MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates
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@dankcushions Understood thanks. Did more checking and unfortunately it seems Deep Scan still has no sound even in latest mame. The fact is that vicdual machines had same mainboard but different specific soundboards.
On the other hand recently support for sound daughterboard in N-sub (another vicdual rom) has been added. I posted a comment on that github commit (here) requesting if this could help also for getting sounds in Deep Scan. If anybody wants to request it too there, maybe it can help ;-) -
@udb23 I am thinking maybe the best value in this kind of request would be to try to fix the root cause of the Service Mode issue—games like Sarge, Xenophobe, Rampage and a bunch of others that just stall at launch. I suspect there is some common cause (underlying original hardware similarities?). May it is already being tracked—but this would give us a bunch of games that we wouldn’t have to setup with other emulators.
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WOAW so cool to found some one working on MAME 2003 for PI (and PC)
It is one of the best emulator ever :)
On xBox 1, with a 700Ghz proc and 64 Mo RAM we can play so many games, why not on PI lolOn xBox Mr gamezfan help by IQ_132 update our MAME 2003 with many code and drivers take on the last PC MAME versions ... to have more games fixed and 100% playable and some new one, always on the old MAME core faster on old machines :)
Maybe, i think it is a good idea, you can speak with him and watch his code, compare with yours, to upgrade PI version like the xBox version. The best one i think for light computers.
If i remember fine, it is based on MameDox that is a fork of MAME 0.84.http://www.emuxtras.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=183&t=5732
The project began in 2013 ...
http://www.emuxtras.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=181&t=3349xBox Emulator & Source Code : 209 Mo
https://www.mediafire.com/file/wi9b92c88dofl2d/MAMEoXtras Final.7z -
@darknior mame 0.78 has an x86 dynarec for the MIPS cpu used by killer instinct, so it already runs much quicker on x86 hardware (eg a PC, or the original xbox). pi systems have an ARM cpu, and there is no dynarec for that. their code is not helpful here - i've already looked at it.
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@dankcushions Ok i understand it will not help for the CPU because it is not an ARM one for sure.
But it can help you to take fix for games, and drivers updates adapted for an old MAME. IQ_132 work hard a lot for it ...
I think it is a good idea ... or maybe not :p -
So news updates to come :)
https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-libretro/pull/109 -
@darknior could you mention any specific games that this fork of MAME is better at than mame2003? That would be a more helpful starting point :D
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@markwkidd I don't have test all the games myself ... and for the moment we use LR-FBA & MAME 2003 :p :(
My friend select FBA for most of games, and they are working fine.
But we will change ROMSET and settings to use more time MAME 2003. I love to have the CHEAT option for my little children, it is very important because if not, it is so hard and they can't play many games :(
And in MAME 2003 we also have an INPUT menu to configure PAD for each games.- I try Undercover cops : A game i love, on FBA the sound is crappy, on MAME 2010 it is better, but it is only perfect on MAME 2003 !
But my friend began again to test all the arcade games one by one to make a new working pack for our project. He will try to use most of time with the MAME 2010 version :)
Like he tell me, the guy of Happy game center write that 2010 version is the best one on PI.But you must correct some games like Undercover Cops, and add the CHEAT and INPUT menu to make it perfect.
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Mame 2003 was 0.78 version.
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I'm not sure the xBox version was maybe the 0.84
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The Mame 2010 version is the 0.139
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Gals panic S & S2 ... : I try them on PI and nothing work with FBA, MAME 2003 & 2010, on xBox they fix these games some years ago ;)
Adding fixing more than 150 games on xBox MAME : The best ever version for little computers.
9 Ball Shootout (Now Playable) 9 Ball Shootout championship Edition A.B. Cop (Now Playable) Action Fighter (Now Playable) Action Hollywood Added Sound for all the Rock' N Games Added Sound to Fire Barrel and Air Assault Air Rescue (Now Playable) Alien Storm official version (Now Playable) Arm Champs 2 Asura Buster Battle Balls (Now Playable) Battle Shark Joystick Version (Game Controls Perfectly Now) Beast Busters (Now Fully Playable) Billiard Academy Real Break Euro Version (Now Playable) Bloxeed (Now Playable) B-Rap Boys (Rollercoaster graphics bug fixed) Bullet (Now Playable) Chase Bombers (Now Playable) Clutch Hitter (Now Playble) Cotton (Now Playable) Crystal Castles (Joystick Version) Cute Fighters Daikaiju no Gyakushu (Now Playable) DD Crew (Now Playable) Denjin Makai (Now Playable) Desert Breaker (Now Playble) Donkey Kong Rainbow Edition (Now Playable) Double Wings Downtown Joystick version Dragon Ball-Z VRVS (Now Playable) Dragon World (Now Has Full Sound) Dunk Shot (Now Playable) Dyna Gear slowdown issues fixed Dynamite Dux official version (Now Playable) Eagle Shot Golf (Now Playable) E-SWAT Cyber Police official version (Now Playable) Excelsior Fantasy Zone II (Now Playable) Fantasy Zone Time Attack Bootleg (Now Playable) Fire Barrel Fire Shark (Now With Proper Sound) Fixed the random crashes in Gun Master (Game Now Fully Playable) Galaxy Force 2 (Now Playable) Gals Panic S3 (Now Playable) Gauntlet 2 (World 4 player Version) Ghox Joystick Version Glass (Now Playable) G-LOC Air Battle (Now Playable) Great Sluggers 94 (Now Has Sound) Guerrilla War Joystick Version Guts N Glory (Now Playable) Hangzo (Now Playable) Hard Times Heavy Smash Hot Mind Hyper Crash Ikari 3 The Rescue (Joystick Version) Ikari Warriors Joystick Version International Team Laser (Now Playable) Joshi Volleyball (Now Playable) Kabuki-Z Laser Ghost (Now Playable) Led Storm Rally 2011 (Now Playable) Lethal Enforcers Lethal Enforcers 2 Limited Edition Hang-On (Now Playable) Line Of Fire (Now Playable) Lord Of Gun (Now Playable No Sound) Lucky N Wild (Now Playable) Mach Breakers Numen Althletics 2 (Now Has Sound) Michael Jackon's Moonwalker official version (Now Playable) Midnight Resistance Joystick Bootleg Version (Now Playable) Mobil Suit Gundam Final shooting (Now Playable) Mouse Shooter GoGo MVP (Now Playable) Namco Classic Collection vol 2 (Now Playable) Nebulas Ray (Now Has Sound) Ninja Kazan (English version of Iga Ninjyutsuden) Operation wolf 3 (Fixed Controls Game Now Playable) Oriental Legend Special/Super (Now Playable) Outfoxies (Now Has Sound) Passing Shot (Official Version) (Now Playable) Photo Y2K (Now Playable) Planet Probe (Now Playable) Playchoice-10 Baseball Stars Be A Champ Playchoice-10 Mario's Open Golf Playchoice-10 Metroid Pocket Gal Deluxe Point Blank (Now Has Sound) Pop Bingo (Now Playable) Power Drift (Now Playable) Power Instinct 2 (USA Version) Power Instinct Legends (USA Version) Puzzle Stars (Now Playable) Rabbit Racing Beat Racing Hero (Now Playable) Raiden Fighters (Now Playable) Raiden Fighters 1 2 Jet Single Board Versions (Now Playable) Raiden Fighters 1 Single Board Version (Now Playable) Raiden Fighters 2 (Now Playable) Raiden Fighters 2 2000 Raiden Fighters jet (Now Playable) Raiden Fighters Jet 2000 Rail Chase (Now Playable) Raimais (World Version) Rapid Hero (Now Has Full Sound) Real & Fake (Now Playable) Road Riot 4WD (Fixed Controls Game Now Playable) Rock' N 3 Rock' N 4 Rock' N Tread 2 Rolling Crush Round Up 5 Super Delta Force Sand Scorpion Schmeiser Robo (Now Playable) Sexy Parodius English Version (Now Playable) Solitary Fighter (Now Playable) Star Wars Arcade (Now Somewhat Playable) Storm Blade (Bad graphics on levels 2-6 fixed) Strike Fighter (Now Playble) Super Bishi Bashi Championship Super Hang-On (Official Version) (Now Playable) Super Monaco GP (Now Playable) (Some GFX Niggles) Super Qix official version (Now Playable) Super World Court (English Language World Version) Teeter Torture (Now Playable) The New Zealand Story (New Rom Versions) Thunder Blade (Now Playable) Thunder Strike (Now Playable) Title Fight (USA Version) Top Blade V (Now Playable) Tough Turf (Now Playable ) Turbo Outrun (Now Playable With Some GFX Issues) Turbo Outrun (Now Playable) UFO Senshi Yohko chan (Now Playable) Ultra-X Weapons (Bad graphics on all levels fixed) Undercover Cops Alpha Renewal Version (Now Playable) Vimana (Now With Proper Sound) Violence Fight (Now Playable) Viper Phase 1 (Now Playable) Virtua Bowling (Now Playable) Where's Wally (Now Playable) Wing Force (Now Playable) Wing War (Now Playable) Wonder Boy In Monsterland (Official Sega English Version Now Playable) ...
Here are ALL the games added and correct on each release :
Final release : https://jpst.it/13PT-
MAMEoXtras v1.20.u3 Released : https://jpst.it/13Qbm
MAMEoXtras v1.20.u2 : https://jpst.it/13QsD
MAMEoXtras v1.19 : https://jpst.it/13Qw5
MAMEoXtras v1.18 : https://jpst.it/13Qwq
MameoXtras v1.17 : https://jpst.it/13QwN
MAMEoXtras v1.16 : https://jpst.it/13QwZ
MameoXtras v1.15 : https://jpst.it/13Qx8
MameoXtras v1.14 : https://jpst.it/13Qx9
MameoXtras v1.13 : https://jpst.it/13Qy4
MameoXtras v1.12 : https://jpst.it/13Qyg
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http://www.emuxtras.net/forum/search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&keywords=MAMEoXtras+Released&fid[]=181&sf=titleonly&start=10
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MameOxtras v1.1 : https://jpst.it/13QyC
MAMEoXtras v1.0 : https://jpst.it/13QyXThe 1.0 version with Darius screen fix etc ... was so fantastic, we don't have that on PI :(
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@darknior The only thing with lr-mame2010 is that all vertical games display at the wrong ratio (stretched) and the only way to correct it is from the Retroarch menu. I also like mame2010 because a lot of analogue games can be easily played with a d-pad, and a few games have joystick versions. Because mame2003 works well for most games no-one is going to bother to improve mame2010 (unless a Pi 4 is released maybe). FinalBurn doesn't care about accuracy so a few of the games play too fast (double dragon plays like it's 2x speed for example), and some games play slower than mame2003.
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@maxbeanz Thanks for your answer. If i understand fine, for you :
- At the moment on PI3 the best MAME to use is 2003 (0.78) !
Because it works well for most games :) - FBA is not accuracy and we must use it only for some games that not working on MAME 2003.
I use it for Neogeo with Universal BIOS and it works very fine, what do you think about that ? - MAME 2010: It show vertical games at wrong ratio but we can fix it, it is not a reason to like it ?
.................... It is best for games with analogue control to play with them DPad. Mame 2003 don't ? Have you a list of these games i'm interested. Like you speak about games with joystick ...
So bad no one want to update MAME 2010 to make works more games like on xBox, or update MAME 2003 drivers ... i know it is some work to do it, but it is not like creating a new emulator from scratch.
@gamez fan always write he don't know code, and only COPY PASTE drivers from other sources ... and when it is so hard IQ_132 help him :)Like you write we can stand, and i stand for the PI4 lol
More powerfull for 3DO, N64, Saturn, Dreamcast, PSP ... and arcade games.
Maybe it will help to found some one to upgrade MAME 2010 but it is not sure :(@markwkidd are my informations help you ?
@dankcushions You write me Mame 0.78 has an x86 dybarec for MIPS CPU used by some games ...
Nobody never code one for ARM on any MAME version ? - At the moment on PI3 the best MAME to use is 2003 (0.78) !
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@gamesfan is agree with me :) It can be really fantastic on PI to make same work on MAME than on xBox.
@gamesfan said :
Well they have a few MAME Emulators to choose from already from what i gather the older
MAME versions perform better on the PI while the newer cores not so much i guess the
best of both worlds kinda deal is to cherrypick some of the improvements and new game
support that we have in the MAMEoXtras Src and backport it to the PI MAME78 core.
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There would be a fair amount of graft in this due to the code diffs between the versions
i guess in the end it all comes down to whether on not active PI dev's are interested in
doing it i suppose they might have been more keen was it not for the multiple versions of
MAME they have already.
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The MAME84 core will actually support more games than MAME78 and that was even before
over the years we've updated the MAMEoXtras core to fix and add even more here is the
full breakdown of work done by myself and others maybe something might be of interest
here to those PI dev's who prefer the older MAME78 core.Full list of updates :
EmuXtras Presents.... A gamezfan and destronger co-production MAMEoXtras Final MAMEoXtras contains coding by: Erik Abair, opcode, luckyMIC, superfro, XPort, bendermike, Ebsy, HK$, IQ_132, gamezfan, destronger, cbagy, and BritneysPAIRS. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.emuxtras.net This is an update to MameDOX based on version 1.1 it contains new updated driver work by IQ_132 gamezfan and BritneysPAIRS, plus brand spanking new skins by destronger and cbagy, plus it features support for many Arcade games that are playable nowhere else on the Xbox. Thanks go out to floydthebarber for creating and sharing out the MAMEoXtras Best Of The Best Rompack and tattyfurby for creating all those Art and Sample packs. Big Thanks To.... MadMab +T+ Destronger Cbagy Bigby Retroplay Chaos IQ_132 hcf Waal XtecutorX73 For help guidance and support Thx alot guys couldn't have done it without you New Games Now playable Have Added Sound Support Or Speedhacks In This Release Osman (Now Playable) Boogie Wings (Now Playable) Double Dragon (Hacked to run fast) Charlie Ninja (Now Playable) Party Time : Gonta the Diver II (Now Playable) Rohga Armor Force (Now Playable) DJ Boy (Now Playable) Cabal (Now Playable with 3 button for rolling) Squash (Now Playable) Thunder Hoop (Now Playable) Task Force Harrier (Now Playable) Air Attack (Now Playable) Bioship (Now with Sound) Macross 1 and 2 (Now with Sound) Black Heart (Now with Sound) Gunnail (Now with Sound) Acrobat Mission (Now with Sound) Vandyke (Now with Sound) Koutetsu Yousai Strahl (Now with Sound) Exciting Hour (Now Playable) Mat Main (Now Playable) Mania Challenge (Now Playable) Avenging Spirits (Now Playable) Joe & Mac Returns (Now Playable) Chain Reaction (Now Playable) Magical Drop (Now Playable) Magical Drop Plus 1 (Now Playable) Multi Champ (Now Playable) Multi Champ Deluxe (Now Playable) Head Panic (Now Playable) Tang Tang (Now Playable) SWAT Police (Now Playable) Dream World (Now Playable) Diet Go Go (Now Playable) Night Slashers (Now Playable) Night Slashers (Uncensored Versions) with blood and gore (Now Playable) Fighters History (Now Playable) Skull Fang (Now Playable) World Cup Volley 95 (Now Playable) Hoops 96 (Now Playable) Dunk Dream 95 (Now Playable) Avengers In Galactic Storm (Now Playable) Escape Kids (Now Playable) Bonks Adventure (Now Playable) Explosive Breaker (Now Playable) Blood Warrior (Now Playable with a little background glitches) Shogun Warriors (Now Playable) Fujiyama Buster (Now Playable) B Rap Boys (Now Playable) B Rap Boys Special (Now Playable) Thunder Heroes (Now Playable) Riot (Now Playable) Twin Action (Now Playable) Stagger I (Now Playable) Red Hawk (Now Playable) Guardian Storm (Now Playable) Sen Jin (Now Playable) Bubble 2000 (Now Playable) Hot Bubble (Now Playable) Pop's Pop's (Now Playable) Mang-Chi (Now Playable) Spectrum 2000 (Now Playable) Fire Hawk (Now Playable) Mighty Warriors Ironclad (Now Playable) Tetris the Absolute The Grand Master 2 (Now Playable) Tetris the Absolute The Grand Master 2 Plus (Now Playable) Double Dragon 3 (Japanese and Clones Now Playable) Cosmic Alien (Now with Sound) Bakuretsu Breaker (Now Playable) US Mustang (Now Fixed) Hacha Mecha Fighter (Now Playable) Koutetsu Yousai Strahl (Now with Sound) Street Fighter 1 (Hacked to run fast) FixEight (Now Playable) Neo Pong (Now Playable) Gun Master (Now Playable) Recalhorn (Now Playable) Bang Busters (Now Playable) Counter Run (Now Playable) Donkey Kong 2 (Hack Added) Donkey Kong Foundry (Hack Added) Baryon (Now Playable) Final Fight (Hack Added) Virtua Fighter 1 (Playable) Metal Slug 6 (Hack Added) Golden Tee 3D golf (Now Playable) Golden Tee 97 (Now Playable) Golden Tee 98 (Now Playable) Golden Tee 99 (Now Playable) Golden Tee 2k (Now Playable) Golden Tee Classic Golf (Now Playable) Title Fight (Now Playable) F1 Grand Prix Star 2 (Now Playable) Twin Cobra 2 (Now Playable) Hyper Street Fighter 2 (Now Playable) Battle Shark JoyStick Version (Now Playable) Hyper Crash (Now Playable) Kabuki-Z (Now Playable) Arm champs 2 (Now Playable) Raiden Fighters 2 2000 (Now Playable) Raiden Fighters Jet 2000 (Now Playable) Action Hollywood (Now Playable) Gauntlet 2 4 player version (Now Playable) Mouse Shooter GoGo (Now Playable) Power Instinct 2 USA Version (Now Playable) Guerrilla War Joystick Version (Now Playable) Ikari Warriors Joystick Version (Now Playable) Super World Court World Version (Now Playable) Power Instinct Legends (Now Playable) Ikari Warriors 3 Joystick Version (Now Playable) Crystal Castles Joystick Version (Now Playable) Downtown Joystick Version (Now Playable) Ghox Joystick Version (Now Playable) Heavy Smash (Now Playable) Super Bishi Bashi Championship (Now Playable) Pocket Gal Deluxe (Now Playable) Round Up 5 Super Delta Force (Now Playable) Fighting Hawk (Fixed slowdown Issues) Sand Scorpion (Now Playable) Hard Times (Now Playable) Excelsior (Now Playable) Hot Mind (Now Playable) Racing Beat (Now Playable) Asura Buster (Now Playable) Double Wings (Now Playable) Racing Beat (Now Playable) Fire Barrel (Now Playable) Rock'N Tread (Now With sound) Rock'N Tread 2(Now Playable) Rock'N 3 (Now Playable) Rock'N 4 (Now Playable) Air Assault (Now Playable) Raiden Fighters (Now Playable) Raiden Fighters 2 (Now Playable) Raiden Fighters Jet (Now Playable) Raiden Fighters 1, 2, Jet, Single Board Versions (Now Playable) Viper Phase 1 (Now Playable) Rapid Hero (Now Has Sound) Pop Bingo (Now Playable) Virtua Bowling (Now Playable) Cool Pool (Now Playable) 9 Ball Shoot Out (Now Playable) Battle Balls (Now Playable) Teeter Torture (Now Playable) Guts N Glory (Now Playable) Lord Of Gun (Now Playable No Sound) UFO Senshi Yohko chan (Now Playable) Gals Panic S3 (Now Playable) International Team Laser (Now Playable) Road Riot 4WD (Fixed Controls Game Now Playable) billiard Academy Real Break Euro Version (Now Playable) Fixed Bad Controls in Operation wolf 3 Thunder Strike (Now Playable) Rolling Crush (Now Playable) Lethal Enforcers (Now Playable) Lethal Enforcers 2 (Now Playable) 9 Ball Shootout Championship Edition (Now Playable) Double Dragon (Fixed End Of Game Crash) Cute Fighters (Now Playable) Air Rescue (Now Playable) Dragon Ball-Z VRVS (Now Playable) Mobil Suit Gundam Final shooting (Now Playable) Eagle Shot Golf (Now Playable) Top Blade V (Now Playable) Lucky N Wild (Now Playable) Daikaiju no Gyakushu (Now Playable) Wonder Boy In Monsterland (Offical Sega English Version Now Playable) Nebulas Ray (Now Has Sound) Outfoxies (Now Has Sound) Point Blank (Now Has Sound) Great Sluggers 94 (Now Has Sound) Mach Breakers Numen Althletics 2 (Now Has Sound) Super World Stadium 95,96,97 (Now all Have sound) J-League Soccer V-Shoot (Now Has Sound) Born To Fight (Now Playable) Gaia The Last Choice Of Earth (Now Playable) Shrike Avenger (Now Playable) Bio-Hazard Battle (Now Playable) Columns 3 (Now Playable) Golden Axe 2 (Now Playable) Shinobi III (Now Playable) Sonic The Hedgehog 2 (Now Playble) Streets Of Rage II (Now Playable) Tecmo World Cup (Now Playble) Rumba Lumber (Now Playable) D-Day (Now Playable) Parallel Turn (Now Playable) Hot Chase (Now Playable) Doki Doki Penguin Land (Now Playable) Arch Rivals 8-Way Joystick Version (Now Playable) Puyo Puyo official World Version (Now Playable) Mirax (Now Playable) (No Sound) Donkey Kong Pauline Edition (Now Playable) Chase Bombers (Now Playable) Denjin Makai (Now Playable) Glass (Now Playable) Wing Force (Now Playable) Namco Classic Collection Vol 2 (Now Playable) Donkey Kong Rainbow Edition (Now Playable) Snow Board Championship (Now Playable) World Cup Volley 95 Extra Edition (Now Playable) Professor Pac-Man (Now Playable) Crack Down (Now Playable) Gain Ground (Now Playable) Rough Racer (Now Playable) Sonic Boom (Now Playable) Super Masters Golf (Now Playable) BackFire (Now Playable) 1943-The Battle Of Midway Mark II (Now Playable) Crossed Swords 2 (Now Playable) Last Hope (Now Playable) The Lost Castle In DarkMist (Now Playable) Mustache Boy (Now Has Sound) Digger Man (Now Playable) Raiders (Now Playable) Touch N Go (Now Playable) Donkey Kong Remix (Now Playable) Goal92 (Now Playable Again) 96 Flag Rally (Now Playable) Slap Fight offical Version (Now Playable) Alcon (Now Playable) Oriental Legend Special (Now Playable) Puzzle Star (Now Playable) Real And Fake / Photo Y2K (Now Playable) Sexy parodius (English Version) (Now Playable) Alien Storm (Offical Versions) (Now Playable) Bloxeed (Now Playable) Bullet (Now Playable) Clutch Hitter (Now Playable) Cotton (Now Playable) DD Crew (Now Playable) Desert Breaker (Now Playable) Dynamite Dux (Official Version (Now Playable) EWAT Cyber Police Official Version (Now Playable) Fantasy Zone II (Now Playable) Fantasy Zone Time Attack (Now Playable) Lazer Ghost (Now Playable) Michael Jackson's Moonwalker (Official Version) (Now Playable) Super Qix (Official Version) (Now Playable) Turbo Outrun (Now Playable) Tough Turf (Now playable) Where's Wally (Now Playable) Action Fighter (Now Playable) Super Hang-On (Official Version) (Now Playable) Limited Edition Hang-On (Now Playable) Thunder Blade (Now Playable) A.B. Cop (Now Playable) Racing Hero (Now Playable) Super Monaco GP (Now Playable) (Some GFX Niggles) Galaxy Force 2 (Now Playable) G-LOC Air Battle (Now Playable) Power Drift (Now Playable) Rail Chase (Now Playable) Strike Fighter (Now Playble) Line Of Fire (Now Playable) Dunk Shot (Now Playable) MVP (Now Playable) Passing Shot (Official Version) (Now Playable) Undercover Cops Alpha Renewal Version (Now Playable) Wing War (Now Playable) Star Wars Arcade (Now Somewhat Playable) Joshi Volleyball (Now Playable) Hangzo (Now Playable) Schmeiser Robo (Now Playable) Slipstream (Now Playable) Dark Edge (Now Playable) Graphic Fixes For..... Raiden Fighters Raiden Fighters 2 Raiden Fighters Jet Viper Phase 1 Battle Balls Raiden Fighters Jet 2000 Raiden Fighters 2 2000 Golden Axe II Arabian Fight Spiderman Hyper Crash Sand Scorpion Dyna Gears Storm Blade Ultra X Weapons B-Rap Boys PlayChoice 10 Metroid playchoice 10 Mario Golf Playchoice 10 Baseball Stars Fire Barrel/Air Assault Goal92 Outrun Turbo Outrun Super Hang-on Limited Edition Hang-On Gunforce II Ghosts N Goblins Great Swordsman Sound or sample support added for...... Vanguard Sasuke vs. Commander Satan of Saturn Zarzon Fantasy Pioneer Balloon Nibbler Ghox Teki Paki Rock'N Tread Games Raiden Fighters games Fire Barrel/Air Assault Double Wings Rapid Hero Namco Classic Collection Vol 1 Namco Classic Collection Vol 2 Gorf Wizard Of Wor Robby Roto Space Zap Professor Pac-Man Sea Wolf 2 Extra Bases Chequered Flag Mustache Boy The Lost Castle In Dark Mist Rohga Armor Force Goal92 Riding Fight Ring Rage New Correct Samples for...... Donkey Kong Donkey Kong 2 Donkey Kong Pauline Edition Donkey Kong Rainbow Edition Donkey Kong Foundry Donkey kong Jr Spiders (Now Has Sample Sound) Gorf Wizard Of Wor Playable with some issues Virtua Racing (Now Playable ) some track Logic Problems Flying Tiger (now Playable) Wrong Colours Vamp 1/2 (Now Playable) Slow on stock xboxes maybe upgraded boxes will play it better?? Rabbit (Now Playable) Slow on stock xboxes maybe upgraded boxes will play it better?? Reinstated Some Drivers Which Had Support Removed like..... Nintendo Playchoice Nintendo VS Fixed The following Multi Screen Games To Load Full Screen TV Aspect Darius Darius 2 Lode Runner The Dig Fight Tecmo Bowl The Ninja Warriors Warrior Blade Rastan Saga 3 Backfire Full VMM Testing Done All games should now load without having to adjust the VMM settings Games with Analog control Fixes Button Remappings etc 88 Games 720 American Horseshoes APB Arkanoid Arkanoid Return Of Doh Bad Lands Bigrun 11th Rally Blasteroids Camel Try Centipede Championship Sprint Chase HQ Chequered Flag Continental Circus Crystal Castles Danny sullivans Indycar Heat Demolition Derby Discs Of Tron Double Axle Enduro Racer Escape Planet Of The Robot Monsters Gotcha Mini Game Festival Grand Prix Star F1 Exhaust Note F1 GP star 2 Food Fight Hot Chase Hydra (Fixed Pedal to start Game) Hyper Sports Hyper Olympics Jurassic Park Konami GT Marble Madness Milliped Missle Command Numan Athletics Night Striker Outrun Outrunners Pole Position Pole Position 2 Prebillion Return Of The Jedi Reactor Road Blasters Road Riots Revenge Road Runner Sinister Space Harrier Special Criminal Investigation Steel Gunner Steel Gunner 2 Super Sprint Tempest The irritating Maze Thunder Ceptor Top Speed Track N Field Wec-Le-Mans Mapped some Gun Games to use the D-Pad makes controling the crosshare with the gamepad easier Alien 3 The Gun Bang Battle Shark Beast Busters Chiller Dragon Gun Egg Venture Deluxe Lethal Justice Lethal Enforcers Lethal Enforcers 2 Mechanised Attack One Shot One Kill Operation Wolf Operation Thunderbolt Operation wolf 3 Police Trainer Point Blank Space Gun Steel Gunner Steel Gunner 2 Tickee Tickets Zero Point Zero Point 2 Zombie Raid There Was A screen Tearing Issue which is fixed in this version Turned On Blood/Violence in these games Dungeon Magic Metal Slug Games Night slashers Overseas Rev Shock Troopers Dragoon Might Violence Fight Lethal Enforcers 2 Switched Bonks Adventure to English Language Fixed The End Of Level Crash In Rampage World Tour New Dat File Included Updated Help File For General Usage Tips Press Start And Choose Help Q How do i install this emulator A See below First check your xbox E:\Tdata\4d414d46 folder to make sure there is no previous save file folder inside it If there is it will be called system just remove it before booting MAME0XTRAS for the 1st time To install on your Xbox HDD just simply pick your preferred emulator folder and FTP it across Q Why When i try to start a game the Emulator loads a different one and Then Errors out A You didn't remove your previous save file before booting up this new version Q How do i skip warnings before the games load A In the main menu make sure all skip warning settings are enabled Q What games does this play A Mame arcade games only Q Does it play console games A Dont be a daftie Q Does it play Final Burn Legends Arcade Games A Nope use FBL v1.20 100% LOCK FREE 100% Open Source enjoy destronger and gamezfan
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mame2010 also doesn't support more than 2 players. i would update it but there's a lot to do, and for me i think mame2003 is better for pi as more games are full speed. at some point, just run latest mame on a better CPU if you want most games supported.
@darknior said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:
@dankcushions You write me Mame 0.78 has an x86 dybarec for MIPS CPU used by some games ...
Nobody never code one for ARM on any MAME version ?as far as i know they have only ever implemented dynarecs for x86 platforms. maybe one from an n64 emulator could be backported, but i wouldn't be able to do that.
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I could have a look at lr-mame2010 issues again.
I had a look like a year ago to get it working on my XU4 and indeed the libretro port of it is very primitive compared to MAME 2003. -
@dankcushions said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:
as far as i know they have only ever implemented dynarecs for x86 platforms. maybe one from an n64 emulator could be backported, but i wouldn't be able to do that.
Thanks, yes it's what i think, take it from an other emulator and include in MAME. But i know it is many many work to do ... N64 is a good choice :)
@dankcushions said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:
mame2010 also doesn't support more than 2 players
WOAW ... Only 2 players, no cheat and no input conf by game ... i really don't like this emu lol
To update MAME 2003 it is not a real coder work. Like write @gamesfan he copy and past drivers. And with the time he become stronger to do it and update MAME more and more. It's why i wish and i think it is possible to found some one to do it :) :p
For the hard work, at the moment we also have IQ_132 that help a lot ...If nobody do it, we will never have all the good Arcade games on our PI.
The PI 4, 5, 6 will be stronger and faster, but the ARM problem and drivers problems will be always here :( -
@darknior said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:
To update MAME 2003 it is not a real coder work. Like write @gamesfan he copy and past drivers. And with the time he become stronger to do it and update MAME more and more. It's why i wish and i think it is possible to found some one to do it :) :p
but not you? hmm.
it is not so simple. mame had a big refactor soon after 0.78 (i think before 0.84) which changed a lot of the memory stuff and the driver structure. it's not so easy to backport new drivers to this old version.
besides, Iq_132 is working on fba now: http://neosource.1emulation.com/forums/index.php?topic=980.0
fba works great on the pi3, so that's where your best hope of getting mame drivers backported. i am not interested in changing the core emulation of mame 0.78 - i have enough to do with making sure the libretro version works well (controls, etc) -
@darknior said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:
If nobody do it, we will never have all the good Arcade games on our PI.
I disagree. I think we have a great combination of working arcade emulators on the Pi for all of the "good Arcade games", and with emulator overlap, we actually choices for many of the classics. This lets us get away with smaller boards like the Zero.
Imagine if the recent effort poured into lr-mame2003 was misdirected to mame4all. I think we have a good balance of performance and romset coverage with 2003 and it was the right place to focus on features and enhancements.
Let's not forget AdvanceMAME which takes up some slack too, especially with vector games (which also work in 2003, they just look better in AdvMAME). You also get a bump in the romset to .106.
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@darknior said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:
If nobody do it, we will never have all the good Arcade games on our PI.
He's just plugging the emulator he uses frequently and looking toward the future which is ok or maybe specific games he would like to see working like Gal's Panic (games_fan said they have been playable in FBA for a while now...I saw that post). ;)
I wouldn't say intentions are bad by any means and the emulation scene isn't quite that dire either. You might think several of these old platforms would be on life-support but the force of nostalgia is strong. Most are quite healthy and prospering.
I saw your other post in another forum about either poor explanation or lack of motivation to show interest to merge the two projects. People due to time restraints, family, resources, etc. do what they can when they can. Someone seems to tweak them eventually for the most popular games and a few others if they are feeling it.
It basically looks like MAME port to the XBOX based on 0.84 with a few extra games? That's a tough sell when mame2003 is sitting so close. Each successive version does add more games but between 0.78 and 0.84 are they main stream quality games of significance or just additional clones and niche games.
My other thought is what is the goal? It seems like the target demographic is entirely different. Basically XBOX (x86) vs. Pi (ARM). I think the majority of users here are Pi based but not all. I don't think it's a lack of motivation at all as stated on the other forum.
I do think you make a good point here.
To update MAME 2003 it is not a real coder work. Like write @gamesfan he copy and past drivers. And with the time he become stronger to do it and update MAME more and more.
The groups that program these drivers from scratch I would imagine are a pretty small circle and the rest are cutting, pasting or tweaking from that code. Kind of like a hacker vs. a script kiddie or skiddie. If it was easy then this conversation wouldn't even exist. Talking and understanding "theory" vs. actual implementation are two different things entirely!
Imagine if the recent effort poured into lr-mame2003 was misdirected to mame4all.
I wouldn't call it a total misdirect or even a TKO...yet...sometimes active development dictates direction. I do prefer the shaders and analog stick support but prefer mame4all's input configuration. I can't think of any "deal breaker" mainstream games that are supported in 0.78 vs. 0.37b5 but if I remember I think I had to move a few significant games to AdvMAME that 0.78 broke when phasing out mame4all-pi. All the golden age era games where implemented early in the MAME development cycle in addition.
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@dankcushions said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:
but not you? hmm.
Yes i think if one day i have free time, i will try ... i think i can do it. I will not code new drivers like write @Riverstorm ... i will use them and adapt them. But for the moment i'm already in a project with friends, tons of games to try, many Xtra to release (Covers, videos, title) a new skin ... i can't do all my self lol
And i don't speak of my wife and my children :p
I know for Iq_132, but he always help coders on xBox on MAME & FBA, it is a cool guy if we have questions.@caver01 I don't try AdvanceMAME ... is it really better for Vector games ? Or others ?
I must try some good vector games and search if we can use the background images on MAME.@Riverstorm you are real, all the quality games where add on MAME v0.78 & 0.84. No many more after that ... but some ... AND some fix, and there are really interesting to make some games working better.
@gamesfan add many fix to make games playable.Gal's Panic S & S2 don't work on the PI version of FBA ... so strange ... on x86 they works fine.
But we made new tests, with the good ROMSET and the last MAME 2003 compiled from source and now they are working fine :)
We will try on the FULL SET one by one !@riverstorm said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:
I saw your other post in another forum about either poor explanation or lack of motivation to show interest to merge the two projects. People due to time restraints, family, resources, etc. do what they can when they can. Someone seems to tweak them eventually for the most popular games and a few others if they are feeling it.
I'm ok with you, same problem for me. It's why search some coders to help. And only to add great games, no crappy clones. It's what @gamesfan do. Or fixing bugs, speed and controls.
I don't know AdvMAME or the set to use with it. It is not a LR emulator with all the cool LR options ... but if you write me it works fine, i can try it for some games.
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@darknior said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:
@gamesfan is agree with me :) It can be really fantastic on PI to make same work on MAME than on xBox.
Well im not sure that i agree with ya buddy not knowing the in's and out's of MAME Emulation on the PI, from reading the posts it's maybe time you let up on this :)
BTW your after some Kaneko Supernova games Gals Panic Series right..?? did you know that in currant FBA dink has added some speedhacks to the
driver which are hooked to the SH-2 CPU core this should give the games a significant performance boost.Im not sure what version of FBA the currant PI port is based from but check the dip switch options where the speedhacks can be enabled or better yet ask
one of the FBA PI dev's to enable them by default in the driver.Edit seems like i jumped the gun i assumed wrongly you were having trouble around the performance of the Supernova games i see now from your last post these
games actually dont work in PI FBA for some reason on ARM based hardware i know the RA boys have similar problems with their FBA port.Regards!!
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@darknior said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:
I don't know AdvMAME or the set to use with it.
It uses MAME 0.106. Follow this guide for tweaking AdvMAME to vector game nirvana! Vector games look better on AdvMAME than any other emulator so far due to vector specific features exclusive to AdvMAME and @caver01 has written an excellent guide to achieve those results. Look at the link to see a few screenshots! :)
Im not sure what version of FBA the currant PI port is based from
- lr-fbalpha - v0.2.97.42
- lr-fbalpha2012 - v0.2.97.30
- PiFBA - v0.2.96.71
Here's a link to the FBA Pi documentation. The lr- prefixed to the name signifies it's a Libretro core that uses Retroarch as a front-end in contrast to PiFBA which is standalone. They all use Emulationstation as the graphical user interface & RetroPie to further unify the settings and added functionality under one GUI.
The number of emulators and ports supported is incredible. Even the standalone emulators many times can be tweaked to mimic Retroarch inputs so as to function the same such as adding credits and exiting emulators. This helps make GUI interface integration seamless. The links should help explain.
Main RetroPie documentation page. The "Arcade" link on the left side is where you'll locate the MAME documentation for the different emulators and the corresponding ROM set versions used.
Also there's specific sections as they pertain to RetroPie in regards to Retroarch & Emulationstation. The documentation for RetroPie is extremely useful if you want to learn about it.
Yes i think if one day i have free time, i will try ... i think i can do it.
That would be wonderful! ;)
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