Weird Mouse Cursor bug in MAME (non-libretro)
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@mitu Yeah, only a MAMEdev could tell what's going on since they have the better knowledge of their codepath.
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@barbudreadmon said in Weird Mouse Cursor bug in MAME (non-libretro):
And yet, when you compare a Donkey Kong cabinet with both emulators, FBNeo actually sounds way closer to the cabinet.
No, it doesn't. Not even close. I've tested it at Funspot in NH with their real cabinets. Plus I played them all in real time in 1981-83.
FBNeo sounds like the NES version. Not the original Arcade version.
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@JSM said in Weird Mouse Cursor bug in MAME (non-libretro):
No, it doesn't. Not even close.
Sound on the real cabinet isn't muffled the way MAME emulates it. You can easily find videos of the real cabinet with good enough audio to confirm this, and anyway bad audio would muffle the audio but not the other way around. I suppose maybe the amp present on those cabinets isn't emulated by MAME or something, iirc they consider it's not part of the machine. FBNeo won't have this issue since the recorded sounds are most likely already amplified.
@JSM said in Weird Mouse Cursor bug in MAME (non-libretro):
I've tested it at Funspot in NH with their real cabinets. Plus I played them all in real time in 1981-83.
Meaning in noisy environments and/or very long ago.
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@barbudreadmon said in Weird Mouse Cursor bug in MAME (non-libretro):
@JSM said in Weird Mouse Cursor bug in MAME (non-libretro):
No, it doesn't. Not even close.
Sound on the real cabinet isn't muffled the way MAME emulates it. >
Yes, it is. On every real cabinet I've ever played. As recently as a few months ago.
You can easily find videos of the real cabinet with good enough audio to confirm this, and anyway bad audio would muffle the audio but not the other way around. I suppose maybe the amp present on those cabinets isn't emulated by MAME or something, iirc they consider it's not part of the machine. FBNeo won't have this issue since the recorded sounds are most likely already amplified.
LOL. This is the same argument you pulled last time this discussion came up on reddit and the video link you posted was a compressed, pixelatted mess on youtube.
@JSM said in Weird Mouse Cursor bug in MAME (non-libretro):
I've tested it at Funspot in NH with their real cabinets. Plus I played them all in real time in 1981-83.
Meaning in noisy environments and/or very long ago.
No, meaning actual, recent, real world experience. Unlike you googling up youtube videos of a cab you've never played in real life.
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@JSM said in Weird Mouse Cursor bug in MAME (non-libretro):
Yes, it is. On every real cabinet I've ever played. As recently as a few months ago.
Ok, so you are saying literally every video of that cabinet you can find on internet are fakes, because there isn't a single video that confirm your version.
@JSM said in Weird Mouse Cursor bug in MAME (non-libretro):
LOL. This is the same argument you pulled last time this discussion came up on reddit and the video link you posted was a compressed, pixelatted mess on youtube.
Oh, so you are that super toxic guy from reddit a few months ago that was insulting people who were telling you the exact same thing, aka the fact that all videos of the cab confirm FBNeo is closer to the real thing. I remember you were even telling some well-known player (not billy mitchell) was playing on a mame cab and not the real cab to justify yourself when someone (not me) pointed you to some dkong video. So you knew who i was and still decided to insult a project i work on in this topic, while i even spent half an hour searching through my browser history to find that lr-mame hiscore tutorial to help you.
@JSM said in Weird Mouse Cursor bug in MAME (non-libretro):
No, meaning actual, recent, real world experience
Which isn't worth a shit in noisy environments like those.
Anyone interested can search for videos of the real cab and see who is right, so you aren't worth spending more time arguing.
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@barbudreadmon said in Weird Mouse Cursor bug in MAME (non-libretro):
@JSM said in Weird Mouse Cursor bug in MAME (non-libretro):
Yes, it is. On every real cabinet I've ever played. As recently as a few months ago.
Ok, so you are saying literally every video of that cabinet you can find on internet are fakes, because there isn't a single video that confirm your version.
@JSM said in Weird Mouse Cursor bug in MAME (non-libretro):
LOL. This is the same argument you pulled last time this discussion came up on reddit and the video link you posted was a compressed, pixelatted mess on youtube.
Oh, so you are that super toxic guy from reddit a few months ago that was insulting people who were telling you the exact same thing, aka the fact that all videos of the cab confirm FBNeo is closer to the real thing. I remember you were even telling some well-known player (not billy mitchell) was playing on a mame cab and not the real cab to justify yourself when someone (not me) pointed you to some dkong video. So you knew who i was and still decided to insult a project i work on in this topic, while i even spent half an hour searching through my browser history to find that lr-mame hiscore tutorial to help you.
@JSM said in Weird Mouse Cursor bug in MAME (non-libretro):
No, meaning actual, recent, real world experience
Which isn't worth a shit in noisy environments like those.
Anyone interested can search for videos of the real cab and see who is right, so you aren't worth spending more time arguing.
Lol.
Yes. I am the same guy. No, I wasn’t , and still aren’t anything approaching “toxic”.
I posted a thread with a bug report about a specific version of MAME, and instead of getting useful answers or an actual case opened to investigate and repair the bug, I got you, FBNeo “dev” and superfan # 1 telling me “just use FBNeo, it’s better!” Even though both times I explicitly asked in my FIRST POST, “please don’t recommend other emulators, I’m asking how we can fix this version.” And regardless of me asking politely for no alternative emu recommendations, you came into both threads and made both of them an argument.
Go away.
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@JSM said in Weird Mouse Cursor bug in MAME (non-libretro):
instead of getting useful answers or an actual case opened to investigate and repair the bug
I did answer from the beginning :
- for MAME standalone, you should ask the MAME team, because retropie is using vanilla MAME without any change, so they are the only people who can help you
- for MAME libretro, i told you that it was possible to save hiscores, according to something i read, and linked the tutorial later, right before you started being disrespectful toward my project out of nowhere
@JSM said in Weird Mouse Cursor bug in MAME (non-libretro):
Even though both times I explicitly asked in my FIRST POST, “please don’t recommend other emulators, I’m asking how we can fix this version.” And regardless of me asking politely for no alternative emu recommendations, you came into both threads and made both of them an argument.
No you didn't say anything of the sort in this topic, the first time you talked about other emulators was only to be disrespectful about them. I can't guess you'll be toxic if i suggest trying other emulators, and i was only trying to be helpful since the answers allowing you to keep using current MAME didn't seem to be of any help. If an emulator appears to be broken in an unsolvable way, i suggest trying other emulators, that's the right thing to do.
@JSM said in Weird Mouse Cursor bug in MAME (non-libretro):
just use FBNeo, it’s better!
No, i never told you once to use FBNeo, you were the first person to bring that name, only to make false and disrespectful statements about it. I couldn't care less which emulator people are using, and considering the kind of person you are, i'll be grateful if you don't use my work.
At this point it's pretty clear you are toxic and a compulsive liar.
@mitu i'm past the point where i'll be able to stay polite if that guy dares answering again, so i recommend closing this.
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@barbudreadmon said in Weird Mouse Cursor bug in MAME (non-libretro):
@mitu i'm past the point where i'll be able to stay polite if that guy dares answering again, so i recommend closing this.
Understood. Can't please all users, as much as you try.
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