Chicuelo Theme

EctoOne

@chicuelo nah, ports are standalone emulators/tools. Everything that doesn't fit into it's own category. Stuff like Doom, Kodi (if installed the normal way), Raspbian Desktop or Chromium (from the extra repo) will show up in Ports.

Edit:
That's why I actually don't like the Ports image, because it has the potential to have Applications in there. On the other hand, I can't think of anything else that would make a good image for both games and applications.

chicuelo

@ectoone
uploaded Pc

EctoOne

@chicuelo Awesome, one last complaint/suggestion. I don't know where you got the controller image for Amiga, but that looks more like a mockup based on a C64. I think it was already suggested to either use an Amiga 500 or Amiga 1200. Those were the most common gaming versions. Or an Amiga 600 if you can't find a good image of the other two.
As an old Amiga user, I almost feel offended by that image. ;)

movisman

@ectoone

Yes, it was me who suggested a stock A500 or A1200 image before - I was an old Amiga user too :) agreed an A500 or A1200 is a good image to use, or A600. However on Wikipedia, there is a decent A500+ image which is top down and transparent - @chicuelo, perhaps this could be used?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Amiga_500_Plus_(transparent_background).png

or the non-shadow version:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Amiga_500_Plus_(transparent_background)_(no_shadow).png

chicuelo

@movisman @chicuelo
Thank you guys, that keyboard was a composition of various keyboards so its no accurate, I am going to Digg a little bit more and try to use an exact one

movisman

@chicuelo

No worries! Is the one I posted above no good? It is an official A500+ machine which followed on from the A500. Perhaps it is not what you are after.

Cheers!

chicuelo

@movisman
This will fit fine with some little adjustments! right now Im traveling on the weekend and when I come back I'll get over it!

movisman

@chicuelo

Perfect, sounds good! Have a great weekend! The theme is looking so awesome now, and getting to a much more completed state.

Cheers

cosmo0

@chicuelo

Have a nice weekend :)

I'm not sure which one is the worst... :( I think I'll switch to another game... :(

I have the opposite problem with fighting genre, I don't know which I prefer... :D

movisman

@cosmo0

Hey,

I think they are all great - but I don't know which I prefer!

Possibly the Bison one for Fighting, and maybe the one with both players for Puzzle if I had to pick?!

Cheers

cosmo0

@movisman Thanks :)
I also prefer Bison for fighting.

For Bubble Bobble, I really like the two costumes, I think they're SUPER CUTE <3 but they don't really match the "blister", they look much too "deep" and it makes them look out of place.

The second one is a bit off-color, but looking at it again I think it's not so bad after all. I think I can work with it to make it match the "real" colors.

celly

@cosmo0 i honestly think it should be Ryu, if picking a fighter from the SF franchise. My .02¢

cosmo0

@celly I like the idea of picking a less-obvious character :)

I'm also having trouble deciding between characters in sports... I have finally found 3D models for Speedball, I will remake the logo :)

The first is front-facing, but it's a robot :(
The second is better-looking, but is not front-facing like in the other genres.
There is no other front-facing Speedball 3D model :/

EctoOne

Maybe @chicuelo or somebody else, should make another repo with alternative versions, so if a user wants something different, it can be replaced.
I mean all the different versions could be included in the theme repo, but personally I don't like it when stuff gets bloated with unnecessary files.
If someone makes such a repo, it would also be good if the templates are provided as well.

cosmo0

@ectoone Well I have no problem with providing all the sources of my modifications :)
If @chicuelo makes another repository for the sources I will commit them there.

movisman

@cosmo0

Yeah, I also liked the second puzzle one too. They are all good but I see what you mean on the costume one. If you decide on the second one and change the colours about a bit, dunno if it is worth reducing the size of the creature slightly as it looks a tiny bit large atm inside the blister?

Regarding the sports one, both of those are really nice. And very pleased you chose Speedball! :) obviously a human is more suitable than the robot, but of course the robot is face on. I wonder, does it matter too much that the human character is half side-on? Some of the others are not totally front facing, some are slightly turned (albeit not as much)?

Cheers

chicuelo

@cosmo0 @movisman @EctoOne
Hi Guys! Im back, great work! here are my thoughts. For the puzzle series I would use the last without a doubt, but adding another ball, they are very big, I think reducing 40/50% the size and adding another will result much better!
For fighting I do prefer bison, but the gloves a bit bigger and maybe replacing the bag with a speedball? if there is too much blank space you could add a mouthguard (I have some png objects from an old work I´ve done so if you need I can provide them). My suggestion for sports: Maybe because I am from South America, but I don't get too much sports, I love the helmet, but the iron ball, the bat and the character I don't know if they represents the activity, I though about something more like this. Tell me what do you think, its just an idea to communicate sports

About making alternative versions. I prefer having only an oficial version, so the quality of the theme remains, otherwise I think it will start changing. I made a theme for Hyperspin and I saw a lot of bad handled variants.

chicuelo

@movisman @cosmo0 @EctoOne
Guys, I was watching some user with the theme and I note they have some issues with the artwork, for example a N64 theme were the controller was VERY big, do you see all of your systems properly? I can't test all of them because I have only a Pi and not a pc.
Thanks!

Youtube capture, Controller is huge
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cosmo0

@chicuelo
I have a few things to fix still but I think I'm almost done. I have noted what you said and will edit the images accordingly.

About the huge controllers : I also found that a few controllers were a bit too large. The controllers height is not always the same : most controllers are about 250 to 300px high, but for instance N64 is almost 400px high.
It's not a problem for "vertical" controllers (GB, GBC, Atari 5200...) but for others (N64, PSX...) it can look weird.

I suspect the problem is amplified if you use a small resolution (720p or below) but I haven't tested.

In the theme the controller size is not set, so I imagine it's as large as possible

 <image name="controller" extra="true">
	<path>./_assets/controllers/${system.theme}.png</path>
	<tile>false</tile>
	<origin>1 1</origin>
	<pos>0.98 0.98</pos>
  </image>

chicuelo

@cosmo0
yes, at first there was a max height, but the gameboy controllers look very tiny so I removed. I test the theme on a 7" pi screen and it looks fine, also on a 1440x900 px screen and with an RCA cable on a small crt tv and it looks fine too. I dont know that the issue could be