Cannot access the internet.

mitu

@kiro The Pi Zero has a Wireless model which enables it to access the internet via WiFi.

kiro

@mitu some of them yes, (pi zero W) more specifically, so if his tiny pi does not have a W model, then it is normal there is no internet connection at all. Hence my question if he has set up a wifi connection with it or not at all, which should help better understand the issue.

ignatius

@kiro said in Cannot access the internet.:

@ignatius Does the tiny pi pro have internet connectivity at all? I assume you must gave configured wifi for it to be connected to the internet?? Is this your device: https://www.tindie.com/products/petay/tinypi-pro/ ? Because I am afraid it does not have internet connectivity at all...if it is based on a pi zero, it certainly does not.

Yes. That's it. And, AFAIK it does have Internet connectivity.

kiro

@ignatius can you access you tinypi via ssh from another machine in your network? or at least ping it?

ignatius

@kiro said in Cannot access the internet.:

@ignatius can you access you tinypi via ssh from another machine in your network? or at least ping it?

Neither. :(

kiro

@ignatius Can you verify if your pi zero model is W or not? if it is not W then it has no internet connectivity. (Did you manage to set up your wifi parameters in the tinypi?)

ignatius

@kiro said in Cannot access the internet.:

@ignatius Can you verify if your pi zero model is W or not? if it is not W then it has no internet connectivity. (Did you manage to set up your wifi parameters in the tinypi?)

Yes. I bought the W version when I bought the TInyPi Pro kit. Well, in the version of RetroPie I have (4.4), there aren't very many settings for WIFI.. But, yes, I did set them up.

kiro

@ignatius what is the output of 'ifconfig' command, more specifically the IP address of what's usually the wlan0 device (wireless)... is it an IP with the same subnet as your other devices in the net? (if not, simply your pi is not connected to the network) then I advise you to re run 'sudo raspiconfig', go to System-Options, Wireless Lan, and re-enter the wifi parameters there. See if there is any changes afterwards.

ignatius

@kiro said in Cannot access the internet.:

@ignatius what is the output of 'ifconfig' command, more specifically the IP address of what's usually the wlan0 device (wireless)... is it an IP with the same subnet as your other devices in the net? (if not, simply your pi is not connected to the network) then I advise you to re run 'sudo raspiconfig', go to System-Options, Wireless Lan, and re-enter the wifi parameters there. See if there is any changes afterwards.

All of my machines are connected to the same WIFI network.. Does that answer your question?

kiro

@ignatius Unfortunately not, you need to type 'ifconfig' in the pi and check the output.... if it is not an IP address similar to your other machines (for example 192.168.0.X where only the last number changes [this are not necessarily the same numbers as in your network]) or it is not showing any IP address at all, then you have to re-configure the pi zero by using the 'sudo raspi-config' command as I mentioned in previous post.

ignatius

@kiro said in Cannot access the internet.:

@ignatius Unfortunately not, you need to type 'ifconfig' in the pi and check the output.... if it is not an IP address similar to your other machines (for example 192.168.0.X where only the last number changes [this are not necessarily the same numbers as in your network]) or it is not showing any IP address at all, then you have to re-configure the pi zero by using the 'sudo raspi-config' command as I mentioned in previous post.

Bleh. The battery is dead on my Pi. I'll get back to you once it's charged.

kiro

@ignatius :-)

ignatius

@kiro said in Cannot access the internet.:

@ignatius Unfortunately not, you need to type 'ifconfig' in the pi and check the output.... if it is not an IP address similar to your other machines (for example 192.168.0.X where only the last number changes [this are not necessarily the same numbers as in your network]) or it is not showing any IP address at all, then you have to re-configure the pi zero by using the 'sudo raspi-config' command as I mentioned in previous post.

They are different IP addresses for both my computer and my Pi.
There are only 3 options available in Raspbi-Config to setup a network... One for a WIFI network, one for the hostname, and one for a "predictable hostname" (whatever that means). Configuring these items has no bearing on the networking of the system, since they are already set up via the "WIFI Setup" in the RetroPie "setup screen".

Thorr69

@ignatius said in Cannot access the internet.:

@kiro said in Cannot access the internet.:

@ignatius Unfortunately not, you need to type 'ifconfig' in the pi and check the output.... if it is not an IP address similar to your other machines (for example 192.168.0.X where only the last number changes [this are not necessarily the same numbers as in your network]) or it is not showing any IP address at all, then you have to re-configure the pi zero by using the 'sudo raspi-config' command as I mentioned in previous post.

They are different IP addresses for both my computer and my Pi.
There are only 3 options available in Raspbi-Config to setup a network... One for a WIFI network, one for the hostname, and one for a "predictable hostname" (whatever that means). Configuring these items has no bearing on the networking of the system, since they are already set up via the "WIFI Setup" in the RetroPie "setup screen".

I'm real curious why you don't just answer the question.

Of COURSE two devices have two different IP addresses... What needs to be established is whether or not your Pi is getting a valid IP from the router or if it's defaulting to another address. If you just post the output, the question can be answered. If it's getting a router assigned address then that establishes a connection and further troubleshooting will go in that direction. If the address does NOT match your local subnet mask pattern then your Pi is not connecting to the router and troubleshooting will continue in a different direction.

Please, just answer the question so people can actually help you. What is the IP address of your Pi as reported when using the command 'ifconfig' from a terminal prompt?

ignatius

@Thorr69 said in Cannot access the internet.:

@ignatius said in Cannot access the internet.:

@kiro said in Cannot access the internet.:

@ignatius Unfortunately not, you need to type 'ifconfig' in the pi and check the output.... if it is not an IP address similar to your other machines (for example 192.168.0.X where only the last number changes [this are not necessarily the same numbers as in your network]) or it is not showing any IP address at all, then you have to re-configure the pi zero by using the 'sudo raspi-config' command as I mentioned in previous post.

They are different IP addresses for both my computer and my Pi.
There are only 3 options available in Raspbi-Config to setup a network... One for a WIFI network, one for the hostname, and one for a "predictable hostname" (whatever that means). Configuring these items has no bearing on the networking of the system, since they are already set up via the "WIFI Setup" in the RetroPie "setup screen".

I'm real curious why you don't just answer the question.

Of COURSE two devices have two different IP addresses... What needs to be established is whether or not your Pi is getting a valid IP from the router or if it's defaulting to another address. If you just post the output, the question can be answered. If it's getting a router assigned address then that establishes a connection and further troubleshooting will go in that direction. If the address does NOT match your local subnet mask pattern then your Pi is not connecting to the router and troubleshooting will continue in a different direction.

Please, just answer the question so people can actually help you. What is the IP address of your Pi as reported when using the command 'ifconfig' from a terminal prompt?

My Pi's IP address is 192.168.43.255
My IP address is 192.168.250.1

Thorr69

@ignatius It's very unusual that your two devices that are supposed to be on the same network have different subnets. Is your PC using wired LAN and not WIFI?

ignatius

@Thorr69 said in Cannot access the internet.:

@ignatius It's very unusual that your two devices that are supposed to be on the same network have different subnets. Is your PC using wired LAN and not WIFI?

I use a VPN, could that be it?

mitu

@ignatius You should have mentioned that in the beginning - if your VPN is mis-configured, that would explain why DNS is working but your traffic is not. Disable your VPN and see if apt will work.

ignatius

@mitu said in Cannot access the internet.:

@ignatius You should have mentioned that in the beginning - if your VPN is mis-configured, that would explain why DNS is working but your traffic is not. Disable your VPN and see if apt will work.

I'm not using it on the Pi, though. Does this still apply?

ignatius

@ignatius said in Cannot access the internet.:

@mitu said in Cannot access the internet.:

@ignatius You should have mentioned that in the beginning - if your VPN is mis-configured, that would explain why DNS is working but your traffic is not. Disable your VPN and see if apt will work.

I'm not using it on the Pi, though. Does this still apply?

BTW, I have a new problem. I changed the default password, and it will not boot into Emulation Station now... :(