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(Request) Add Libretro Neogeo CD Emulator

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    barbudreadmon @Winklepicker
    last edited by 15 Mar 2019, 07:09

    @Winklepicker said in (Request) Add Libretro Neogeo CD Emulator:

    I checked the bios I am using and its called "neocd_z.rom". I did have a massive problem trying to locate a neogeo cd bios.

    Also the images of the games I'm running are "Img" and "cue" files, via a "TruRip" set.

    Sadly that was not enough informations for me to reproduce it :

    • Which version of kof95 iso were you running ? The TRURIP ngcd isoset has 4 of them (2 revisions of the game x 2 localizations)
    • Having the hashes of all your bioses in the bios/neocd folder would help
    • What about core options ?

    While it's not a big deal, it's always better to fix an issue when it is found, however we first need to be able to reproduce it

    FBNeo developer - github - forum

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      Darksavior @Winklepicker
      last edited by Darksavior 15 Mar 2019, 09:58

      @Winklepicker I get the artwork cut off as well. I really don't care. Due to the fast loading hacks, I see it for like a second. I'm using some img/cue rip with the cdz bios.
      You can report the issue to the dev's github so he can take a look at the problem.

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        Winklepicker @barbudreadmon
        last edited by Winklepicker 15 Mar 2019, 15:30

        @barbudreadmon said in (Request) Add Libretro Neogeo CD Emulator:

        @Winklepicker said in (Request) Add Libretro Neogeo CD Emulator:

        I checked the bios I am using and its called "neocd_z.rom". I did have a massive problem trying to locate a neogeo cd bios.

        Also the images of the games I'm running are "Img" and "cue" files, via a "TruRip" set.

        Sadly that was not enough informations for me to reproduce it :

        • Which version of kof95 iso were you running ? The TRURIP ngcd isoset has 4 of them (2 revisions of the game x 2 localizations)
        • Having the hashes of all your bioses in the bios/neocd folder would help
        • What about core options ?

        While it's not a big deal, it's always better to fix an issue when it is found, however we first need to be able to reproduce it

        I checked the files that I'm using

        bios:
        neocd_z.rom - f39572af7584cb5b3f70ae8cc848aba2

        ng-lo.rom - e255264d85d5765013b1b2fa8109dd53

        The games I'm using are:
        King of Fighters '95, The (Wld) - [19951005].img
        Real Bout Fatal Fury (Wld).img
        King of Fighters '97, The (Wld).img

        I haven't touched the core options

        My version of the emulator crashes when I load Samurai Showdown III

        I read there is an update to the emulator that fixes that, how would I go about updating the emulator to the newest version?

        Maybe the latest version has fixed the loading cutoff screen?

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          mitu Global Moderator @Winklepicker
          last edited by 15 Mar 2019, 15:37

          @Winklepicker Just to be clear, you're using https://github.com/fabrice-martinez/neocd_libretro and not lr-fbalpha ?

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            Winklepicker @mitu
            last edited by 15 Mar 2019, 20:13

            @mitu said in (Request) Add Libretro Neogeo CD Emulator:

            @Winklepicker Just to be clear, you're using https://github.com/fabrice-martinez/neocd_libretro and not lr-fbalpha ?

            The one I am using was the link that MajorDangerNine added onto the first couple of posts on the thread, is that the correct I should be using?

            Readme says :
            put "lr-neocd" in "/opt/retropie/libretrocores".

            Put "neogeocd" in "/opt/retropie/configs".

            Put BIOS "/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/neocd".

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              Darksavior @Winklepicker
              last edited by 15 Mar 2019, 23:58

              @Winklepicker You'll have to build it from source manually since there's no script for it in retropie-setup. No, it does not fix the images. That's why I said to open the issue at the dev's github if you wish.

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                thorias
                last edited by thorias 16 Mar 2019, 21:19

                @MajorDangerNine said in (Request) Add Libretro Neogeo CD Emulator:

                The emulator runs full speed on a stock RPi3B, and I even had the zfast CRT standard shader running with it. The emulation hacks are wonderful as well. Not enough processing power overhead to run RetroArch's RunAhead latency hack though.

                No idea if anyone wants this, but I threw together this manual install for NeoCD. It was compiled on my RPi3B, but I guess it'll work on other Pi versions. if there are any problems, don't hesitate to tell me.

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                @MajorDangerNine

                Please could you compile the latest version for RPI 3 B+ from Fabrice Martinez Github as you did previously and share it?
                Also please provide steps on how to install it in Retropie.

                Thank you a lot for this! (Many Noobs will appreciate!) :-)

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                  MajorDangerNine @thorias
                  last edited by 16 Mar 2019, 23:49

                  @thorias See if this works. Can't test it at the moment, but it looks like it compiled correctly.

                  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VxemRLXoQxjtBijyYdYSoX2XSgukzqgm/view?usp=sharing

                  Recompiled the latest build using set(CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS_RELEASE "${CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS_RELEASE} -march=armv8-a+crc -mtune=cortex-a53 ${BASE_CXX_OPTIONS}"), and included an updated README for how to install/use it.

                  SBCGaming | Unofficial RetroPie Discord

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                    thorias @MajorDangerNine
                    last edited by 17 Mar 2019, 18:24

                    @MajorDangerNine

                    That's brilliant! Thanks a lot again for this!! 8-)
                    I'll test it and report back.

                    Merci!

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                      Winklepicker @MajorDangerNine
                      last edited by Winklepicker 20 Mar 2019, 03:31

                      @MajorDangerNine said in (Request) Add Libretro Neogeo CD Emulator:

                      @thorias See if this works. Can't test it at the moment, but it looks like it compiled correctly.

                      https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VxemRLXoQxjtBijyYdYSoX2XSgukzqgm/view?usp=sharing

                      Recompiled the latest build using set(CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS_RELEASE "${CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS_RELEASE} -march=armv8-a+crc -mtune=cortex-a53 ${BASE_CXX_OPTIONS}"), and included an updated README for how to install/use it.

                      Thank you MajorDangerNine for compiling new build

                      You listed the instructions very clearly and precise in the zip file for installing manually, I tested the new build and all is working nice as "Samurai Showdown 3" also works perfect.

                      Many thanks

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                        barbudreadmon
                        last edited by 20 Mar 2019, 09:53

                        I see a lot of ppl wanting to use neocd_libretro in this topic, is there any issue with lr-fbalpha for running ngcd games ? Afaik, ngcd emulation in lr-fbalpha should be perfect after the january/february updates.

                        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                          MajorDangerNine @barbudreadmon
                          last edited by 20 Mar 2019, 13:22

                          @barbudreadmon I guess people either want the emulation hacks it offers, or they aren't aware that lr-fbalpha can emulate Neo Geo CD.

                          Seems like a Neo Geo CD page in the RetroPie Docs would help. I'd make one, but pretty sure I would break the documentation if I tried to add a page to it.

                          SBCGaming | Unofficial RetroPie Discord

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                            barbudreadmon @MajorDangerNine
                            last edited by 20 Mar 2019, 13:42

                            @MajorDangerNine said in (Request) Add Libretro Neogeo CD Emulator:

                            I guess people either want the emulation hacks it offers

                            I'm not too familiar with the usefulness of the various bios options, afaik any game, protected or not, works in lr-fbalpha as long as you have neogeo.zip and neocdz.zip in your fba bios folder. And for the cd speedhack/skipping options, trying to reduce even more the "less-than-2-seconds-loading" in lr-fbalpha seems overkill. The only issue might be that it's kinda restrictive on the iso formats (only supports ccd and single file cue/bin)

                            FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                              Darksavior @barbudreadmon
                              last edited by Darksavior 20 Mar 2019, 22:32

                              @barbudreadmon I use this over lr-fbalpha because of the speedhacks, yes. The dev also has a slight interest in adding .chd in the future. I faintly remember you saying you had little interest in neocd so I'm not expecting speedhacks in fbalpha anytime soon if ever.

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                                barbudreadmon @Darksavior
                                last edited by 20 Mar 2019, 23:32

                                @Darksavior said in (Request) Add Libretro Neogeo CD Emulator:

                                I faintly remember you saying you had little interest in neocd

                                That's true, but since there was some motivation to rewrite the ngcd driver upstream, i made sure to report all bugs and feature requests. As i said, the loading speedhacks are already in fbalpha, loading speed might be x15 or something.
                                Upstream have no plans to add chd support so a libretro bounty was opened about it.

                                FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                  thorias @thorias
                                  last edited by 23 Mar 2019, 20:16

                                  @thorias said in (Request) Add Libretro Neogeo CD Emulator:

                                  @MajorDangerNine

                                  That's brilliant! Thanks a lot again for this!! 8-)
                                  I'll test it and report back.

                                  Merci!

                                  I just tested it now and is 100%!! Great clear instructions!
                                  Thanks again!! :-)

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                                    janderclander14
                                    last edited by janderclander14 13 Jun 2019, 22:07

                                    Just to update that CHD has been recently added to the emulator. Given the benefits over FBNeo and that it has been added to Libretro, would it be possible to add this emulator to Retropie?

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                                      Darksavior @janderclander14
                                      last edited by 14 Jun 2019, 22:25

                                      @janderclander14 I compiled the new version with chd support: https://drive.google.com/open?id=12VrMatgrAKIpXqlUPeSmvDcIFKEYKIzV

                                      Install MajorDangerNine's first and then replace it with my binary.

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                                        MajorDangerNine @Darksavior
                                        last edited by 15 Jun 2019, 00:20

                                        @Darksavior I updated my archive/guide with the binary you made. Updated some other parts of it as well related to the Final Burn Neo change and newly recognized BIOSes.

                                        https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VxemRLXoQxjtBijyYdYSoX2XSgukzqgm/view?usp=sharing

                                        Exciting times.

                                        SBCGaming | Unofficial RetroPie Discord

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                                          janderclander14 @Darksavior
                                          last edited by janderclander14 15 Jun 2019, 10:21

                                          @Darksavior Thanks a lot! This saved me like 17gb! By the way, here you can find a very comprehensive list of neoCD games with arranged music:

                                          http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?58668-Which-Neo-Geo-CD-Games-Have-Arranged-Music-New-Thread&p=3746963&viewfull=1#post3746963

                                          And here a description of the games that have some changes (for the better or the worse) w.r.t. AES. It's in French, so you may need Google translator

                                          https://neogeocdworld.pagesperso-orange.fr/jeux/BonusNGCD.htm

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