[Theme Changes] Attention Theme Makers: Upcoming Game Collections in ES

Capeman

@hurricanefan Actually... not on mine. I was stupid a while back and updated the es_systems.cfg in the /etc/ folder using root access instead of duplicating it and adding it to the user folder where i should have... Sooo yeah, oops... no original to reference.

HurricaneFan

@capeman I don't actually see any new systems show up in the default file. This might all be meta data based from the gamelist files only.

Capeman

Weird... i wonder why my collections keeps disappearing from the carousel on restart... There must be something I'm missing.

HurricaneFan

@capeman After you turn that setting off from earlier. Mark a game as favorite and then shutdown emulationstation to save the data. Then restart the pi. Is it still a favorite?

Capeman

The favorites are saving in the meta fine after i switched on the save-meta on exit function.

The problem I'm having is i have to re-enable the "favorites" collection to make it appear on the carousel every time i restart my pi - which is why i was wondering if i was missing an es_systems.cfg entry or something along those lines.

TMNTturtlguy

@capeman @HurricaneFan can I suggest you guys start a new thread for this? This thread is intended for themes/thememakers development of themes for the new changes. A. New topic with appropriate title will also help get more views and potential fixes/explanations for the problem. Thanks!

Capeman

No worries and sorry bout that, I just solved the issue in the past few minutes (bad es_settings.cfg file). No more out of me, til i post my completed Favorites Logo.

Capeman

I think this looks pretty rad! I use the simple theme with the blurred bkg's as a basis for my default theme so i blurred the pixel collage, but i still have the sharp version saved. If anyone wants the logo or image, let me know.

mediamogul

@capeman

I think this looks pretty rad!

Rad indeed sir. It's always nice to see these things come together. To that end, I believe I finally have a solution to 'All Games' that I'm satisfied with. I also thought my 'Collections' logo was a little sparse an could use some color, so I used Starlord's ship decor from 'Guardians of the Galaxy' as inspiration and added a boss sticker.

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cyperghost

@Capeman
Is your theme intended to update the "simple"-theme? Do you think you can fork and update this? This was the first stock theme in ES

@mediamogul
Nice catch.
Collections now look even better
Favorites star folder instead of heart, maybe you can switch the heart back in the labeling :) but I'm not sure if this looks consistent.
All Games - nice idea and is self explaining
Last Played - As i said in my comment earlier ... I like this one

pjft

@capeman thanks. Just to close this off, there should be no need to edit any single thing outside of EmulationStation. Hopefully you didn't edit your systems config file or anything.

While you're at it, what was wrong with your settings file that was preventing these from being saved?

Best.

Capeman

I'm really not sure what was wrong with the settings cfg file. I may have edited it once in the past using the root account accidentally, that would have screwed up it's permissions. Nuking the file and reuploading my saved version seemed to fix it, so im guessing that was the culprit.

I've stopped using root access recently since i found that you can add es_systems.cfg and the themes folder to the /.emulationstation folder under opt.

So basically, nobody would have had the same issue as me since i was using an old work-around, and because i was dumb. haha.

ohmycommodore

Just catching up on all this and trying out the three auto-collections. Can someone tell me how the custom-collections will eventually be handled on the user end? It obviously can't be as simple as marking games for favourites...

mediamogul

@ohmycommodore

~~To my understanding, you'll need to edit the game entries in the various game gamelist.xml files with something akin to:~~

~~<collection>Mario Games</collection>~~

~~At which point a sub-heading named 'Mario Games' containing the games you marked would then be accessible from the 'Collections' menu.~~

Edit: After rereading the explanation above, I think I'm off on this. I'm sure @pjft will clarify it's usage.

pjft

@mediamogul @ohmycommodore

If you disregard the need for a black robe and the added chanting, it will be close to marking games as favorites.

EDIT: Just to make it clear: I don't want anyone to have to go to the command-line or manually edit any files to make things work. And that would apply to most - if not all - of the ES developments. I'll concede that one may need a keyboard should one want to name a collection, meaning that that particular aspect wouldn't work on a an arcade setup, but that's the full extent of it.

mediamogul

@pjft said in [Theme Changes] Attention Theme Makers: Upcoming Game Collections in ES:

@mediamogul @ohmycommodore
If you disregard the need for a black robe and the added chanting

Ha! ...and here I overstocked on goat's blood in preparation. You can't give that stuff away after the first full moon of the season.

Just to make it clear: I don't want anyone to have to go to the command-line or manually edit any files to make things work. And that would apply to most - if not all - of the ES developments. I'll concede that one may need a keyboard should one want to name a collection, meaning that that particular aspect wouldn't work on a an arcade setup, but that's the full extent of it.

Very promising and very exciting. Your attention to the user experience is greatly appreciated.

pjft

@mediamogul said in [Theme Changes] Attention Theme Makers: Upcoming Game Collections in ES:

Ha! ...and here I overstocked on goats blood in preparation. You can't give that stuff away after the first full moon of the season.

I'm sure I can add that as an option.

ohmycommodore

this will be so usable / functional, that if you can get it as friendly as possible it will be worth the effort i'd say.

mediamogul

@cyperghost

Favorites star folder instead of heart, maybe you can switch the heart back in the labeling :) but I'm not sure if this looks consistent.

I always like to keep iconography consistent wherever possible in interface design. My thoughts for 'Favorites' is that it have a very warm and personal feeling to it. I believe a casual, handwritten typeface works to that effect and to add a little bit of warmth and color, I thought dotting the 'i' with a red heart followed nicely. However, it had the side-effect of also reading as romantic, or flirty, which I believe muddied the intention.

Of course, replacing the heart with a star requires that the color be changed from a red to something from the yellow or orange family. To keep the "warm" feeling I wanted, yellow was eliminated immediately as it has the connotation of being an energetic color first and foremost. Orange does too, but to a much lesser extent, especially when it's mixture tips the scale back toward a warmer red.

cyperghost

@mediamogul said in [Theme Changes] Attention Theme Makers: Upcoming Game Collections in ES:

My thoughts for 'Favorites' is that it have a very warm and personal feeling to it. I believe a casual, handwritten typeface works to that effect and to add a little bit of warmth and color

It worked for me!

I thought dotting the 'i' with a heart followed nicely. However, it had the side-effect of also reading as romantic, or flirty, which I believe muddied the intention.

Yes, my first attempt of a favorite for IO theme was also a heart. Stars are better, you rate with stars, you have stars and starlets as actor/actress and if you mark something within a letter to keep a downnote then you also use a star :)

Of course, replacing the heart with a star requires that the color be changed from a red to something from the yellow or orange family. To keep the "warm" feeling I wanted, yellow was eliminated immediately as it has the connotation of being an energetic color first and foremost. Orange does too, but to a much lesser extent, especially when it's mixture tips the scale back toward a warmer red.

Maybe you can work with color gradiation? Red to yellow/orange from outbounds of the star to inner? You need a strong color to keep shape. Otherwise it will look blurry.