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    • Folly
      Folly @DTEAM last edited by Folly

      @dteam said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

      @folly
      OMG 🤯
      If you are able to do that, It will be awesome!!!!

      ;-)

      I'll uninstalled my systems just to try It.

      It would be nice if you can test things.
      But be carefull, I can't guarantee anything yet.
      My advice don't wreck your good install, do you have a spare SD lying around ?

      When It will be finished, you should do a clean tutorial for that.

      Indeed, that should be done, so we can exchange things to improve and have it well documented.

      Note: I've try to use the real ColecoVision Mess romset (ex: bdash.zip with bdash.1 and bdash.2 inside) and I'm not able to run It excepted if I'm using It with "lr-Mess manual installation" refered to a Hash file. It doesn't work with your script and It doesnt work with those commands lines:

      mame-coleco= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip coleco -cart %ROM%"
      mame-coleco-hashf= "/opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -c -autoframeskip coleco $BASENAME% 
      

      BUT with jaguar.... It works

      Do you know why?
      Is It because when I do

      pi@raspberrypi:~ $ /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listmedia coleco
      

      The coleco rom extension for the coleco Mess romset wasn't there? For jaguar, It matches. It's strange.

      I will have to look at that, I can't tell why it isn't working now.

      This afternoon I spoke with ScreenScraper's MarbleMad to match the MAME / MESS system with the Screenscraper database and He said "The MESS naming system is a real mess, we are not ready to do that for now ". It's sad!

      Ok, sad indeed.

      Edit : I have added the very early test version on github :
      generate-systems-lr-mess_mame-1v6-alpha.sh

      (https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/tree/main/00-scripts-00)

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      • Folly
        Folly last edited by Folly

        @DTEAM

        I could not get bdash.zip working also.

        I found some strange things.
        MAME should be looking for bios files in :
        /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame
        But for coleco it wanted the bios in :
        /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/coleco/coleco.zip
        It also looks for a bios rom called 313 10031-4005 73108a.u2

        I got the bootlogo's from other games, so they seem to be running, but I can't do anything.

        Tested a few normal .col and I could play those.

        Perhaps an idea to improve your search for problems.
        If you add -v to your mame command you get a better verbose log in :
        /dev/shm/runcommand.log

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        • Folly
          Folly last edited by Folly

          @DTEAM

          It took me quite some time but it seems I have a working generator script.
          I tried to improve the file names and the names given to the commands.
          I also added quite some explaining in the script on how the script works.
          I still have to look out for some mistakes and I hope it still works on a fresh install.

          What it should do now is :

          • create module-scripts that work with an original RetroPie-setup (for lr-mess only the run_mess.sh from valerino is needed)
          • add all mame commands
          • add the rompaths in the commandlines (for now it was too difficult to add them in mame.ini)
          • use this BIOS directory for both lr-mess and mame : /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame

          I hope I can create a thread this week.

          This is the script so feel free to experiment :
          https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/blob/main/00-scripts-00/generate-systems-lr-mess_mame-1v8-alpha.sh

          EDIT :
          There still seems to be an issue with artwork.
          lr-mess doesn't load roms if mame artwork is present in :
          /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame/artwork
          Both emulators seem to share the same directory structure.

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          • DTEAM
            DTEAM @Folly last edited by DTEAM

            @folly said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

            EDIT :
            There still seems to be an issue with artwork.
            lr-mess doesn't load roms if mame artwork is present in :
            /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame/artwork
            Both emulators seem to share the same directory structure.

            Normally, games run and lr-Mess loads Artworks if you are able to go in the MAME UI menu with lr-mame and select Artwork. For some reason, I'm able to go in MAME UI when I press (select and Y) and in Retroarch UI with (select and X). With Lr-mess, you have access to Retroarch artwork and mess artwork. Maybe the problem is there?

            I'm gonna try generate-systems-lr-mess_mame-1v8-alpha.sh tomorrow. What do you prefer that I test. Handheld games above, lr-Mess systems like Vectrex, NES, Artworks?

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            • Folly
              Folly @DTEAM last edited by Folly

              @dteam

              Yes, it would be nice if you could test handhelds with mame and artwork.
              Can you then try if the handheld games also run with lr-mess ?

              Also testing some lr-mess systems using media would be great.
              As you said vextrex and nes will do for now.

              I like to hear what you think of the file/module naming and the commands that are being added in the emulators.cfg.
              Perhaps we can improve it somehow if we have better ideas.

              I added the version in the desired script and above systems are uncommented.
              So if you run the desired script it will generate those directly.

              The goal is to get it running with an original RetroPie-setup.
              Can you try with the original setup ?
              With the next command you only download the valerino run_mess.sh in the correct place :

              wget -nv -O /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/run_mess.sh https://raw.githubusercontent.com/valerino/RetroPie-Setup/master/scriptmodules/run_mess.sh
              
              

              run_mess.sh is only used if running games with lr-mess that use the -<media> option.

              **EDIT : I created a thread to discuss tests and improvements : **
              https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/29682/development-of-module-script-generator-for-lr-mess-and-mame-standalone

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              • Folly
                Folly @DTEAM last edited by

                @dteam

                Nice, I see you are integrating the script part in the first post. 👍

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                • Folly
                  Folly @DTEAM last edited by Folly

                  @dteam

                  I checked all handheld systems and discovered some systems that perhaps can be added.

                  I checked all your system files against mame0233 and added these to the repository :
                  commit 1

                  I removed an unknown system :
                  commit 2

                  I removed a double system :
                  commit 3

                  I added possible systems to add :
                  commit 4

                  The JAKKS and the unknown have to be checked the most before adding.
                  I am more confident that the others can just be added.

                  Can you check it before we add them ?

                  If you can keep the structure in post 2 the same that would be nice.

                  ( I have to tell you, I was quite some work checking it all ;-) )

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                  • DTEAM
                    DTEAM @Folly last edited by DTEAM

                    @folly

                    here, I have tested a lot of systems and the unworking are listed. For JAKKS, a lot of handheld doesn't work.

                    I removed an unknown system :

                    commit 2

                    For TBASKB

                    see http://adb.arcadeitalia.net/dettaglio_mame.php?game_name=tbaskb&arcade_only=0&autosearch=1

                    This pocket handheld exists and works. Maybe they change the name of the file?

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                    • Folly
                      Folly @DTEAM last edited by Folly

                      @dteam

                      Ok, so possibly there are still "non-working-systems" among them.
                      Well, for now, the data is somewhat registered.

                      So we can look at it another day then.


                      Edit :
                      I added tbaskb back in the list (last found in 0229) :
                      https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/commit/5454b8ab35b1ccf80288570b1872178b6ae7612a

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                      Add tbaskb / found last in mame0229 !
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                      • DTEAM
                        DTEAM @Folly last edited by DTEAM

                        @folly said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

                        I added possible systems to add :
                        commit 4

                        You can definitely go ahead for those (excepted Thomas and Friends)

                        Driver bndarc (Arcadia (Bandai)):
                        Driver bmcfball (Classic Football (Bambino)):
                        Driver cpacmanr1 (Pac-Man (Coleco, Rev. 28)):
                        Driver ebknight (Black Knight Pinball (Entex)):
                        Driver efootb4 (Color Football 4 (Entex)):
                        Driver einvaderc (Space Invader (Entex, COP444L version)):
                        Driver epacman2r (Pac Man 2 (Entex, red Pacman)):
                        Driver esbattle (Space Battle (Entex)):
                        Driver gpoker (Poker (Gakken, 1979 version)):
                        Driver mbaskb (Basketball (Mattel)):
                        Driver mchess (Computer Chess (Mattel)):
                        Driver mfootb2 (Football 2 (Mattel)):
                        Driver mhockey (Hockey (Mattel)):
                        Driver msoccer (Soccer (Mattel)):
                        Driver tmy_thom (Thomas and Friends (Tomy)):

                        For Game & Watch below:

                        Driver gnw_bfightn (Game & Watch: Balloon Fight (New Wide Screen)):
                        Driver gnw_climbern (Game & Watch: Climber (New Wide Screen)):
                        Driver gnw_dkcirc (Game & Watch: Donkey Kong Circus):
                        Driver gnw_smbn (Game & Watch: Super Mario Bros. (New Wide Screen)):

                        They are already covered by Madrigal romset or it's a different version like gnw_smbn and gnw_smb.
                        We should add them.

                        For Jakks (not playable) and those 2 :
                        Driver mdallas (Dalla$ (J.R. handheld)): --------> Board Game
                        Driver megajet (Mega Jet (Japan Mega Drive handheld)): -----------> Portable MegaDrive

                        It's a no go.

                        I'll work on the gamelist.xml files to add them and try to find some artwork for them.

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                        • Folly
                          Folly @DTEAM last edited by Folly

                          @dteam

                          I updated the databases.
                          (I still have to update them in the script) (updated)

                          Here you can check what I added :
                          (the red Drivers in the check_database_files are removed and added to the normal database_files)
                          https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/commit/9d7fe77b260441c9f66a360ef7a3b50ec171f38f

                          0 FollyMaddy committed to FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share
                          Update handheld databases
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                          • DTEAM
                            DTEAM @DTEAM last edited by

                            @dteam said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

                            Driver gnw_bfightn (Game & Watch: Balloon Fight (New Wide Screen)):
                            Driver gnw_climbern (Game & Watch: Climber (New Wide Screen)):
                            Driver gnw_dkcirc (Game & Watch: Donkey Kong Circus):
                            Driver gnw_smbn (Game & Watch: Super Mario Bros. (New Wide Screen)):

                            For those G&Watch, the MAME's Artworks was already in the Google drive folder

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                            • Folly
                              Folly @DTEAM last edited by

                              @dteam

                              Now you said, I looked into the folder.
                              Indeed they are already there !

                              Back then, you already added some future stuff ;-)
                              Magnificent !

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                              • DTEAM
                                DTEAM @Folly last edited by DTEAM

                                @folly
                                Same thing for epacman2r.zip

                                Now, I'm working on gamelist.xml files

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                                • DTEAM
                                  DTEAM @DTEAM last edited by DTEAM

                                  @Folly

                                  this one is a console

                                  Driver bndarc (Arcadia (Bandai)) not a handheld

                                  Arcadia (Bandai)

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                                  • DTEAM
                                    DTEAM @DTEAM last edited by

                                    @Folly

                                    Site with artworks for MESS and MAME

                                    http://discreteconsoles.blogspot.com/2015/11/

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                                    • Folly
                                      Folly @DTEAM last edited by Folly

                                      @dteam said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

                                      @Folly

                                      this one is a console

                                      Driver bndarc (Arcadia (Bandai)) not a handheld

                                      Arcadia (Bandai)

                                      I removed bndarc from the classich database and in the scripts.
                                      And updated the check_databases according to post 68 and 73.

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                                      • Folly
                                        Folly @DTEAM last edited by

                                        @dteam said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

                                        @Folly

                                        Site with artworks for MESS and MAME

                                        http://discreteconsoles.blogspot.com/2015/11/

                                        Looking nice.
                                        Can you find the download link ?

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                                        • DTEAM
                                          DTEAM @Folly last edited by

                                          @folly said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

                                          Can you find the download link ?

                                          unfortunately no

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                                          • DTEAM
                                            DTEAM @DTEAM last edited by DTEAM

                                            @Folly

                                            gamelist.xml for classich has been updated on Google Drive. Game and Watch was already ok.

                                            The list in post #2 has been updated too, according post 68

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