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      sub_atomic
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      Darius Gaiden is incredibly slow on my Pi3 B+ when using lr-fbalpha. It runs faster, but not perfectly, with lr-mame2003. Anyone else having the same experience?

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        barbudreadmon @sub_atomic
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        @sub_atomic iirc, it is recommended to play taito f3 games with advancemame.

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          markwkidd @sub_atomic
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          @sub_atomic said in FBA vs. MAME:

          Darius Gaiden is incredibly slow on my Pi3 B+ when using lr-fbalpha. It runs faster, but not perfectly, with lr-mame2003. Anyone else having the same experience?

          Please feel free to report the issue with Darius Gaiden in mame2003's github repository if you like. I don't think I've seen that submitted as an issue and it may be possible to fix by backporting from a later mame version.

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          • LoggaheadL
            Loggahead @Pussyfoot
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            @pussyfoot said in FBA vs. MAME:

            Also, where is the config to identify which games I am using MAME 2010? I know the Rampage games need 2010.

            I put all of my roms in the arcade folder and use 2003, 2010, and fba to run them. I found that the emulators.cfg file under configs/all contains the info on which emulator is being used for which particualr rom if it is anything other than the default for that folder.

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              sub_atomic @barbudreadmon
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              @barbudreadmon said in FBA vs. MAME:

              @sub_atomic iirc, it is recommended to play taito f3 games with advancemame.

              In the text files linked in this thread, it's listed as best in fb alpha, so that needs to be updated.

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                Deltax5
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                I am using mame 2003 at the moment but some games on FBA. I can say FBA is actually a better emulator if you put in accuracy I don't remember what the setting it called. Thou you kinda need your pi overclocked quite a bit for neogeo games and down to run good.
                I don't know much about mame settings what you guys say?

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                  barbudreadmon
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                  @andershp There was some changes to the gyruss mcu (music core unit) with the new release, let me know if it fixes your "fuzzy" sound issue. The hiscore seems to work properly too.

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                    sub_atomic
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                    Gunbird 2 runs much better in mame2003 than fb-alpha.

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                      barbudreadmon @sub_atomic
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                      @sub_atomic said in FBA vs. MAME:

                      Gunbird 2 runs much better in mame2003 than fb-alpha.

                      No, you just didn't turn on the speedhack in dipswitches.

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                        sub_atomic @johnodon
                        last edited by sub_atomic

                        @johnodon

                        arcade_nbbatmanu = "lr-mame2003" should be arcade_nbbatman = "lr-mame2003"

                        @barbudreadmon said in FBA vs. MAME:

                        @sub_atomic said in FBA vs. MAME:

                        Gunbird 2 runs much better in mame2003 than fb-alpha.

                        No, you just didn't turn on the speedhack in dipswitches.

                        Ah, got it. Works much better now, thanks!

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                        • cosmo0C
                          cosmo0
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                          I have tested my list under FBA and MAME 2003. I haven't tested under Advance MAME, because I don't have a keyboard, so I can't setup the controls.

                          I have updated my lists accordingly. I used FBA as "best" as long as it didn't have obvious problems (slowdowns or crashes). I'm assuming the games that don't work properly (or at all) in either FBA or MAME2003 probably work on AdvanceMAME.

                          name fba mame2003
                          1943kai ok -
                          720 - ok
                          airwolf ok ok
                          arknoid2 way too sensitive a bit too sensitive, not quite playable
                          bionicc ok ok
                          bublbobl ok ok
                          fantzn2 - black screen at launch
                          gng ok ok
                          gt2k - -
                          gradius4 - -
                          offroad - ok
                          jojoba ok -
                          marble - ok
                          mshu ok ok
                          mk4 - so slow it makes the system unresponsive
                          nbapbp - -
                          orunners - broken display, screen stuck on top left
                          polepos - ok
                          polepos2 - ok
                          pbobble4 parent crashes - pbobble4u is slow ok
                          rtype ok ok
                          rampart - ok
                          ramprt2p - ok
                          roadblst - ok
                          invadpt2 - ok
                          sf2 ok ok
                          sf2ce ok ok
                          rbtapper - stuck on system check, makes the sytem unresponsive
                          tron - no control is set up, not even credit
                          turbo - ok
                          vanguard - ok
                          wbml ok ok
                          xevious - ok
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                            grant2258 Banned @cosmo0
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                            tron and rbtapper work on mame2003 you need to update to a later version the was an issue with bally and input on some other games. That has been addressed already.

                            One side effect is the dip switch setting from the buged games that were started arent set right the easiest solution is to delete everything in the cfg dir accept for default.cfg or delete the rbtapper.cfg and tron.cfg these games do work. I dont have a list of them all but rbtapper can be fixed from the tab menu if you want to do it the hard way

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                            • LoggaheadL
                              Loggahead
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                              I noticed last night that fba is playing green beret / rush'n attack extremely fast. I know it was running at normal speed for me at one point. The only thing I know of changing was upgrading to retropie 4.4 and I've upgraded fba from source. Can anyone else test those games and see if it's doing the same for you?

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                                grant2258 Banned @Loggahead
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                                @loggahead said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                d for me at one point. The only thing I know of changing was upgrading to retropie 4.4 and I've upgraded fba from source. Can anyone else test those games and see if it's doing the

                                maybe there timing setup wasnt setup right for retroach and the update knocked it off or a regression of some sort in the code. Mame2003+ is running that games
                                perfect if you want to play it. Mame2003 should be fine to just use the binary atm there a pull request in for mame2003 for a few fixes

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                                  Loggahead @grant2258
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                                  @grant2258 Maybe I'll give 2003+ a shot. I remember that Rush'n Attack / Green Beret didn't work properly in Mame2003. When the game would boot it was just bringing up a volume slider on the screen. Similar to Spy Hunter and Rampage.

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                                    markwkidd @Loggahead
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                                    @loggahead said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                    @grant2258 Maybe I'll give 2003+ a shot. I remember that Rush'n Attack / Green Beret didn't work properly in Mame2003. When the game would boot it was just bringing up a volume slider on the screen. Similar to Spy Hunter and Rampage.

                                    That is all fixed now in mame2003-plus. Eventually the fixes may go back to mame2003

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                                      Loggahead @markwkidd
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                                      @markwkidd said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                      @loggahead said in FBA vs. MAME:

                                      @grant2258 Maybe I'll give 2003+ a shot. I remember that Rush'n Attack / Green Beret didn't work properly in Mame2003. When the game would boot it was just bringing up a volume slider on the screen. Similar to Spy Hunter and Rampage.

                                      That is all fixed now in mame2003-plus. Eventually the fixes may go back to mame2003

                                      Excellent! So I noticed that mame2003+ is an experimental package, should I only look to use this on roms I can't get to run in mame2003 or is it safe to consider using + as a replacement to mame2003?

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                                      • markwkiddM
                                        markwkidd
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                                        mame2003-plus is still in testing, but it's getting fairly polished at this point IMO. arcadez has been working on it for almost a year, and a few other of us have put in weeks to months.

                                        It works better than mame2003 most of the time, and has more than 150 more working games, but every once in a while we have a regression or other new bug.

                                        You seem to be very thorough in your approach to arcade emulation -- you would be very welcome as a user/tester. Games that haven't ever worked right in mame2003 are getting fixed, and new ones added.

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                                          Loggahead @markwkidd
                                          last edited by Loggahead

                                          @markwkidd This all sounds awesome! I will install the package tonight and start testing roms.

                                          Is it ok to do from binary or do I need to do it from source? Where is the best place to report any issues I find?

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                                            barbudreadmon @Loggahead
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                                            @loggahead Well, i'm not extremely happy with the current fix, but Rush'n Attack / Green Beret are working properly in fba with the latest commits.

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