Chicuelo Theme

cosmo0

@chicuelo wow. So awesome <3 The Ghouls & Ghosts image is incredibly gorgeous. Seriously. I love it.

cosmo0

mame-libretro, mame-mame4all, mame = mame logo and mame character image
mame-advmame = advmame logo (needs creating), and maybe a new advmame image - or just the mame character image if not

You would split mame-advmame and the other mame-s? Why is that?

movisman

@cosmo0

Yeah, I see your point there. I think I thought this originally, because AdvanceMAME has a different logo and is a bit different to the others, and also looking at other themes like the default one (carbon) there was a different logo for it. I put a caveat at the end to perhaps still use a MAME character image, so I wasn't swaying either way really. But I think another logo needs creating for it, which I can take a look at if I can find an SVG.

If you have roms in the mame-libretro, mame-mame4all, mame, and mame-advmame they all appear as separate systems in the GUI. Thinking about it, I think a logo needs creating for it but the image should be the same for all MAME 'related' emulators. However FBA and Neo Geo to be different.

I will edit my post accordingly.

Cheers!

cosmo0

@movisman Yeah I think that's right. Different logos allow to differentiate between different MAME versions while scrolling, but the character image can stay the same.

movisman

@cosmo0

Yes, exactly that. 100% agree. I have quickly sorted an AdvanceMAME logo out which I will raise a PR for, and if @Chicuelo is happy that can also go into the logos directory :)

Cheers

movisman

Done and PR raised for that logo also:
https://github.com/chicueloarcade/es-theme-Chicuelo/pull/5

chicuelo

@movisman @cosmo0
Done the PR

Thanks guys you are giving a big help!

ohmycommodore

@chicuelo

Great work so far.

Looks like I could use Odyssey2/Videopac and Frotz/Infocom.

Finally... are you sure ColecoVision is a "1 Bit Console"? :)

chicuelo

@ohmycommodore
Sorry the Colecovision XML wasn't made by me, maybe its an input issue

cosmo0

Hi @chicuelo !

I have made a pull request so that the "ports" logo uses the DOOM font. I think it's much better :)
I also have reduced the controller size, it was pretty huge.

chicuelo

@cosmo0
You read my mind.
I updated ports image and I was thinking about that logo, I will make a pull now

cosmo0

@movisman since your update to the video game list, the logo is displayed on top of the game image, which is nice, except that I already have the logo in the image :D (I'm using "mix" images a bit like this).
Plus it doesn't go away when the video starts, and it's pretty weird to see the edges of the logo below the video.

Do you think you can check it out ? Or maybe I just need to re-scrape my games and not download the logos...

Other than that, I must say the image-then-video is a huge improvement to my games list feel :)

Thanks :)

chicuelo

@cosmo0 @movisman
I also want to add that the game logo must display over the video, not where the text of the console is. That changes all the theme aspect and I think it looks bad. I saw a video on youtube and I think the best way to display the game logo is over the video on the top right or bottom right corner.
Can we make this correction on the xml?

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movisman

@chicuelo @cosmo0

Hey both,

Sorry, I have been away for a couple of days :)

So I think you must be talking about the 'md_marquee' attribute? If so, I didn't make any adjustments to this one for my video 'fix', but looking at the theme.xml it looks like it's only active in the 'video' view (i think). But because I adjusted the image/video position a bit, I think I need to adjust the marquee one too.

I do not use marquees because I use a 'mix' for my image scrape (game screen, boxart, and game logo) which fades into video, and for MAME I use a 'title screenshot' for the image scrape which then fades to a video, because I found a mix scrape generally didn't find everything on screenscraper so I used title screen instead. Hope that makes sense.

However, just to check with you both - if there IS a marquee scraped, did you want me to try and have this moved to the bottom right corner of the image / video area, and have it placed on top?

If so I can have a go with it later this evening if I get chance, but wanted to check the requirement first - as maybe I am misunderstanding something. The only issue with this approach I can see, is if you have an image, logo AND a video scraped, the logo will get in the way of the image somewhat and look weird when you have a mixed image.

This will only cause issues if you have a 'mixed' image scraped I guess, but would look ok with a regular screenshot image.

Let me know :)

movisman

Hi,

Ok so had a very quick look (still checking this out) anyway..... it actually appears for me (on x86) above the image AND above the video, which I think is what @chicuelo was after?

However - it doesn't really appear in the best place as I suspected, because I never altered the marquee position. I will work on the positioning and come back to you shortly. I think bottom right of the image/video is best but will post a screen for you.

I wonder, are you guys using Raspberry Pi units? I am guessing so. If you are, I have a feeling something to do with the OMX player / hardware acceleration causes some of these issues with video / image overlays and what appears on top of where. Let me find a post which refers to it and i'll paste it here. On x86 I don't think OMX is used so there is no problem.

@cosmo0 - I see what you are saying about the logo being in the way when it's over the image, but i'm not too sure I can see another way around it, as people may just have a regular image (not a mix), and the logo would look ok then. I would be tempted to do what i've done if you are using mixed images and not use the marquee tag at all.

Cheers

movisman

@chicuelo @cosmo0

Ok, check this post out and the one directly below it:
https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/768/pixel-theme/643

It explains that when using OMX player, it has to be rendered on top of everything else. You can turn this off, then the logo will appear correctly (on top). However not sure on a Pi, the video performance may suffer. I think this is a limitation of the OMX player. For me, on x86 the marquee logo appears on top of both the image and video.

Thanks!

chicuelo

@movisman
I think the best will be to remove the md_marquee from the video mode (and other modes too). Have you any Idea of how can I achieve this?
So you only have displayed the game image or video even if you have scrapped box art or logos they will not be showed up.
It will be the best resolution to make the theme look always the same

movisman

@chicuelo

Yeah, we can simply remove that tag from the main theme.xml.

It means then if you have a marquee scraped it won't show up at all.

So this means, only a single media image and video will show up in the video view. Basically image which fades to video.
If you are in detailed (non-video) view, just the image will show up.

Personally, this is how I use the theme anyway (I don't use marquees/logos), especially since screenscraper.fr has the ability to combine logo, boxart, and screenshot into a single image.

I would agree it is best to remove marquee entirely - this way it doesn't matter whether you use OMX or not on a Pi.

If you do not use OMX, I can reposition the marquee so it is placed nicely to the bottom right of the image/video - however if you use OMX it'll always appear underneath, sadly.

Does that make sense?

Thanks!

cosmo0

I would be OK with removing the marquee from the theme.

This way, it doesn't show in a "random" place, and I can still download it during my scrape, if I ever want to use another theme that uses the marquee.

Thanks :)

movisman

@cosmo0 @chicuelo

Hey, I can reposition the marquee from it's current position to be laid over the main image/video in a more appropriate location. For example (white background used to give an idea of size - you can use a transparent PNG too which may look better):
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Only thing is, if you use OMX player on your Pi, the video will always appear on top of that marquee image if it overlaps. You have to disable OMX player (I believe) to have the marquee image laid over the video.

We could keep it, and I can sort out the position so it's like my image above. This way, it should always appear in the same place, no bigger - if you have the marquee image scraped. The only time it'll appear below the video (so basically invisible) is if you are using OMX player, which I think is default on the Pi (not sure). And obviously nothing will appear if you don't have the marquee scraped.

What is the preference? Personally I don't use marquees as I think the clean look of image > video, and system name and description looks nicer to me. But that is my personal view.

For a global look on all configurations which just works (regardless of video player etc), dropping the marquee or moving it entirely is the only fool-proof solution I believe.

However - on the other hand, if the marquee/logo stays within the video boundary (which I think I can make it do), and if the user isn't using OMX and has a marquee scraped, it will appear like the above, which might be desired. And if the user is using OMX, the logo will appear above the image, but unfortunately when the video when it starts to play it will be underneath and not seen.

Happy to work in whatever :) personally, I do not use logos/marquees because I have mixed image scrapes for all systems bar MAME, so I get the logo within the main image anyway. So my vote is to not use the tag - other people may disagree though.

Just let me know - I can then raise a PR for my theme.xml edit to reposition the marquee so it's in a better position and you can test.....or I can just remove that tag entirely from the theme.

Thanks!