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      Zering @Folly
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      @folly Indeed! So many of those games would deserve a translation but aren't.
      Do you think this sort of thing would be within the realm of possibility? I imagine it would take a pretty big toll on the Pi's CPU no?

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        Folly @Zering
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        @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

        @folly Indeed! So many of those games would deserve a translation but aren't.
        Do you think this sort of thing would be within the realm of possibility? I imagine it would take a pretty big toll on the Pi's CPU no?

        Indeed, a big toll if all frames would have to be processed. Perhaps it's better to let the user decide when a translation has to be made. (by pressing or every 30 seconds or so)

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          Zering @Folly
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          @folly What about a situation in which the 'translations would be streamed from another device, ie. a PC or a phone?

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            Folly @Zering
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            @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

            @folly What about a situation in which the 'translations would be streamed from another device, ie. a PC or a phone?

            Good idea, then the load is more on that device.

            I have used a VNC connection with my PI to a tablet. Using the tabled as a display. I was able to play games. So this would be possible.

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              Zering @Folly
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              @folly What would it take to make something like this happen then?

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                Folly @Zering
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                @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                @folly What would it take to make something like this happen then?

                Well, if it could be done directly on the pi, then screenshots have to be pushed to tesseract-ocr, the created text then have to be shifted to a translator (online or offline (open source)), then put back to Retroarch as an overlay.

                Ofcourse, that's a lot of work. Pfff....

                Will try some. (but indeed, perhaps it's not feasible)

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                  Zering @Folly
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                  @folly I literally did not understand a word ^^
                  Is there anything you can work from? Surely somebody somewhere must have had a similar idea.

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                    Folly @Zering
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                    @zering

                    I will explain a bit better.

                    I didn't expect, but it could be quite easy when using just a screenshot made in the normal way.

                    manually did this test :

                    • made a screenshot of "oilswell" with the screen "select game with joystick"
                    • used tesseract to recognise and save the text from the picture
                    • used "trans"(commandline google translate shell) to read the text file (it recognises my language and translates to that)
                    • then I can use "xosd-bin" to overlay the text in the game. (tested this program and it works)

                    Will see if i can automate that. Curious what the result will be.
                    My script has to look , on the fly, for pictures, delete them, translate and show them. Seems possible !!!

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                      Zering @Folly
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                      @folly You're a true computer whiz! I've learnt more about this stuff just chatting with you than I have most of the time I've had the Pi.
                      I'm very excited to hear the results.

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                        Folly @Zering
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                        @zering

                        here is a picure from the test :

                        text size and color can be change, I think. (did not test yet)

                        2020-11-07-214639_800x600_scrot.png

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                          AdamBeGood @Zering
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                          @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                          @adambegood Figured out the C Issue. For this game, set your Joypad D-Pad to Mouse/Keyboard/Joypad Mapping to Arrow 3Button. Edit : Or is it Keypad 3-button? One of those two work.

                          Can I just say how much I adore the graphics on this system? That extra resolution is just gorgeous (same for the PC88 to a lesser extent).

                          Keypad 3-button! Perfect. Really gutted I didn't get there myself though. Great work.

                          I think it is a good looking machine, hopefully I can make some progress in Night Slave and Rusty now. :)

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                            Folly @AdamBeGood
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                            @adambegood

                            Nice to hear it works. Happy playing !

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                              AdamBeGood @Folly
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                              @folly I've just caught up on all this translation stuff! Would be amazing if it could be done.

                              I use patches or if it is a one-off like an instruction to change disks that I don't understand, I point a Google Translate camera at the screen. Very unsophisticated system over here!

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                                Zering @AdamBeGood
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                                @adambegood Excellent, glad you could get it to work! Today's been pretty productive, between Night Slave and getting the FM7 to run decently. Sadly I have to say my attempts to run X1 games in Mess have failed miserably but I'm going to try again tomorrow.

                                @Folly I take it the red text is the overlay?

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                                  Folly @AdamBeGood
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                                  @adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                  @folly I've just caught up on all this translation stuff! Would be amazing if it could be done.

                                  I use patches or if it is a one-off like an instruction to change disks that I don't understand, I point a Google Translate camera at the screen. Very unsophisticated system over here!

                                  Actually, I was thinking that you did it that way.

                                  I don't know how the results will be. But it's worth a shot. Don't you think so ?

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                                    Folly @Zering
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                                    @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                    @Folly I take it the red text is the overlay?

                                    Yep.

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                                      Zering @Folly
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                                      @folly Seems like it works, in theory. As most games require you to press a button to get new text, would it be possible to cut down the performance issues by mapping the script to a hotkey combination? Thay way you're only ever processing one frame at a time.

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                                        Folly @Zering
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                                        @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                        @folly Seems like it works, in theory. As most games require you to press a button to get new text, would it be possible to cut down the performance issues by mapping the script to a hotkey combination? Thay way you're only ever processing one frame at a time.

                                        Exactly. and the hotkey is already there "F8" for making screenshots.

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                                          Zering @Folly
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                                          @folly That's brilliant, then I can't imagine why it wouldn't work.

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                                            Folly @Zering
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                                            @zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                            @folly That's brilliant, then I can't imagine why it wouldn't work.

                                            Well, have to go now. Will see how it goes.

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