
ablmini
ablpinb
bittboy
cybar120
dnv200fs
fapocket
fcpocket
gprnrs1
gprnrs16
itvg49
lexiseal
lexizeus
lx_jg7415
m521neo
mc_105te -----------------> 2011 Super HiK 105 in 1 Turbo Edition
mc_110cb
mc_138cb ----> 138 in 1 CoolBaby (CoolBoy RS-5, PCB060-10009011V1.3)
mc_7x6ss
mc_89in1
mc_8x6cb
mc_8x6ss
mc_9x6ss
mc_aa2
mc_cb280
mc_dcat8
mc_dg101
mc_dgear
mc_hh210
mc_sam60
mc_sp69
megapad
mgt20in1
mysprtcp
mysptqvc
oplayer ---> sports games 100 in 1, but weird boxing game against a baby!! )-:
pdc100
pdc150t
pdc200
pdc40t
pdc50
tmntpdc ---> Only 1 game but PDC console like the others PDC
pjoyn50
pjoys30
pjoys60
ppgc200g
react
reactmd
sarc110
sudopptv
techni4
vgcaplet
vgpmini
vgpocket
vjpp2 ---------> very nice games
vsplus ------> very nice games
zdog
zudugo ---------> The game Super Fight 1 is a strange clone or counterfeit of Contra

Playable - Some of those need to be set with frameskip = Auto , some systems have imperfect sound and have problems with main screen, but games are ok most of the time.
ii32in1
ii8in
intact89
intg5410
miwi2_7
zone7in1
majkon
timetp36
njp60in1

Tested and Not working - in development
dgun2500
dgun2561
dgun2572
dgun2953
dgun2593
myac220
bkid218
dphh8630
mc_hh210
mog_m320
rfcp168
rhhc152
unkunsp
nprsp
ragc153
rbitgen
rtvgc300
rtvgc300fz
dance555
dbdancem
ddrdismx
ddrstraw
decathln
denv150
dvnimbus
exsprt48
hyprscan
lpgm240
lxccminn
lxccplan
lxcmc250
lxcmcy
lxcmcycr
lxcmcydp
lxcmcyfz
lxcmcypp
lxcmcysp
lxcmcysw
lxts3
lx_aven
lx_jg7425
majgnc.
mc_pg150
miwi2_16
msidd
msifrog
msimm2
msimpac
msisinv
msiwwe
mysprtch
otrail
pjoypj001
polmega
protpp
red5mam
senwld
silv35
solargm
sporzbx
sporzpp
sporztn
timetp7
vdogdeme
vdogdemo
vgtablet
vsmaxx17
vtboxing
vtpinball
vtsndtest
wldsoctv
wowwg
xing48
zon32bit
zone3d
zonefusn

If I forgot some handheld All in 1 consoles from the 0.225 MAME Romset, feel free to share It. For Mame driver and comments, see here . Just with this driver (nes_vt.cpp), they propose 103 All in One mini arcades . ~~Still a lot of testing to do!~~ Some other drivers are vt_unknown.cpp, vt1682.cpp, spg2xx_zone_32bit.cpp and all spg2.... .cpp . The tests are finished. It took me a long time but I think it might interest a few people and it makes another system or category to create in retropie. These roms are smalls and contain some good games.

DTEAM

I finally created a seventh system with MAME ROMs called JAKKS Pacific TV Games. There are some great games with this system and most ROMs work well.

Tested and working
jak_batm
jak_capc
jak_care
jak_dbz
jak_disf
jak_disn
jak_dora
jak_dorr
jak_dpr
jak_dprs
jak_fan4
jak_just
jak_mk
jak_mpac
jak_mpacw
jak_nick
jak_pooh
jak_sbfc
jak_sdoo
jak_sith
jak_spdm
jak_wall
jak_wof
jak_wwe
pinkjelly (Not Jakks but same type of concept)
fordrace (Not Jakks but same type of concept)

Tested and Not working - in development
jak_car2
jak_bbh
jak_bbsf
jak_camp
jak_capb
jak_dchp
jak_ddhp
jak_duck
jak_gtg
jak_hmg2 (no sound)
jak_hmhsm
jak_hsmg2
jak_pf
jak_prft
jak_prhp
jak_s500
jak_smwm
jak_sspop
jak_swbstrik
jak_swc
jak_ths
jak_tink
jak_tmnthp
jak_totm
jak_tsm
jak_umdf
jak_wdbg
jak_wdzh

JAKKS Pacific TV Games
Jakks Pacific Inc (Video Snaps)(HD)(MAME) 1.0.0

zerojay

@DTEAM said in Lr-mame 20xy and handheld games:

zudugo ---------> The game Super Fight 1 is a strange clone or counterfeit of Contra

It's also the very first game on ablmini. Pretty interesting clone or hack. Keep up the good work, you're giving me a lot more stuff to add to my RetroPie and I love it.

DTEAM

@zerojay said in Lr-mame 20xy and handheld games:

Keep up the good work, you're giving me a lot more stuff to add to my RetroPie and I love it.

Thanks for your support. Same with me, I discovered new stuffs to add to my Pi and I like that. MAME romset is like a flea market where you can find unsuspected treasures! Games just need to be tested and organized properly to be presented as a system on Pi. It's a lot of work, but it's worth it.
Note: For "All in one Handheld and Plug & Play ~~consoles~~ " , I added hyperlinks pointed on pictures of the consoles.

zerojay

@DTEAM FYI, MAME 0.226 just released with support for more vt nes X in one consoles and more handheld stuff.