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    Versatile C++ game scraper: Skyscraper

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    • RionR
      Rion
      last edited by Rion

      Opps dobbel post..

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        LocVez @muldjord
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        @muldjord Many thanks!

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        • AnalogHeroA
          AnalogHero
          last edited by

          @LocVez They banned me in the past, but after 2 weeks it worked again. Im glad it wasnt forever.

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          • muldjordM
            muldjord
            last edited by

            Wooooooo!!! Video tutorial!!!

            Please spread the word! :)

            Please, please, PLEASE check this out if you are new to Skyscraper. I have a feeling most people only use Skyscraper to just scrape once using the default scraper and then leave it like that. It really is too bad, since the most important feature in Skyscraper is the local db cache. This video explains why it's important.

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            • AnalogHeroA
              AnalogHero
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              @muldjord Thanks for the video. As i see now, i did it right. What bugs me a little is what happend in your video.
              After the default scrape, you scraped with thegamesdb.
              Then you scraped with uvlist and afterwards with localdb.
              Result: 1 game skipped.
              Then you scraped with screenscraper and afterwards localdb.
              Result: 2 games skipped.

              Hope you understand what i try to say. :)
              This happened on my retropie aswell.

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              • muldjordM
                muldjord @AnalogHero
                last edited by muldjord

                @analoghero Ah, I know why! It's because the search match becomes too low for one of the games because of how the title is prioritized from the different scraping modules. So one title makes the search match go below 50% which it didn't when scraping with the source originally. So basically it is /meant/ to do this, but I should still look into it. I'll figure something out for 1.8.3.

                Bottom line, it's not an error, just lower the minMatch to '0' with '-m 0' when scraping with localdb and you'll get the nice result again. :) But I do want this to make sense to the user, so I'll do something about it anyways.

                I do have another very minor bug I found while investigating this though, so I'm glad you brought it up. Either way, 1.8.2 is working just fine, so no need to hold your breath for 1.8.3. :)

                EDIT: I've had some more time to think about this "problem". And I've decided to leave it, simply because it isn't an error at all. I can see how it seems confusing that addmore resources from more scrapers suddenly makes it skip more games than previously. But the explanation is simply that the title of a game from a certain module is prioritized above the other titles, and that title makes is go below the minimum match percentage threshold. This is easily "fixed" by lowering the threshold. And it is /supposed/ to work like this. The priorities can easily be changed inside the 'priorities.xml' file as described in the documentation on github. So in the case of the Youtube howto I made, lowering the 'title' priority for 'screenscraper' to go below that of 'mobygames' will /also/ make the "problem" go away. I am absolutely in agreement that this seems puzzling if you don't understand or make use of the priorities. It seems like it "going backwards" when you scrape with more scrapers, when in fact it just got a title from a new scraper that was of higher priority and then gave a worse percentual match to the filename. That's all it is. And it's not an error. :)

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                • Used2BeRXU
                  Used2BeRX
                  last edited by Used2BeRX

                  Every one of my gamelists are in home/pi/RetroPie/Gamelists.

                  That way when I re-run the script meleu has been working on and they get updated there, the symbolic links from the location that Emulation Station looks for them link to all of the files in a single folder and they automatically work on a reboot instead of having to manually move 12 to 15 files to as many locations when an update is made.

                  Might want to look into doing something like that yourself. Saves a ton of time, especially when you're probably updating things all the time with the testing you're doing.

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                  • muldjordM
                    muldjord
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                    EmuMovies has accepted my request for developer access. I'll get the details soon and start looking into an implementation. I'll keep you posted. :)

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                    • HurricaneFanH
                      HurricaneFan
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                      @muldjord Is there a way to have boxart without a drop shadow and not centered. Like just a raw boxart image?

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                      • muldjordM
                        muldjord @HurricaneFan
                        last edited by

                        @hurricanefan Yes, please read the readme on github.

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                          StephanePare
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                          I've noticed that out of 700 NES titles, there's 32 that your scraper can't recognize purely because the article (the, a) is already at the end in the original file name (As per GOOD tools standard), messing with the name recognition. for example:

                          Punisher, the

                          Simple name, but big problems finding it even though the default emulationstation scraper finds it no problem. for now I'll simply rename the offending roms and re-run the scraper when I have time, but I thought this might be worth mentionning. Originally there was 50 titles, but after running from multiple source it dropped down to 32.

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                          • muldjordM
                            muldjord @StephanePare
                            last edited by muldjord

                            @StephanePare Yeah, it's a well-known problem. The thing is this: If I do it one way, it won't work with X scraping module (Because it has the name as 'Punisher, The') and if I do it the other way it won't work with Y scraping module (Because it has it as 'The Punisher').

                            If any of you guys have ideas for how to better handle "The" let me know. I was thinking that perhaps I could just leave out "The" altogether if it exists at the beginning or the end of a name (and of course add it back in later). Not sure if that would cause other problems though. I've kindof reached a place where the puzzle is so complete, that changing things one place, will screw with things in other places, so it's a bit of a fidgety thing to get improvements in there now, that won't make other matches get worse... Makes sense?

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                            • RionR
                              Rion @StephanePare
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                              @stephanepare May i ask why you are using Good tools collections? Go with No-Intro sets instead.

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                                StephanePare @Rion
                                last edited by

                                @rion it's the first time I ever hear of any other set than GOODtools, I've always assumed them to be the only standard and that it didn't change. I'll google my way into that "no intro" thing

                                @muldjord I've always thought that was how some scraper worked, but I'm obviously no coder.

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                                • HurricaneFanH
                                  HurricaneFan @StephanePare
                                  last edited by

                                  @stephanepare My understanding is there are no-intro sets for the following systems. Not all of these work in RetroPie though:

                                  Atari - 5200
                                  Atari - 7800
                                  Atari - Jaguar
                                  Atari - Lynx
                                  Atari - ST
                                  Bandai - WonderSwan Color
                                  Bandai - WonderSwan
                                  Casio - Loopy
                                  Casio - PV-1000
                                  Coleco - ColecoVision
                                  Commodore - 64 (PP)
                                  Commodore - 64 (Tapes)
                                  Commodore - 64
                                  Commodore - Amiga
                                  Commodore - Plus-4
                                  Commodore - VIC-20
                                  Emerson - Arcadia 2001
                                  Entex - Adventure Vision
                                  Epoch - Super Cassette Vision
                                  Fairchild - Channel F
                                  Funtech - Super Acan
                                  GamePark - GP32
                                  GCE - Vectrex
                                  Hartung - Game Master
                                  Leapfrog - Leapster Learning Game System
                                  Magnavox - Odyssey2
                                  Microsoft - MSX 2
                                  Microsoft - MSX
                                  NEC - PC Engine - TurboGrafx 16
                                  NEC - Super Grafx
                                  Nintendo - Famicom Disk System
                                  Nintendo - Game Boy Advance (e-Cards)
                                  Nintendo - Game Boy Advance
                                  Nintendo - Game Boy Color
                                  Nintendo - Game Boy
                                  Nintendo - Nintendo 64
                                  Nintendo - Nintendo 64DD
                                  Nintendo - Nintendo Entertainment System
                                  Nintendo - Pokemon Mini
                                  Nintendo - Satellaview
                                  Nintendo - Sufami Turbo
                                  Nintendo - Super Nintendo Entertainment System
                                  Nintendo - Virtual Boy
                                  Nokia - N-Gage
                                  Philips - Videopac+
                                  RCA - Studio II
                                  Sega - 32X
                                  Sega - Game Gear
                                  Sega - Master System - Mark III
                                  Sega - Mega Drive - Genesis
                                  Sega - PICO
                                  Sega - SG-1000
                                  Sinclair - ZX Spectrum +3
                                  SNK - Neo Geo Pocket Color
                                  SNK - Neo Geo Pocket
                                  Tiger - Game.com
                                  VTech - CreatiVision
                                  VTech - V.Smile
                                  Watara - Supervision

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                                  • RionR
                                    Rion @StephanePare
                                    last edited by Rion

                                    @stephanepare Goodtools are absolite. It's best to go with No-Intro instead.

                                    Google is your friend here if you are not part of a larger community cough private trackers cough

                                    Just search for "No-Intro 2017"

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                                    • muldjordM
                                      muldjord
                                      last edited by

                                      I got my hands on an EmuMovies / gamesdbase API key now (Are they the same? It's a bit confusing). Spend a bit of time checking things out from their demo vb project, and I think I get the gist of the implementation. I will write my own implementation of it and it will then be added to Skyscraper as a scraping module.

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                                        LocVez @muldjord
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                                        @muldjord Fantastic, looking forward to this :)

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                                          LocVez
                                          last edited by

                                          @muldjord - Would it be possible to redirect the localdb folder from [homefolder]/.skyscraper/ to [install folder]/.skyscraper/ ? I have copied the install files to usb hdd as I left Skyscraper running, scripted to scrape my entire collection over the last 3 or 4 days and I came back to it today and realised the SD card was ful (64gb card) So i'm trying to transfer everything voer to my 1Tb hdd.

                                          I had a weird error where emulationstation was crashing on boot but I think it was to do with a full card, i'm going to have to try copy contents to usb hdd and see how it goes :)

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                                          • muldjordM
                                            muldjord @LocVez
                                            last edited by muldjord

                                            @LocVez Yes, just use '-d [dbs folder]'. Check the readme :) Just remember that using '-d' points to the platform dbs folder you are gonna be scraping with localdb. So, for instance, if you wanted to scrape 'nes' with a custom local nes db path, you would put in '-d [whatever]/.skyscraper/dbs/nes'.

                                            EDIT: To elaborate: You can't change the Skyscraper folder, but if you want it to be seamless, you can always just create a symbolic link from ~/.skyscraper to wherever your usb hdd is mounted. Or, simply mount your usb hdd at ~/.skyscraper. :)

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