Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME

Folly

@DTEAM said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

some new handheld just doesn't work (like JAKKS... almost 50% of the existing MAME roms doesn't work, same thing for All in one)

I did a quick raw filter from my database for all_in1 and jakks as you can see.
We only know if we test them if they are good or bad or if they fit in.

DTEAM

@Folly

The tested ones are in my very first thread about MAME handheld. See, here. See bottom of each list per category for non working systems.

I'll take a look if new systems are added and not tested.

BTW, the original images are linked to each systems in the list, you can click on it. I didn't even remember 🤣.

Folly

@DTEAM

I probably found a way to check if a driver is good or bad.
I checked 2 drivers like this :

/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listxml jak_batm|grep "driver status"
			<!ATTLIST driver status (good|imperfect|preliminary) #REQUIRED>
		<driver status="imperfect" emulation="good" savestate="unsupported"/>
/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listxml jak_bbh|grep "driver status"
			<!ATTLIST driver status (good|imperfect|preliminary) #REQUIRED>
		<driver status="preliminary" emulation="preliminary" savestate="unsupported"/>

Automating it would give a proper list I think.

Folly

@DTEAM

For the new release 250 I want to see if we can make new ini files based upon the idea of extracting it from mame.

This is an early test on jakks how we could do that.
Here I use the completed sorted database.
Goal is to do it with the unsorted data before I create the sorted database 250 file.

cat /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame0249_systems_sorted_info|grep jak_|cut -d " " -f2|while read driver;do [[ $(/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listxml $driver|grep "emulation="|cut -d\" -f4) == good ]] && echo $driver;done
jak_batm
jak_capc
jak_care
jak_dbz
jak_disf
jak_disn
jak_dora
jak_dorr
jak_dpr
jak_dprs
jak_dwmn
jak_dwmno
jak_fan4
jak_just
jak_mk
jak_mpac
jak_mpacw
jak_nick
jak_pooh
jak_sbfc
jak_sbjd
jak_sith
jak_sithp
jak_spdm
jak_swot
jak_wall
jak_wof
jak_wwe
jak_xmenp

We can do the same with all_in1 drivers (filtered on "in 1" & "in-1" & "non-arcade" with no jakks drivers "jak_") :
(manually drivers like fordrace could be added in the filter list)

cat /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame0249_systems_sorted_info|grep 'in 1\|in-1'|grep non-arcade|grep -v jak_|cut -d " " -f2|while read driver;do [[ $(/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listxml $driver|grep "emulation="|cut -d\" -f4) == good ]] && echo $driver;done
110dance
ablmini
apexc
bittboy
cdlyoko
cybar120
dgun851
dgun853
dnv200fs
dturbogt
exsprt48
f1392
f3in1
fapocket
fcpocket
ii32in1
ii8in1
intact89
itvg48
itvg49
jl2050
lexiseal
lexizeus
lx_jg7410
lx_jg7415
m505neo
m521neo
marc101
max10in1
maxx5in1
maxx6in1
mc_110cb
mc_138cb
mc_7x6ss
mc_89in1
mc_8x6cb
mc_8x6ss
mc_9x6sa
mc_9x6ss
mc_aa2
mc_cb280
mc_dcat8
mc_dcat8a
mc_dg101
mc_dgear
mc_sam60
mc_sp69
mc_tv200
mgt20in1
miwi2_16
miwi2_7
msinamco
mysprtch
mysptqvc
oplayer
pjoyn50
pjoys30
pjoys60
polmega
rcapnp
react
rminitv
sen101
senario25
silv35
solargm
sudo6in1
sy888b
sy889
t3in1sa
t7in1ss
techni4
timetp25
timetp36
timetp7
tvbg3a
tvbg3b
tvbg3c
tvbg6a
tvbg6b
tvsprt10
v4in1eg
ventur25
vgcap35
vgcaplet
vjpp2
vsmax25v
vsmaxtx2
vsmaxx17
vsmaxx77
vsmaxxvd
vsplus
vt25in1
wldsoctv
xing48
zdog
zone7in1
zone7in1p

We can do the same with konamih drivers (filtered on "Driver k" & "konami" & "handheld" & "non-arcade") :

cat /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame0249_systems_sorted_info|grep "^Driver k"|grep handheld|grep konami|grep non-arcade|cut -d " " -f2|while read driver;do [[ $(/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listxml $driver|grep "emulation="|cut -d\" -f4) == good ]] && echo $driver;done
kbilly
kblades
kbucky
kcontra
kdribble
kgarfld
kgradius
kloneran
knfl
ktmnt
ktopgun

I like the idea of adding a @V or @good tag all drivers, in the sorted list, that are good :

cat /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame0249_systems_sorted_info|cut -d " " -f2|while read driver;do [[ $(/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listxml $driver|grep "emulation="|cut -d\" -f4) == good ]] && echo $driver;done

etc..

DTEAM

@Folly

I'm currently working on "all in one" gamelist. you have added 13 videos more than the current gamelist. you cover 100% of the games and will finish adding them this week. I will make another attempt to find the missing images. for your approach, it is excellent. however, I recommend always testing the new systems you want to add.

Folly

@DTEAM

I just had a look at the differences between the predefined all_in1.ine and my generated one.
Indeed, there are quite some differences.
Will have a look later again.

Folly

@DTEAM

I had a 3rd try on automating a list for all_in1.
Just to help you find new ones and for me to see if there is a better way of automating this process for the future.
I included the search for ones that are originally in your ini file.
Seems only a few are missing now which have the emulation=preliminary (bad) as tag.

cat /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame0249_systems_sorted_info|awk '/in 1/||/in-1/||/Driver abl/||/Pocket Dream Console/||/TV Play Classic/||/Driver dgun/||/Driver mc\_/||/Driver mysp/||/fordrace/||/magapad/||/majkon/||/intg5410/||/ppgc200g/||/sudopptv/||/zudugo/||/tak_geig/||/tomcpin/'|grep non-arcade|grep -v jak_|cut -d " " -f2|while read driver;do [[ $(/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listxml $driver|grep "emulation="|cut -d\" -f4) == good ]] && echo $driver;done
110dance
ablmini
ablpinb
apexc
bittboy
cdlyoko
cybar120
dgun2500
dgun2573
dgun2573a
dgun2869
dgun851
dgun853
dgunl3227
dnv200fs
dorapdc
dturbogt
exsprt48
f1392
f3in1
fapocket
fcpocket
fordrace
ii32in1
ii8in1
intact89
itvg48
itvg49
jl2050
lexiseal
lexizeus
lx_jg7410
lx_jg7415
m505neo
m521neo
majkon
marc101
max10in1
maxx5in1
maxx6in1
mc_110cb
mc_138cb
mc_7x6ss
mc_89in1
mc_8x6cb
mc_8x6ss
mc_9x6sa
mc_9x6ss
mc_aa2
mc_cb280
mc_dcat8
mc_dcat8a
mc_dg101
mc_dgear
mc_sam60
mc_sp69
mc_tv200
mgt20in1
miwi2_16
miwi2_7
msinamco
mysprtch
mysprtcp
mysptqvc
namcons1
namcons2
oplayer
pdc100
pdc150t
pdc200
pdc40t
pdc50
pjoyn50
pjoys30
pjoys60
polmega
ppgc200g
rcapnp
react
rminitv
sen101
senario25
silv35
solargm
sudo6in1
sudopptv
sy888b
sy889
t3in1sa
t7in1ss
taitons1
taitons2
tak_geig
techni4
timetp25
timetp36
timetp7
tmntpdc
tomcpin
tvbg3a
tvbg3b
tvbg3c
tvbg6a
tvbg6b
tvsprt10
v4in1eg
ventur25
vgcap35
vgcaplet
vjpp2
vsmax25v
vsmaxtx2
vsmaxx17
vsmaxx77
vsmaxxvd
vsplus
vt25in1
wldsoctv
xing48
zdog
zone7in1
zone7in1p
zudugo

Retrodade

@DTEAM anytime :)

Retrodade

so..there are more jakks and all in ones working now?

Folly

@Retrodade

Mame 0.250 version is out now :
https://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=121625#Post121625

With every new version more stuff should be working.
For 0.250, more handhelds are added.
If you find a rom you can just place it in the corresponding roms directory and it should work if you update the mame version.

Somehow, we have to work on updating the lists and extract this from mame or the what's new file.

Retrodade

@Folly nice i will do that!
i want to mention the Sinden guys have a hack version of lr-mame
the install is called " lr-mame-StormedBubbles"
they also have a few hack versions of other mame and mess
the install plays 3 "plug and play" light gun games

Mission: Paintball Powered Up (pballpup) - Perfect accuracy correction. Needs "Boot from CLI" enabled in core options.
Star Wars: Clone Trooper Blaster Game (swclone) - Perfect accuracy correction. Needs "Boot from CLI" enabled in core options.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant & Monster Mayhem (tmntmutm) - Perfect accuracy correction

of course this version of mame launches more than 3 games
but figured I'd mention it since these are plug and plays and maybe it could open more doors?

DTEAM

@Retrodade

We have to test those games . For Jakks, 50% of the roms doesn't work or work with a Wii remote. I'm working on classich at the moment .. I'll check if new "working" systems had been added after.

Retrodade

@DTEAM
here are the 3 scrapes\pics and wheel I made for those 3 "plug n plays" I described above, if you want them
scrapes for those three here
https://mega.nz/file/XS5DCbyL#8YbMgbJAzUU-JyW010xqMGeF0FSv6vG382rLeAwr4ek

Folly

@Retrodade said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

@Folly nice i will do that!
i want to mention the Sinden guys have a hack version of lr-mame
the install is called " lr-mame-StormedBubbles"
they also have a few hack versions of other mame and mess
the install plays 3 "plug and play" light gun games

Mission: Paintball Powered Up (pballpup) - Perfect accuracy correction. Needs "Boot from CLI" enabled in core options.
Star Wars: Clone Trooper Blaster Game (swclone) - Perfect accuracy correction. Needs "Boot from CLI" enabled in core options.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant & Monster Mayhem (tmntmutm) - Perfect accuracy correction

of course this version of mame launches more than 3 games
but figured I'd mention it since these are plug and plays and maybe it could open more doors?

Do you want them to be added to category all_in1 ?
I think a non-arcade lightgun category is more appropriate, don't you think ? (is not yet there but can be created in add-systems-mamedev)
We can already sort on lightgun in the database and there are probably more similar games.
Another problem is that automating a category becomes more difficult because it becomes a compilation of quite some different stuff.
That means obviously more manual editing a category.
This is probably not the route to take.

What do you both think @Retrodade @DTEAM ?

Retrodade

@Folly yeah, I know what you mean.
they put them in its own category of "plug n play"
they are like jakks I guess? I have mine in arcade since its not LCD and I think 1 or 2 were tiger, I forget the other, thought it said Jakks, but no title load screen on one I believe, but the net search just shown a gun to plug into the TV
I'm just passing the info since they are plug n plays
but where they belong? that's a good question.
put them where you feel is best

I don't own a sinden, but their custom versions of Mame have great accuracy for light guns

DTEAM

@Retrodade said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

they put them in its own category of "plug n play"

Our plug n play category is "All in one" , i'll take a look next week. thanks

Folly

@DTEAM said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

@Folly

Hi Folly, are you able to run tsimquest.zip or 7z (Tiger - Castlevania Simon's Quest). I'm not able for now !

You can update the binary, it's now 250.
The game works.

DTEAM

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DTEAM

@Retrodade
Hi , I took a look and it's fine. They are "plug n play" and they were commercialized. @Folly, I think we could add them to "all in one", what do you think?

Folly

@DTEAM

Yes, that's ok.