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    Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone

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    • DTEAMD
      DTEAM @DTEAM
      last edited by DTEAM

      @dteam
      Now It works hehe

      Mess romset (.zip) works and BIOS 0.229 also. I did a bad file extraction from zip to FileZilla. Sometime the gameplay is a pain in the ass, but It works.

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      • FollyF
        Folly @DTEAM
        last edited by Folly

        @dteam

        Seems most people do it that way.

        I use my pi as desktop computer + retropie.

        Perhaps an idea to use a "raspberry pi os with desktop" and install retropie on top, then you don't have to struggle with ssh and filezilla.
        On the pi4 "emulationstation" can run in the desktop environment.
        Or you can just boot in cli or go back in cli and run "emulationstation" without going to the desktop. (works with pretty much all pi's)
        You can even run games from the file manager if you install my RetroRun script. (works with pretty much all pi's)

        Interesting ?

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        • DTEAMD
          DTEAM @Folly
          last edited by DTEAM

          @folly

          On my side, I'm running RetroPie on a handheld build. I did that for a Pi3 more than 2 years ago and I converted It for a Pi4 (It's really tight). I have used recycled materials (screws, old controller, LEGO parts, wooden tin for clementines, door screen, springs, old plank, old pencil basket) and materials from my children's DIY material basket (Popsicle sticks and toothpicks). Maybe It looks like hell but the gameplay is wonderfull , it's solid and the battery is huge (10000 mAh). For the controller, I have used a Teensy LC and for the touchscreen, It's a 5 inch (The touchscreen works well with Drastic for Nintendo DS). For USB and HDMI, I have used ribbon wiring. I have used a small amp for the speakers (stereo sound). SD card = 512 GB

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          • FollyF
            Folly @DTEAM
            last edited by

            @dteam

            Oh I see, that's a different story.
            Now I see why you are doing ssh and filezilla !

            I must say, looks very cool.
            You must have enjoyed building it.

            Nice job !

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            • DTEAMD
              DTEAM @Folly
              last edited by DTEAM

              @folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

              @dteam
              Oh I see, that's a different story.
              Now I see why you are doing ssh and filezilla !
              I must say, looks very cool.
              You must have enjoyed building it.
              Nice job !

              Thanks. Yes, It was a really fun creative project to do. I recommend it to everyone. It took me a lot of time to do it. I had to use wooden clamps for each piece. I preferred this project more to the one I did with a 3d printer for a Pi Zero. The wooden project is original and It's not a copy from another project (even the electronic part of it !!)
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              • FollyF
                Folly @DTEAM
                last edited by

                @dteam

                I can refer to it.
                It's always fun to do your own thing.

                If I have some time, I will make some photo's of my projects.

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                • FollyF
                  Folly
                  last edited by Folly

                  @DTEAM @valerino

                  Today I had a look a config module-scripts (docsview.sh) containing the dialog api.
                  It took me quite some time but I changed it a bit to get the systems into the dialog menu.
                  I was also able to generate some scripts.

                  It's nowhere near how we want it.
                  But it's a start of finding out how we can do this.
                  I takes about 15 seconds to extract the systems from mame and display them in the menu.
                  Basically I got this :
                  2021-03-31-210848_1600x900_scrot.png

                  With the RetroPie-Setup we are root user.
                  So the generator-script, which contains the $HOME string wants to do all in the root directory.
                  So we have to come up with something to fix this.

                  This is the log selecting a system and generate some module-scripts :

                  = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
                  Running action 'gui' for 'add' : RetroPie-Setup Docs Viewer
                  = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
                  
                    % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                                   Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
                  
                    0     0    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--     0
                    2 29333    2   863    0     0   1913      0  0:00:15 --:--:--  0:00:15  1909
                  100 29333  100 29333    0     0  64326      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 64185
                  
                  install @valerino run_mess.sh script
                  /root/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/run_mess.sh: No such file or directory
                  read all available extensions per system
                  read compatible extension(s) for the individual media
                  read computer description(s)
                  read and match RetroPie names with mamedev names
                  cat: /root/RetroPie-Setup/platforms.cfg: No such file or directory
                  generate and write the install-<RPname>-from-mamedev-system-<MESSname><-media>.sh script file(s)
                  generate and write the install-<RPname>-cmd.sh command script file(s)
                  grep: /root/RetroPie-Setup/platforms.cfg: No such file or directory
                  
                  Log ended at: Wed Mar 31 21:03:49 CEST 2021
                  Total running time: 0 hours, 0 mins, 52 secs
                  
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                  • DTEAMD
                    DTEAM @Folly
                    last edited by DTEAM

                    @folly

                    In your list, Zupapa is an arcade game. I'll try to found a list without arcade game and without mechanical machine.

                    In category.ini (0.229) from https://www.progettosnaps.net/renameset/
                    we can found filtered list with drivers. Can it be usefull?

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                    • V
                      valerino @Folly
                      last edited by

                      @folly this is almost what i meant yes :) sorry but i hadn't time to look at the code myself. anyway, seems you're on the right track.

                      tell me more about the problem with the env vars, should be easy to fix.

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                      • FollyF
                        Folly @DTEAM
                        last edited by

                        @dteam said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                        @folly

                        In your list, Zupapa is an arcade game. I'll try to found a list without arcade game and without mechanical machine.

                        In category.ini (0.229) from https://www.progettosnaps.net/renameset/
                        we can found filtered list with drivers. Can it be usefull?

                        Indeed, we should use a filter.
                        Perhaps we can implement it on the way.

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                        • FollyF
                          Folly @valerino
                          last edited by

                          @valerino said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                          @folly this is almost what i meant yes :) sorry but i hadn't time to look at the code myself. anyway, seems you're on the right track.

                          tell me more about the problem with the env vars, should be easy to fix.

                          Basically I use the $HOME string in my script, because we want to place the files also in the correct place if the user isn't pi.
                          But now we are root with sudo.
                          Perhaps we can extract the normal user and run the script with that user instead. (sudo -u pi, or something like that)
                          And perhaps we have to correct the ownership of the files.
                          Well, we can discuss some of that.

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                          • DTEAMD
                            DTEAM @Folly
                            last edited by DTEAM

                            @folly

                            In the MESS 0.151 hash folder, we can found 609 .xml files associated to the systems.
                            we could add kgradius and the others for MAME systems (Jakks, KonamiH, etc.) + 7

                            Normally, I think we should found roughly 616 systems in the list. Am I correct?

                            New edit: some systems doesn’t have hash file like svmu. Probably a little bit more than 616 systems

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                            • FollyF
                              Folly @DTEAM
                              last edited by Folly

                              @dteam said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                              @folly

                              In the MESS 0.151 hash folder, we can found 609 .xml files associated to the systems.
                              we could add kgradius and the others for MAME systems (Jakks, KonamiH, etc.) + 7

                              Normally, we should found roughly 616 systems in the list.

                              Basically you say, not all handheld games, we have working, are in the mame hash lists.
                              And someone should add them trough github.
                              Am I correct ?

                              (you mean find ?)

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                              • DTEAMD
                                DTEAM @Folly
                                last edited by

                                @folly
                                Ideally we should add the real name (like Jakks) but behind it it could be the name of a game as your script handles. I imagine it will depend on how you handle it in your script.

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                                • FollyF
                                  Folly @DTEAM
                                  last edited by Folly

                                  @dteam

                                  You would like to categorize all Jakks games as a cartridge of the jakks system, for example.
                                  Do I conclude correctly ?

                                  Well I think they separated them as standalone systems because not all hardware is identical.
                                  I read that MAME wants to do the most perfect hardware emulation, so that is why they seperated them.
                                  So I don't think there is any change they will change that, sorry.

                                  I get your point though.

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                                  • DTEAMD
                                    DTEAM @Folly
                                    last edited by DTEAM

                                    @folly
                                    Yes, and you have a good point. To avoid the problem for driver, do we have to create 7 systems in mame.ini (rompath) like I did in the tutorial? Is it a solution. We could manage It like the arcade folder.

                                    The idea is to select and install one time (from Mess/Mame selection list) for all games from a games family (only the systems from my tutorial - 7 systems)

                                    Other option, Could we create an override for.ini in the system folder (jakks, konamih, etc.)

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                                    • FollyF
                                      Folly @DTEAM
                                      last edited by

                                      @dteam said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                                      @folly
                                      Yes, and you have a good point. To avoid the problem for driver, do we have to create 7 systems in mame.ini (rompath) like I did in the tutorial? Is it a solution. We could manage It like the arcade folder.

                                      The idea is to select and install one time (from Mess/Mame selection list) for all games from a games family (only the systems from my tutorial - 7 systems)

                                      Other option, Could we create an override for.ini in the system folder (jakks, konamih, etc.)

                                      I have a hard time understanding what you want here.
                                      At the moment we do nothing in the .ini file, it's all in the command-lines.

                                      Do you mean this ?
                                      I think you are addressing the install that we have to pick a game to install, for example konamih.
                                      Am I correct ?
                                      You want to be able to install on, for example, konamih instead of a game.

                                      Can you give an example on a game and how it should be installed then ?
                                      Perhaps I will understand it better.

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                                      • DTEAMD
                                        DTEAM @Folly
                                        last edited by DTEAM

                                        @folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                                        You want to be able to install on, for example, konamih instead of a game.

                                        Exactly, but on my side, I don't understand why you said It could be an issue to do that.

                                        Well I think they separated them as standalone systems because not all hardware is identical.
                                        I read that MAME wants to do the most perfect hardware emulation, so that is why they seperated them..

                                        That’s why I said we could manage theme like the « arcade » folder does for arcade games

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                                        • FollyF
                                          Folly @DTEAM
                                          last edited by Folly

                                          @dteam said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                                          @folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                                          You want to be able to install on, for example, konamih instead of a game.

                                          Exactly, but on my side, I don't understand why you said It could be an issue to do that.

                                          In our script we can make that work, I think.
                                          I think we just can add the "family systems (konamih, etc )" in the array and join them to 1 game of that family.
                                          So we can do this (red because it's not possible at the moment) :

                                          -curl "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/main/00-scripts-00/generate-systems-lr-mess_mame-2v0-alpha.sh" | bash -s konamih
                                          

                                          instead of this :

                                          curl "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/main/00-scripts-00/generate-systems-lr-mess_mame-2v0-alpha.sh" | bash -s kgradius
                                          

                                          Makes this any sense ?

                                          The "issue" I was referring to is, that it's probably not an option to ask the mamedev people to change the hashtables, because they have an other mindset of how the database is established. I think also the source code depends largely on it, so it would be a major task for them to convert it all.

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                                          • DTEAMD
                                            DTEAM @Folly
                                            last edited by DTEAM

                                            @folly
                                            we weren't talking about the same thing, that's why we didn't understand each other.

                                            For the hash file, could it be possible to generate a .doc list from the hash folder without the .xml extension and restart from that list to generate the list in retropie? The problem with this is that sometimes the name of an .xml does not match the name of the system.

                                            I will try to find a solution. In the mame software, they can use filters.

                                            @folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                                            instead of this :
                                            curl "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/main/00-scripts-00/generate-systems-lr-mess_mame-2v0-alpha.sh" | bash -s kgradius

                                            Makes this any sense ?

                                            Yes 👍🏻

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