SOLVED -ROM version numbers to match emulators?

rbaker

@gnome73
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BuZz

@gnome73 When signing up you have to "agree" to read the "read me first" link which states to read the forum rules. It's at the top of the screen on every forum page in bold. It's clear you and others are not bothered to spend the time to read them and I am getting fed up with constantly linking people again and again. You want us to spend our time to help you, so please spend some of your time to help us.

gnome73

@BuZz ok apologies

meleu

@gnome73 said in ROM version numbers to match emulators?:

I'd previously read the MAME thread by Floob but didnt pick up on the importance of the ROM Sets. I thought a ROMset was just the files that came with a game ROM i.e. 12 files in a game.zip.

Ooh. My bad... I am the one who got the ROMSet concept wrong. The Floob's information is right, and your understanding too. I've just checked the official MAME doc about ROMSets and look what I've found:

An example ROM image would be the file pm1_prg1.6e stored in the Puckman ROM set.

I thought that, let's say, MAME 0.78 ROMSet was a compressed file with gigabytes of several hundreds of arcade ROMs (games) in it, but the correct name for this is MAME 0.78 Reference Set.

gnome73

@meleu

Yeah Im still a bit confused. I too thought that MAME 0.78 ROMSet was a compressed file with gigabytes of several hundreds of arcade ROMs.

My approach now (right or wrong) is just to look for ROMs that are based on the 0.78 ROMset which therefore should work under the RetroPie MAME2003 emulator.

dankcushions

@meleu said in ROM version numbers to match emulators?:

I like the analogy that @dankcushions did once here in the forum: for traditional home console videogames, the user needs to install the emulator and then find ROMs to play on it. For arcade games the way is reversed, the user get the ROMset and then find a MAME version able to run the ROMs. (At least I think he meant it. :) )

my analogy was it's like getting a car and putting random liquid into it until you find out which is the right fuel :) so i think you should start with the emulator you want to use (we recommend mame2003 for pi3) and then get the ENTIRE romset for that (0.78).

meleu

@gnome73

Im still a bit confused.

You shouldn't. The official MAME doc is the final word. :-) And the Floob's information is correct.

What confused you was that sentence on the wiki. I've just updated the Managing ROMs wiki page and replaced "the" by "a". :-)

you must use a MAME 0.78 ROM set with MAME2003

Hope you get it clearly now.

meleu

@dankcushions said in ROM version numbers to match emulators?:

get the ENTIRE romset for that (0.78)

The term romset is what is confusing our fellow here. I think that reference set is more accurate and works better on web search engines. ;-)

gnome73

Yes!, reference set is what I need thanks....

I understand the different terminology and concepts now - Feel free to delete this thread if anyone wants to.

meleu

@gnome73 said in ROM version numbers to match emulators?:

Feel free to delete this thread if anyone wants to.

Or better yet: mark it as solved! ;-)

gnome73

@meleu

done

gnome73

Oh and I found this..

"dankcushions GLOBAL MODERATOR April 28, 2016 @Meneer Jansen
@Meneer-Jansen you're going to make me link to the wiki again, aren't you? :) that answers all your questions: https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/Managing-ROMs

the full mame 0.78 romset is 8GB."

I wasnt that crazy thinking a romset was a bunch of games in a big file afterall ;-)

Oh and re Emulators saving ...

"dankcushions GLOBAL MODERATOR April 27, 2016
0.78 that's for mame2003. so you won't need to convert anything.

advmame i don't know much about, but mame2003 certainly saves."

Does that mean high scores? or just save states?

meleu

@gnome73 Remember the wise words from Master Yoda: Its own topic a new question deserves.

Cheers!

gnome73

OK I put this in the general discussion as its not an urgent help request.

https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/5697/best-emulator-rom-set-for-saving-high-scores

jayram1408

Why even if the answer has been posted all over the internet, and some one comes looking for help, do all these guys that are the "guru's" always have to put real [removed]' type answers? Instead of being nice about it, it's always some real jerk type of answer? If you hate all the noob or dumb questions so much where you have become jaded by it, them quit being a moderator or expert or whatever, or learn some people skills. No one likes a jerk.

BuZz

@jayram1408 Swearing / personal insults on the forum as your first post. Well done.