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    • RascasR
      Rascas @auswear
      last edited by Rascas

      @auswear Yes, this is more or less what I know from my experience in my country, I think it works more or less the same here. This is a bit complicated, because like you said, you can register different parts/things like, names, logos, intelectual property etc, and national or international, and depending what you do, the price changes alot.
      I am not aware of applications (intelectual property ?), but if it is like you said, since it seems that in this case it was approved for opposition in 2016-10-11, can't the real RetroPie still make an objection ?

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      • N
        Nismo
        last edited by

        I don't understand how some people can do this so easily, it's a shame.

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        • FlyingTomahawkF
          FlyingTomahawk
          last edited by FlyingTomahawk

          Sorry to hear about your troubles.
          This seems to be common practice these days. They register all kinds of names and URLs even stuff that doesn't exist yet. Just so that you have to pay them later to release that name or brand if you want it. Very sly way of doing business.
          These people are scum, the only thing they do is think how to piss on other peoples hard work so that they can enrich themselves.

          Those registration offices should really rethink their policies and stop people from registerering brand or names that they are not directly connected or associated with. These things should not happen in the first place.

          Worst case shut down everything, rename, rebrand, register everything and I mean everything , every single pixel. Then re-launch.

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          • caver01C
            caver01
            last edited by caver01

            What I don't understand is their angle. If they are trying to profit from selling something called RetroPie and then RetroPie rebrands, they have to do it all over again. It seems like you would want to leave well enough alone if you don't want the product to pivot underneath your marketing effort.

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            • hooperreH
              hooperre
              last edited by

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              His uploaded project on GitHub admits he isn't the original creator of EmulationStation.

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              • CapemanC
                Capeman
                last edited by Capeman

                Contact the Electronic Frontier Foundation, they sometimes offer pro-bono legal help to open source programmers who don't have the resources to pay for legal help. https://www.eff.org

                Or, drop the E from the project name and submit a copyright for RetroPi... i've never really understood the connection to baking.

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                • D
                  detron
                  last edited by

                  if there is a separate donation point for this legal issue let me know. I would like to help. may not be much, but if a lot of people give a little, I know it would help.

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                  • D
                    detron
                    last edited by

                    so, the same description for both Retropie and Emulation Station. and not even a good one.

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                    • edmaul69E
                      edmaul69
                      last edited by edmaul69

                      What you should do is try to crowdfund to pay for an ip lawyer. Then if you get the emulationstation guys do the same to pitch in you could make it cheaper and go after him for both.

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                      • mediamogulM
                        mediamogul Global Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Wow, talk about an all-around scumbag. It looks like he even got tech support from you guys when he was just getting started with RetroPie...

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                        • edmaul69E
                          edmaul69 @mediamogul
                          last edited by

                          @mediamogul in the legal fight this could be a good thing. It is proof that it is not his work.

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                          • FruitybitF
                            Fruitybit
                            last edited by

                            Donated again, I hope it will help- kinda makes me think this should be in help and support!) now we can give something back I hope.

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                            • mediamogulM
                              mediamogul Global Moderator
                              last edited by mediamogul

                              None of this should even be necessary. At my core, I'm actually a pretty cynical person and it's served me well over the years, but when I see an absolute new low in human behavior, it still gives me pause for thought. The lengths people have gone through in the recent past to steal a piece this project's identity for their own personal gain has consistently been disgusting, but the attempt to outright take the branding identity through legal channels absolutely blows my mind.

                              I don't believe in karma as being some sort of magical force, but I do believe that people who move through life with no regard for other people ultimately find themselves in a situation where they have no one willing to support or tolerate them and many even actively working against them to make their life difficult. If this is to be believed at all and that his actions here represent a pattern of despicable behavior, then I have no doubt that Aditya Rawat will find himself on the losing end of life before long.

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                              • R
                                romain
                                last edited by romain

                                Hi,
                                I can't really help you with this issue, just to say that there are some much crooked people around the world that I loose day after day my faith in humanity. But there are they are always people willing to help and support and that's a good sign that, the world is not totally insane after all. The only advise I could dive is to contact Ebay and Github to see if they can banned him because he tries to overcome your rights with this project. Also, a publication on slashdot.org could be cool to inform the world and let the geek worl know about your current issue and maybe help. Good Luck! I love Retropie and really hope this idiot will have what he deserved.

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                                • CapemanC
                                  Capeman
                                  last edited by

                                  Start loading up the official img with a ton of pirated roms, then forward all the lawsuits and take down notices to the guy who owns the copyright.

                                  Vector Artist, Designer and Maker of Stuff: Laser Cut Atari / Pixel Theme Bartop

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                                  • Lyle_JPL
                                    Lyle_JP @Capeman
                                    last edited by

                                    @Capeman It's a "burn it all down and salt the earth" tactic. It would destroy RetroPie with it.

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                                    • CapemanC
                                      Capeman @Lyle_JP
                                      last edited by

                                      @Lyle_JP I know, just being facetious

                                      Vector Artist, Designer and Maker of Stuff: Laser Cut Atari / Pixel Theme Bartop

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                                      • pjftP
                                        pjft
                                        last edited by

                                        I am deeply saddened to hear about this. Let me check on Monday if there's anyone I know that could help here. Also, EFF is definitely a good lead. And I'm all up for trademarking it in Europe if more domains would help. Just say the word.

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                                        • Lyle_JPL
                                          Lyle_JP
                                          last edited by

                                          Well, the next time anyone who bought a pre-built pi with games wanders in here and demands support, I know whose email address I'm giving them.

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                                          • obsidianspiderO
                                            obsidianspider
                                            last edited by

                                            Based on the trademark filing he has a product website, and wow, this guy has no shame in blatantly ripping off others' work for profit.

                                            📷 @obsidianspider

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