MAME ROW Rules and List Of Rounds

obsidianspider

asdfgasfhsn

@obsidianspider Wasn't quite sure where to post so I thought I'd reply here...

Anyways, I liked the idea of the MAME ROW so much that I put together a script that creates custom collections for the current ROW and/or all historic ROW's.

The script is available at;
https://github.com/asdfgasfhsn/retropie-mame-row

All feedback and PR's are welcome.

thelostsoul

I have a question about the rules. I know its Mame row, but my setup have Neo Geo games in different folder and uses AES bios and is played with Final Burn Alpha emulator. I don't want add those games second time under Mame, even if they could use different bios and emulator. Still the same game.

Is it then still allowed to post highscores at this place?

AndersHP

@thelostsoul
You can post hiscores, but the punishment for not using mame2003 on this board is hanging until death...!

Naah, I asked the same question here, you'll be allright I think :-)

thelostsoul

Then I come back as an undead (zombie or vampire) :P

If it is allowed, then the question is if some default settings are different. Also playing as second player have some differences at some games, but I don't know at which. Maybe a rule should be added to allow first player only. And what about turbo buttons? Allowed?

Also hopefully nobody uses rewind or save states, if Mame supports it.

By the way, Mame supports .inp files (input records). Not sure if mame 0.78 does. So for who who does want, could upload them here too as a zip file for verification maybe. But all those steps are probably too complicated for casual lets-have-just-fun highscore gaming.

cosmo0

It's a fun way to discover games, not a high-stake tournament with Guiness Book records... I'm not sure anybody cares enough to prevent you from using FBA, or save state, or input record, or simply just infinite credits. But that would be a lot of trouble for basically nothing.

IanDaemon

@cosmo0 I agree with the "fun way to discover games" comment. I'm personally not looking for bragging rights here, but some may. If people want to upload .INP files that's fine with me. I have no trouble sleeping at night being seen as a MAME scrub. XD

thelostsoul

@IanDaemon It seems you are targeting to me with scrub and bragging, because I asked for input files. My request for them was 9 month ago, when I was new to RetroPie. I misinterpreted it as some sort of competition and didn't realize it was about "fun and discovery" only. So, it is fine with me how it is now.

IanDaemon

@thelostsoul No, no offence intended. I wasn't targeting anyone. I was saying that I'm fine with being at the bottom of the list. That's fine with me. I'm doing it for fun and discovery because I know I'm not great at all these games. I didn't mean to imply anything.

thelostsoul

@IanDaemon Yeah sorry, I feel offended (happens too fast with me...). I take it back. Hopefully we can live in a civilized manner.

IanDaemon

@thelostsoul In un-related news last night I started pulling all of my NeoGeo games out of my Arcade folder...for no reason...they worked in that folder anyway. BUT I figure "hey why not", now I have another system listed in EmulationStation. [shrug]

thelostsoul

@IanDaemon If the games are using same emulator, then there is no reason why they shouldn't work. If you are interested in this topic, I can recommend you to read my thread. There is more than just copying the games, in example putting the games into console mode. And not all games for Neo Geo was officially licensed on the Neo Geo console: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/19976/why-separate-neo-geo-system-from-arcade

IanDaemon

And now I put them back.

thelostsoul

Here is a first version of a script/program to scrape the MAME ROW pages and to create a database out of it. It reads each page and tries to get the game information, including the romname. It generates a .json file which can be used in a variety of other ways. Also a .txt file is created alongside it too, which contains all roms and bios files. If input and output file are set to same (default), then only new games will be added. Unfortunately the script still downloads each page to analyze it.

The script in Python format is itself very rough and not finished, no comments. I may eventually work on it. Game page 1 and 52 are not formatted like the other pages and therefore missing the game data. Game page 139 is the only one not using a relative url. All in all, I had fun creating this and it is a proof of concept.

You don't need to use the script, if you are interested in the database files. Just download the files instead.