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    • FollyF
      Folly @Lister of Smeg
      last edited by

      @lister-of-smeg

      I am compiling now.

      It wasn't working with downloading the source.
      I now use :

      git clone https://github.com/SteveFosdick/b-em.git
      cd b-em
      ./autogen.sh
      ./configure
      make
      
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      • Lister of SmegL
        Lister of Smeg @Folly
        last edited by

        @folly
        I think this version is as close as we will get - maybe mine was a few commits earlier
        I have the master version of elite running and the cpu is only hitting 30%
        Sound may be a little bit more 'glitchy' but not a deal breaker

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        • FollyF
          Folly @Lister of Smeg
          last edited by Folly

          @lister-of-smeg

          Cool, it works
          I tried some bitshifters-demos.
          It works reasonably good but it has some hiccups.
          But it seems we are on the right track.;-)
          I will look at it again tomorrow.

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          • Lister of SmegL
            Lister of Smeg @Folly
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            @folly
            after much searching and testing I found this version https://github.com/hoglet67/b-em/tree/263d2d44e53e593d1f51c0be9b9f404447fb33a3 to be the best overall (speech in repton3 as good as the beeb got and the arcadians tune as good as my original upload here)
            here is the precompiled binary https://www104.zippyshare.com/v/QoyhNZAp/file.html

            given the number of forks and commits available, I see no hope of finding the exact files I had

            • after a bit more testing i'm starting to think this version is a little better than the one I was originally using

            have a play and see what you think is for the best :)

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            • FollyF
              Folly @Lister of Smeg
              last edited by Folly

              @lister-of-smeg

              Nice, I will have a look later this day.

              The hoglet67 fork if the same as this tree from the original master branch :
              ( Edit : tested : quite good :-) )
              https://github.com/stardot/b-em/tree/263d2d44e53e593d1f51c0be9b9f404447fb33a3

              I think this is a nice starting point.
              I think we should take it from the master branch.

              I think this is the last one of the latest with allegro4, we should try this one too :
              ( Edit : tested : not so good :-( )
              https://github.com/stardot/b-em/tree/fc8f15f42f134cb35591587b7aafda9fcebffed8

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              • Lister of SmegL
                Lister of Smeg @Folly
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                @folly
                hi,
                just tried the last allegro 4 version and the audio is not right (startup beeps stutter / speech synthesis is off)
                good call on taking from the master branch - have a play with the last one I suggested, I think it might just hit the sweet spot for speed and sound

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                • FollyF
                  Folly @Lister of Smeg
                  last edited by

                  @lister-of-smeg said in BBC Micro / Acorn Electron Emu:

                  @folly
                  hi,
                  just tried the last allegro 4 version and the audio is not right (startup beeps stutter / speech synthesis is off)
                  good call on taking from the master branch - have a play with the last one I suggested, I think it might just hit the sweet spot for speed and sound

                  I think so too, had the same experience as you.

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                  • Lister of SmegL
                    Lister of Smeg @Folly
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                    @folly
                    slightly off topic but I just found out that the Archimedes emulator 'Arculator' has been given a linux port (haven't tried it yet - I think i'll need buster) the windows version is nice tho
                    https://stardot.org.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18223
                    I'm liking the idea of bringing all the acorns back to pi :p

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                    • FollyF
                      Folly @Lister of Smeg
                      last edited by

                      @lister-of-smeg

                      Nice !

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                      • FollyF
                        Folly @Lister of Smeg
                        last edited by Folly

                        @lister-of-smeg

                        I have a working module-script, basically.
                        I have to tweak this to get it better and pre-setting stuff in b-em.cfg.

                        Video modes in combination with not setting borders is still somewhat an issue.

                        And do we want to use more machines and make separate module-scripts for them?
                        Then I should give each machine it's own emulator directory an it's b-em.cfg.
                        ( I have to think about that )

                        Basically, it works pretty good on the RPI3 !

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                        • Lister of SmegL
                          Lister of Smeg @Folly
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                          @folly
                          'And do we want to use more machines and make separate module-scripts for them?'
                          good question
                          99% of games will run with the 'BBC B w/8271 FDC' model
                          with only 1% of games needing the 'Master 128', personally i'm ok with just changing the model in the f11 gui as and when required (on my pi whichever model was used last is the one that opens next time) then <shift-break(f12)> to boot the discs
                          however,
                          I grew up with acorn machines and know the commands to change to tape/disc/rom as needed
                          Personally I would just start with a single config and see what the feedback is from users not familiar with the hardware?

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                          • FollyF
                            Folly @Lister of Smeg
                            last edited by

                            @lister-of-smeg

                            Come to think of it.

                            I can do the machine setting into the command-line.
                            So we can choose 'BBC B w/8271 FDC' or 'Master 128'.
                            Then we can add more in the future if needed.
                            With this "solution" , they will use the same b-em.cfg !

                            I will experiment with it a bit.

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                            • Lister of SmegL
                              Lister of Smeg @Folly
                              last edited by

                              @folly
                              sounds good
                              looking forward to testing :)

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                              • FollyF
                                Folly @Lister of Smeg
                                last edited by Folly

                                @lister-of-smeg

                                I have added the initial module-script on github.
                                The emulator seems to be quite similar to the elkulator one.
                                Seems I am going through somewhat the same process.

                                The emulator runs with xinit in the matchbox as a "window".
                                For now I added the matchbox hotkeys "ctrl+c" to be able to exit the emulator.

                                You should use the same resolution settings as you did with elkulator.
                                I tested this also on my TV, and I have the same screen cut-off problem.

                                You have to know that this version is the base and perhaps far from perfect.
                                If we have some time to work on it then I think we can improve this.

                                Here you can find it :
                                https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/tree/main/00-scriptmodules-00/emulators

                                Download itwith this command to the RetroPie-Setup :

                                wget -nv -O /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/emulators/b-em-allegro4.sh https://raw.githubusercontent.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/main/00-scriptmodules-00/emulators/b-em-allegro4.sh
                                
                                

                                Btw, I removed the flags from elkulator module-script as it turned out I turned it off for RPI3.
                                Don't know if you have the latest version.
                                But with this version I added fullscreen and exit with esc in the C code.

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                                • Lister of SmegL
                                  Lister of Smeg @Folly
                                  last edited by Lister of Smeg

                                  @folly
                                  i'm struggling a bit with the usage - no rp flags for retropie-setup & when I directly run the script I get this
                                  pi@retropie:~/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/emulators $ ./b-em-allegro4.sh
                                  ./b-em-allegro4.sh: line 7: syntax error near unexpected token newline' ./b-em-allegro4.sh: line 7: <!DOCTYPE html>'

                                  am I doing something wrong?
                                  nevermind - me being dumb running now

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                                  • FollyF
                                    Folly @Lister of Smeg
                                    last edited by

                                    @lister-of-smeg

                                    Indeed you can't execute it "standalone".
                                    Paste the script inside /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/emulators.
                                    Run RetroPie-Setup, that should work.

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                                    • Lister of SmegL
                                      Lister of Smeg @Folly
                                      last edited by Lister of Smeg

                                      @folly
                                      NICE!
                                      I had to add bbcallegro4 = "XINIT:/opt/retropie/emulators/b-em-allegro4/b-em %ROM%
                                      to emulators.cfg and change to cea=17 from runcommand
                                      I like that the gui is fully visible now :D
                                      tested on buster btw

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                                      • FollyF
                                        Folly @Lister of Smeg
                                        last edited by Folly

                                        @lister-of-smeg said in BBC Micro / Acorn Electron Emu:

                                        @folly
                                        NICE!
                                        I had to add bbcallegro4 = "XINIT:/opt/retropie/emulators/b-em-allegro4/b-em %ROM%
                                        to emulators.cfg and change to cea=17 from runcommand
                                        I like that the gui is fully visible now :D

                                        I did try that line too (bbcallegro4 = "XINIT:/opt/retropie/emulators/b-em-allegro4/b-em %ROM%)

                                        But then I have no keyboard control if I don't use the "Desktop".
                                        Does this work on your side ?

                                        How do you run RetroPie ?

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                                        • Lister of SmegL
                                          Lister of Smeg @Folly
                                          last edited by Lister of Smeg

                                          @folly
                                          I just used the gamepad to launch & play arcadians from the retropie front end
                                          i've just installed again on my stretch image - i'll try again just using keyboard

                                          on stretch i'm getting kicked back to the game selection screen when selecting bbcb or master as the default emulator
                                          it seems the b-em binary was missing from /opt/retropie/emulators/b-em-allegro4 (?weird?) when I manually added it everything works as expected
                                          it's nice to be able to exit with ctrl+c
                                          I think the best thing I should do here is install a fresh buster image and start testing from there?

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                                          • FollyF
                                            Folly @Lister of Smeg
                                            last edited by

                                            @lister-of-smeg

                                            Can you see in your last log in /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/logs ?
                                            Perhaps there is a clue on why the binary isn't there.

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