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    • AdamBeGood
      AdamBeGood @Zering last edited by

      @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

      @AdamBeGood The sequel is excellent.

      I'm playing the sequel now, I struggled not to take a shed load of hits in Genocide 1. It seemed rather attritional. I wouldn't rule out that I am playing it poorly though! Genocide 2 seems a lot better - lovely intro also. I've played the first couple of levels now.

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      • Folly
        Folly @Zering last edited by

        @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

        @Folly I'll look into it now.

        Your rom is wrong. You should have a game disk and a user disk.

        Found that subsystem in retroarch menu.
        Just one back (z).
        Will have to search then.

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        • Zering
          Zering @AdamBeGood last edited by Zering

          @AdamBeGood Yeah I agree with you. The second one seems a lot more accessible, but both left me feeling as though I wasn't playing them right. However I really enjoy their presentation, the graphics and sound are astounding.

          @Folly Let me know how you get on, I've booted up the PC88 for the first time yesterday since I've had the Pi 4 and it's acting up a bit haha

          Edit : Wibarm won't boot on my end either. Weird. It worked fine before and I haven't changed anything.

          Further edit : Sorted, it loads but there's a looooong wait. If your controller has a vibration function, the emulator uses the vibration to signal when it's accessing the disc drive. Neat.

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          • Folly
            Folly @Zering last edited by

            @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

            @Folly Let me know how you get on, I've booted up the PC88 for the first time yesterday since I've had the Pi 4 and it's acting up a bit haha

            Edit : Wibarm won't boot on my end either. Weird. It worked fine before and I haven't changed anything.

            Will let you know how I get on.
            Will try some other games first to know the emulator a bit better.
            My pi4 goes pretty flawless !

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            • Zering
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              @Folly Yes it's pretty impressive what the Pi 4 can do isn't it?
              By the way. When you get to Rude Breaker. There's a lot of slowdown unless you crank up the CPU Clock Multiplier. 24 did it for me.

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              • Folly
                Folly @Zering last edited by

                @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                @Folly Yes it's pretty impressive what the Pi 4 can do isn't it?
                By the way. When you get to Rude Breaker. There's a lot of slowdown unless you crank up the CPU Clock Multiplier. 24 did it for me.

                Ok, will see.

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                • Zering
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                  @Folly Any cool games you can recommend for the MSX1/2/Turbo R?

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                  • Folly
                    Folly @Zering last edited by Folly

                    @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                    @Folly Any cool games you can recommend for the MSX1/2/Turbo R?

                    Here are just a few:

                    MSX1 :
                    Oils-well : super addictive
                    oilswell-201102-193024.png
                    Blagger
                    pinguin adventure: was always fun

                    Turbo-R:
                    Undead Line

                    MSX2:
                    Salamander : The super nemesis
                    Konami Game Collection Special (1989)(Konami)[SCC+]:simple but addictive
                    (2 times, the second choice)
                    (I have an individual rom, but can't find it now)
                    Konami Game Collection Special (1989)(Konami)[SCC+]-201102-191948.png

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                    • Zering
                      Zering @Folly last edited by Zering

                      @Folly Salamander is awesome, hard as hell though.
                      Speaking of Salamander did you happen to take a look at the X68000 version?
                      It's crazy how much Konami supported those computers. It seems to me that along with Compile they completely dominated the MSX.

                      I'll try some of those games tonight!

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                      • Folly
                        Folly @Zering last edited by

                        @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                        @Folly Salamander is awesome, hard as hell though.
                        Speaking of Salamander did you happen to take a look at the X68000 version?
                        It's crazy how much Konami supported those computers. It seems to me that along with Compile they completely dominated the MSX.

                        I'll try some of those games tonight!

                        What I have seen, it's realy amazing.

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                        • Zering
                          Zering @Folly last edited by

                          @Folly Salamander on MSX is very interesting. I expected a straight port but really it's Gradius in Salamander's clothing, with the traditional power up bar and everything. Great fun.
                          I can see myself spending way more time than I should on Oil's Well ^^

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                          • Folly
                            Folly @Zering last edited by

                            @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                            @Folly Salamander on MSX is very interesting. I expected a straight port but really it's Gradius in Salamander's clothing, with the traditional power up bar and everything. Great fun.
                            I can see myself spending way more time than I should on Oil's Well ^^

                            Suggestion: Collect the "E"'s in Salamander :)

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                            • Zering
                              Zering @Folly last edited by

                              @Folly What do they do?

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                              • Folly
                                Folly last edited by Folly

                                @Zering

                                Got Wibarm running !

                                Seems that info of adding disks is also missing in the retropie docs.
                                Perhaps we can add this.

                                Summarized a bit :
                                Press "F1" -> Press "z" (back) -> Goto "Subsystems" -> Goto "2 disks" -> Add the first disk, again add the second disk (in same options)( it will say something like, 2 disks added) -> Same option, "2 disks", turns into "start ......" - Execute with "x".

                                Will try later if we can make .m3u files.

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                                • Folly
                                  Folly @Zering last edited by

                                  @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                  @Folly What do they do?

                                  As far as I remember. You get special weapons.

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                                  • Zering
                                    Zering @Folly last edited by

                                    @Folly That's what I meant with subsystems. Sorry, I should have been more specific.
                                    I wonder if there's a way down the line to update the documrntation with all this information?

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                                    • AdamBeGood
                                      AdamBeGood @Zering last edited by AdamBeGood

                                      @Zering I got Neural Gear working! It's mouse control. Change the setting in Options from Joystick to Mouse and then click on the Menu and you're away!

                                      Edit: the question of whether it was worth the struggle is still to be answered.

                                      @Folly I got the games you mentioned, I was catching some rice balls in Konami Collection this morning!

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                                      • Zering
                                        Zering @AdamBeGood last edited by

                                        @AdamBeGood Oh well done! Did you try After Burner II to see if the issue was the same?

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                                        • AdamBeGood
                                          AdamBeGood @Zering last edited by

                                          @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                          @AdamBeGood Oh well done! Did you try After Burner II to see if the issue was the same?

                                          I didn't, I haven't got that one yet. Let me know!

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                                            @AdamBeGood No luck with either.

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