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    Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone

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    • TPRT
      TPR
      last edited by TPR

      @Folly @DTEAM Working on getting BBC Micro Installed and so far a lot of games work perfectly fine, for example:
      Screenshot 2024-12-17 13-21-10.png
      Screenshot 2024-12-17 13-21-28.png

      But trying some more graphics intensive games the screen gets scrambled and starts to flicker:
      Screenshot 2024-12-17 13-18-51.png
      Screenshot 2024-12-17 13-17-13.png
      (Top game is Ransom or King's Ransom, bottom game is Elite)

      I've installed both the BBC Micro B and BBC Micro B +128 and get the same results for both.

      Any idea what graphics card or expansion I might need to put into one of the internal slots in MAME or if there is another settings I should be using?

      Note that I've tried just about every dip switch combo I could try.

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        Folly @TPR
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        @TPR

        Not sure either what should be done to get it working.
        I will have a look at "elite" when I can.

        Although I must say this discussion has been on the forum before.
        As far as I know mame isn't the best bbc micro emulator but for RetroPie it's the best available.

        I have made some module-scripts with alternative emulators but sadly newer gcc will not compile these older packages anymore, if you run a newer OS.

        Alternative forums, to find answers, are :
        https://stardot.org.uk/
        or
        https://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=1

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          Folly @TPR
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          @TPR

          Tried elite and elitea from bbcb_flop.
          Saw these graphic glitches also.
          Mame warns for "graphic issues".
          I think there is noting you can do about it.

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          • DTEAMD
            DTEAM @Folly
            last edited by DTEAM

            @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

            @DTEAM

            I came up with a few drivers,
            I filtered the database on :

            • non-arcade (grep non-)
            • multigame (grep multigame)
            • not all_in1 (grep -v all_in1)

            Full command to test the drivers one by one :
            cat /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame0271_systems_sorted_info |grep non-|grep multigame|grep -v all_in1|cut -d " " -f2|while read driver;do /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -ui_active $driver;done

            Found that next drivers seem to work ok and could potentially be added to the list all_in1 :
            cham24
            smssgame
            smssgamea
            vgtablet

            What do you think ?

            P.s.
            Added marc101 to all_in1.ini and 271/272 database.

            All systems are for arcade games excepted vgtablet

            New edit: vgtablet has been added to "All in one" gamelist.xml

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              Folly @DTEAM
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              @DTEAM said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

              cham24
              smssgame
              smssgamea

              My database states that these system drivers are non-arcade and the don't use a coin to play.
              Besides "Sega Master Systems" on itself, isn't arcade either.

              If these are really arcade, as you stated, then my database isn't correct and has to be improved somehow.

              Where did you find the info of these being arcade ?
              Can you share your source ?


              I have added vgtablet to the database 271/272 and ini file.

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              • DTEAMD
                DTEAM @Folly
                last edited by DTEAM

                @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                cham24
                smssgame
                smssgamea

                For cham24, here's where I got my info. [site 1] (https://bootleggames.fandom.com/wiki/Chameleon_24) , site 2 (at the bottom in the history section) .
                Maybe it's a token-free home arcade. If yes, it could be in the list, but it's not easy to know.
                It's a "pay for time" arcade like PlayChoice10. See here

                For smssgame and smssgamea, see site 1 (at the bottom in the history section and also the picture where we can see the game time credits)
                They put those games in "bootleg" but they are Arcade "multi games" bootlegs. Maybe they put those games in the wrong category. I don't think they are token-free home arcades.

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                  Folly @DTEAM
                  last edited by Folly

                  @DTEAM

                  Thanks for the info.
                  Indeed if they are arcade then we should not add them.

                  Will have a second look at these drivers if I can find the proper info about coin/pay usage in the driver xml info.
                  Then I can, possibly, split arcade and non-arcade better in the future.

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                    Folly @DTEAM
                    last edited by Folly

                    @DTEAM

                    For cham24 and smssgame I tried to find coin/pay/time info but there is nothing to be found inside the xml driver info.
                    There is also no coin input key inside the input settings.

                    If these drivers are really arcade then the mame drivers and driver infos are incomplete for these drivers.

                    Seems they just work without "paying" but that could mean that this is the incompleteness which is also a reason not to add them to all_in1.

                    For now I will keep them in the non-arcade section as I can't properly detect whether they are arcade or not.

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                    • TPRT
                      TPR @Folly
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                      @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                      @TPR

                      Tried elite and elitea from bbcb_flop.
                      Saw these graphic glitches also.
                      Mame warns for "graphic issues".
                      I think there is noting you can do about it.

                      Gotcha. If I end up coming up with some sort of solution or work around I'll post it!

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                      • DTEAMD
                        DTEAM @TPR
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                        @Folly

                        MAME 0.274 is release

                        Many new games (JAKKS, and more)

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                          Folly @DTEAM
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                          @DTEAM

                          Great !, Indeed I saw some stuff on the bannister forum.
                          Will have a look if I can update this month if the time allows.

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                            Folly @DTEAM
                            last edited by Folly

                            @DTEAM

                            The mame 274 binary has been added to the gdrive.

                            I added the new 274 ini files.
                            Can you check these here ?

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                            • DTEAMD
                              DTEAM @Folly
                              last edited by DTEAM

                              @Folly

                              Here's the list (0.274):

                              03c19e50-decd-456b-bb80-6cb88cb31d4b-image.png

                              The others from your list are Arcades, Slot machines or other.

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                                Folly @DTEAM
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                                @DTEAM

                                Thanks for checking and adding some that are not automatically found by my script.

                                I have committed the ones for all_in1 here.
                                For classich I did the same here.
                                For classich I will try to add automatic detection for the new ones later.
                                I believe :

                                • your list misses tama and trclchick
                                • epo_tetris must be epo_tetr
                                  Right ?

                                Can you check a second time ?
                                After that I think we are good to go and use the inis for updating the database.

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                                • DTEAMD
                                  DTEAM @Folly
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                                  @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                  The mame 274 binary has been added to the gdrive.

                                  I added the new 274 ini files.
                                  Can you check these here ?

                                  It works well

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                                  • DTEAMD
                                    DTEAM @Folly
                                    last edited by DTEAM

                                    @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                    @DTEAM

                                    Thanks for checking and adding some that are not automatically found by my script.

                                    I have committed the ones for all_in1 here.
                                    For classich I did the same here.
                                    For classich I will try to add automatic detection for the new ones later.
                                    I believe :

                                    your list misses tama and trclchick

                                    tama is there (last one) and yes trclchick (classich) is missing , thanks

                                    epo_tetris must be epo_tetr
                                    Right ?

                                    Yes

                                    Can you check a second time ?
                                    After that I think we are good to go and use the inis for updating the database.

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                                      Folly @DTEAM
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                                      @DTEAM

                                      Thanks.
                                      Seems we have all our new data for 274.
                                      I will wait for the new data from progettosnaps and then create the new database.

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                                        Folly
                                        last edited by Folly

                                        Read this post.
                                        Looks like many systems will work much better now on arm with mame 274.

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                                          duglor @Folly
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                                          @Folly EXCELLENT!

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                                            Folly
                                            last edited by Folly

                                            Here is the commit for the drivers that, most likely, will benefit from the arm dynarec improvement :
                                            https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/commit/d3b18e080a9182e6aaf48cf06b53278c4d5a95b7

                                            Btw.
                                            Rumours, on the internet, are that arm64 will do a better job than intel64, we will see !

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