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    Raspberry Pi OS 64bit version (2022)

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      SullyPanda76cl
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      Hi..

      After a very dirty and messy upgrade from debian 9 to 10, y decided to start a clean debian 11 install (downloading image from this site)

      Need to decide between 32bit and 64bit version.

      After reading:

      Re: Raspberry Pi OS 64bit version

      I'm not clear on which is the best alternative (Pi will be mainly used for RetroArch)

      Thanks!

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        windg
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        RetroPie support for Bullseye is still under development.

        My English isn't at a good level.

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          Stalker_Len @windg
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          @windg So, when the bullseye support should be expected? I have already installed rasbpi os bullseye on my raspberry pi and a home assistant (I want to work Retropie in parallel with HA), so I highly interested in getting this support.

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            windg @Stalker_Len
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            @Stalker_Len
            Sorry i don't know when it will be ready, it is not a easy task.

            My English isn't at a good level.

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              Stalker_Len @windg
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              @windg maybe not a precise date, just next 2 months or hopefully this year? Maybe there is an unstable version?

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                windg
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                I believe it will be out before new year but only the developers known for sure .

                My English isn't at a good level.

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                  Stalker_Len @windg
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                  @windg ok, thank you for your response!

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                    Stalker_Len @windg
                    last edited by

                    @windg by the way, do you know, anyone from developers is here?

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                      windg @Stalker_Len
                      last edited by windg

                      @Stalker_Len
                      I know about :
                      BuZz(leader developer), mitu, dankcushions.

                      My English isn't at a good level.

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                        Darksavior @Stalker_Len
                        last edited by Darksavior

                        @Stalker_Len There is no ETA. This question was already asked and this was one of the reasons: https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL/issues/5399

                        Technically, you can install retropie on bullseye right now with a few modifications to the scripts but you'll have no support.

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                          Stalker_Len @Darksavior
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                          @Darksavior Hmm. That's interesting! Thank you for advising that!

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                            Stalker_Len @Darksavior
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                            @Darksavior sorry for bothering, do you know any guide about modifications should be made for installing and working with Retropie on bullseye?

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                              Stalker_Len @windg
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                              @BuZz, hi, is there anything can be done to help with the release of bullseye support?

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                                alruf @Stalker_Len
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                                @Stalker_Len I use both RetroPie and Home Assistant but on separate systems, and would never dream of putting them on the same system. One is for entertainment so uptime is not critical, the other would ideally have a 100% uptime. The only possible benefit is maybe to save some money but given the low cost of RPi (well before the shortages at least) I really see no reason. I definitely do NOT recommend putting the two on the same system to save a few bucks.

                                I've been using Home Assistant for a year now and outgrew the PI 4 in less than 6 months. This certainly varies person by person. I have over 300 devices managed by HA and lots of automations/integrations. Reliability, performance and uptime are most critical so mine runs in a Proxmox VM on an i7 based NUC style dedicated computer. The few other things that run on it, are lightweight and related to HA (ie NUT, Monocle). Regardless, the best way to run HA is by using their HA OS install (image available for VM) and given the limited computing resources of the Pi, I would not put HA in a container on a Pi.

                                I am looking forward to RetroPie 5(?) so I can redo the RetroPie install in my arcade as Emulation Station occasionally crashes when I leave it idle (all off except Pi). I also want to get rid of the SDCard and boot RetroPie directly from the SSD I am using for the games... doing all this when reinstalling to update to RetroPie 5 seemed a good idea but I did not anticipate it would take this long (not complaining!! I appreciate what the devs are doing!!).

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                                  A Former User
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                                  Honestly unless you've got the 8GB Pi 4, there's not much inherent value to a 64-bit operating system. There's a reason a lot of phones sold today still ship with 32-bit Android.

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                                    Darksavior @A Former User
                                    last edited by Darksavior

                                    @ranaday789 With the pi I want to squeeze every bit of performance I can and 64bit can be slightly faster than 32bit if the emulator is properly made for it.

                                    In my tests, I'm not sure if it's 64bit or if it's bullseye (I didn't try 32), but I got a significant boost with lr-snes9x on my pi3b+. This is with the few alterations I did to the retropie-setup script so it's not properly optimized.

                                    Here are some benchmarks though they're from benchmarks apps and not emulators:
                                    https://www.phoronix.com/review/raspberrypi-32bit-64bit

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